David Cameron: "The time has come for gay couples to marry"

[INDENT] Concerning mental health and homosexuality, studies have long indicated that homosexuals have a substantially greater risk of suffering from a psychiatric problems (suicide, depression, bulimia, antisocial personality disorder, and substance abuse).[1][/INDENT]

[INDENT] For example, a national survey of female homosexuals was published in the Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology which found that 75 percent of the approximate 2,000 respondents had pursued psychological counseling of some type, many for treatment of long-term depression or sadness.[2]
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None of that supports your argument unless you think that by not coming out gay people cease to be gay.

depression can and is passed on by genes god you know nothing you. well you are a muslim, what would you know about science?

Ok, that logic does not follow. If gays hide their sexuality, they're far better off than if they "came out" with it.

It takes a simple bit of "knowledge" for you to see someone in a completely different light.

Anyways, regarding depression;


[INDENT] Concerning mental health and homosexuality, studies have long indicated that homosexuals have a substantially greater risk of suffering from a psychiatric problems (suicide, depression, bulimia, antisocial personality disorder, and substance abuse).[1][/INDENT]


The report continues, citing more references -


[INDENT] For example, a national survey of female homosexuals was published in the Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology which found that 75 percent of the approximate 2,000 respondents had pursued psychological counseling of some type, many for treatment of long-term depression or sadness.[2]
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And we further find the effects of "comming out" -


[INDENT]A new study in the United Kingdom has revealed that homosexuals are about 50% more likely to suffer from depression and engage in substance abuse than the rest of the population, reports Health24.com.

After analyzing 25 earlier studies on sexual orientation and mental health, researchers, in a study published in the medical journal BMC Psychiatry, also found that the risk of suicide jumped over 200% if an individual had engaged in a homosexual lifestyle. [3]


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I would also recommend reading this Guardian article; http://www.guardian.co.uk/theobserver/2010/aug/22/gay-attitude-depression-isolation

Now imo, the reason for higher depression is due to homophobia (though I could be wrong), but that's what I believe, as I don't think depression can be passed on genetically.

So as you can hopefully see, my comments were not "baseless" as many seem to presume. It's unfortunately a fear factor for many of being labeled a homophobic or "backward", that desists them from looking at it from a bigger picture.

In reality, you're merely speaking in favour and care (and it may not seem like that, but objectively speaking it is); the marriage rights, which will increase homosexuals "comming out" will inevitably lead to more depression and suicides. At least that's what I can conclude from the evidences. I'm in favour of homosexuals keeping their sexuality a secret and a "don't tell, don't ask" system being implemented.

It's for the best.

The website also says this:

'According to Kevin Berrill, Director of the Anti-Violence Project of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force at the time of the report's release stated, "The increased risk of suicide facing these youth is linked to growing up in a society that teaches them to hide and to hate themselves. We welcome this report and hope it will lead to action that will save lives."'


Ditto the first thing I quoted.


Overwhelmingly biased source, seen from just looking around the page for about 2 seconds. Found these:

' Drs. Paul and Kirk Cameron [Kirk Cameron is an ex-actor and well-known Christian creationist and evangelist] of the Family Research Institute revealed in 2007 that research shows that the lifespan of a homosexual is on average 24 years shorter than that of a heterosexual.'

'Dr. Rick Fitzgibbons, a psychiatrist and member of the Catholic Medical Association'

'Fitzgibbons said the American Psychological Association, which is known for its support of homosexual "marriage," [why is the word 'marriage' in quotation marks...?]'

Really. Your argument is shockingly terrible. I'm almost in disbelief.

It doesn't matter what you think about it, it is an inequality between the two.
Also the fact that one is called marriage and one is called civil partnership, that's an inequality too.

Do you think that only gay people can get HIV? Oh dear, you should possibly report your teachers for giving you such a *******s education. Bless.

You have no idea why my username is 'playa'...it certainly isn't because i think of myself as one who 'plays' women. But perhaps you should get a cock to your arse...looks like as if you have been starved of one.

Right, let's miss ignore it. I do not think 60 years ago, when Homosexuals kept their sexuality a secret, did we find many cases of either depression or suicide, like we see it today.

I do not think 60 years ago, when Homosexuals kept their sexuality a secret, did we find many cases of either depression or suicide, like we see it today.

Sorry, I didn't mean to be so harsh. Im simply a bit tired of my sexuality being compared to things like incest and pedophilia. Its incredibly tiring.

I don't think you understood my argument. I never said anything about a person being gay, that's what they are, some can't help it.

I am merely talking about "comming out" and showing a public display of your sexuality. I believe (based on the evidences) that it leads to greater homophobia which in turn leads to more depression and suicides.

For you to completely dismiss the above premises is simply turning a blind eye against an honest reality.

Right, let's miss ignore it. I do not think 60 years ago, when Homosexuals kept their sexuality a secret, did we find many cases of either depression or suicide, like we see it today.

contradiction quote

You should really take up the art of reading.

Stop degrading the word equality in this context. And you have also just expressed an opinion...it doesn't matter what you think. I have stated why the two don't deserve the same title, whereas you have not

I am honestly appealing to you to use some small degree of logic here.
How could they possibly have known how many gay people killed themselves when it was illegal to be homosexual? How likely is it that they told people they were gay? How likely is it that those statistics were even compiled?

Ahhhh, that old chestnut. You homophobic types are absolutely fascinated by anal sex. Ever tried it? You should post an anonymous thread sometime if you're so interested, I'm sure there are plenty of us around here who can give you advice given that you seem so curious.

How am I degrading the word equality? Equality means 'the state of being equal'.
A different name is not equal. The thing about the titles being present in one but not the other is not equal.

I concur. They are pretty much the Hamza Tzortis of TSR.