Current Year 12 Thread Mark V

History ... I don't understand analysis too well for some reason

What is your coursework about?

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About as much of a link as there probably is between religion and violence.

On the second of the two courses in History I'm doing I'm having issues too, I need to put more energy into it. What's the analysis an analysis of?

A comparison of Wilde's A Woman of No Importance and Ibsen's A Doll's House. I love them both for different reasons.

I was joking, I think john got the joke.
I know you were trying to disagree with my point, but you actually supported it because as you might know, there's a lot of violence in the world because of religion.

It's just essays in general. I'm doing one on how Germany was the main cause of war in 1939.

Ohhh we're doing A Doll's House later

Look up the Stanford Prison Experiment, or Milgram and you begin to see horrible deeds and violence can easily be done without it...it's a matter of producing an us and them mentality, leading them slowly step by step and having them obey anyone who has some form of unquestioned social power.

Ouch, that's a bit one sided, but interesting.

Ibsen's great, a very interesting playwright, certainly innovative for the time. Very challenging for the 19th century too.

discussion

psychology

Have you any books I can read to increase my knowledge of it?

No it isn't. I paraphrased it poorly. It's "to what extent was Germany the cause of the outbreak of war in 1939" or something like that

Haven't had one for some time.

Agreed.

Of psychology as a whole? Or the work of Zimbardo and Milgram?

Oh, my mistake.

Anything you think i'd find interesting (even though you don't know me that well ) something you find interesting then

It was my mistake don't worry

Personally I have a thing for the whole consciousness issue, whether human nature really is as terrible as Freud, Nietzsche and others all say and linguistics. I can't remember what you said on the consciousness issue and the mind-body problem..Damn I love how Philo and Psych over-lap sometimes.

Social Psychology I'm probably no more knowledgeable than you.

Ah I like consciousness, anything specifically on that?

Do you think the 'mind' exists? Here's something that does well to start thwarting the mind issue. This is quite interesting

It's such a big question and I still know so little, and even anyone who knows anything about this matter will know relatively little.

Turing, Nagel, Dennett. They've all done essays and books on consciousness. Dennett wrote an interesting book called Consciousness Explained which is decent - except for the fact how he tried to drag down Descartes by pointing at the soul being connected to the body through the pinneal gland alone - I enjoyed reading it a lot.

Yes I think the mind exists, what the mind is and how it's made up is another story.

I was going to read consciousness explained but I never got round to doing so.

I'm lead to believe that it's material, yet consciousness is one of the greatest things about humans, and it's rather wonderful it's still a big mystery.

I know what you mean, there's so much to read and so little time.

Mind = brain to you?

What interests me is how abstract thoughts can affect emotion or become related/linked to them in such a way. Especially since when thoughts aren't material by nature even if they're the product of cognitive function.

In two different aspects. The words shouldn't be used interchangeably but it's the physical brain that controls us. I also think that language plays an important part on whether we have a mind or not.

Is it solvable?

I don't know, I think we have concepts before we fully articulate them to one another with language, but I have thought that some union of the senses and anything we use to experience the outer world is key.

I either. That's what makes it all the more exciting.

A discussion.

Human nature is the problem. Not religion. I think it's incredibly naive (whilst being an atheist myself) to say that religion is the source of a lot of violence. In my eyes it's an expression of something else that's wrong with humanity, or anyone who goes so far as to commit violence. I can't deny religion is a tool, because religion is one of many tools. It's just there're going to be a combination of other factors much greater than just religion that contribute to violence.

Look up the Stanford Prison Experiment, or Milgram and you begin to see horrible deeds and violence can easily be done without it...it's a matter of producing an us and them mentality, leading them slowly step by step and having them obey anyone who has some form of unquestioned social power.
Ouch, that's a bit one sided, but interesting.

Ibsen's great, a very interesting playwright, certainly innovative for the time. Very challenging for the 19th century too.

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