The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread

Maths exam discussion - share revision tips in preparation for GCSE, A Level and other maths exams and discuss how they went afterwards.

Announcements Posted on
TSR launches Learn Together! - Our new subscription to help improve your learning 16-05-2013
IMPORTANT: You must wait until midnight (morning exams)/4.30AM (afternoon exams) to discuss Edexcel exams and until 1pm/6pm the following day for STEP and IB exams. Please read before posting, including for rules for practical and oral exams. 28-04-2013
Sign in to Reply
  1. grazie's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Posts: 307
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    (Original post by mld)
    I agree, Integration is doing in my head!!!

    Supposedly we finished the course today, now it's revision - or rather in my case learning it all from scratch.

    C4
    Maybe you should take some of your own advice? Have you never read "The Power of Positive Thinking"? I haven't, but everything you need is in the title!
  2. mld's Avatar
    • Full Member
    • Posts: 123
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    (Original post by grazie)
    Maybe you should take some of your own advice? Have you never read "The Power of Positive Thinking"? I haven't, but everything you need is in the title!
    Thanks grazie. Good idea. I've still got time to do all the work.
  3. Dan4444's Avatar
    • Full Member
    • Posts: 87
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    Does anyone have a link to the solomon papers?
  4. This Honest's Avatar
    • TSR Demigod
    • Location: London | Posts: -1 | Position: TSR babe
    • Warning points: 10
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    4 weeks or so to the exam!
    My penultimate exam.

    Does anyone have any tips to do rate of change and vectors questions?
  5. jlnbello's Avatar
    • Full Member
    • Posts: 97
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    Hey can someone pls show me what the grade boundaries are for 70 Ums and 80 Ums. thanks
  6. chickpe's Avatar
    • New Member
    • Posts: 7
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    The diagram shows the curve C with parametric equations
    x=asin2t, y=acost, 0 ≤ t ≤ 1/2pi

    where a is a positive constant. The point P lies on C and has coordinates (3/4a, 1/2a)

    (a) Find dy/dx, giving your answer in terms of t.

    (b) Find an equation of the tangent to C at P.

    (c) Show that a cartesian equation of C is y2=a2−ax.


    The shaded region is bounded by C, the tangent at P and the x-axis. This shaded region is rotated through 2π radians about the x-axis to form a solid of revolution.

    (d) Use calculus to calculate the volume of the solid revolution formed, giving your answer in the form kπa3, where k is an exact fraction


    i got a, b and c but d is death
    can anyone help me out?
  7. grazie's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Posts: 307
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    (Original post by chickpe)
    The diagram shows the curve C with parametric equations
    x=asin2t, y=acost, 0 ≤ t ≤ 1/2pi

    where a is a positive constant. The point P lies on C and has coordinates (3/4a, 1/2a)

    (a) Find dy/dx, giving your answer in terms of t.

    (b) Find an equation of the tangent to C at P.

    (c) Show that a cartesian equation of C is y2=a2−ax.


    The shaded region is bounded by C, the tangent at P and the x-axis. This shaded region is rotated through 2π radians about the x-axis to form a solid of revolution.

    (d) Use calculus to calculate the volume of the solid revolution formed, giving your answer in the form kπa3, where k is an exact fraction


    i got a, b and c but d is death
    can anyone help me out?
    Not sure why you're struggling as you've worked out most of what you need earlier in the question. Do you remember how to calculate volumes of revolution?

    V = \pi \displaystyle\int y^2 dx

    Work out the limits and you're sorted. BTW, what's the source of the question? It's helpeful for those following the thread.
  8. grazie's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Posts: 307
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    (Original post by Dan4444)
    Does anyone have a link to the solomon papers?
    http://www.sci2.co.uk/maths.html. Enjoy

    BTW, some of the Edexcel question papers on this site are not the final versions and there are a few errors (which would have been there when set!!!). Get the latest versions from the Edexcel website.
    Last edited by grazie; 26-05-2012 at 19:13. Reason: Inportant info
  9. sukhys's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Posts: 398
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    guys i dont understand why, for the answer to question 3c on exercise 6c (integration). is -1/8cos(8x) + 1/2cos(2x) + c

    why is it positive 2x and not -2x.
  10. NutterFrutter's Avatar
    • Banned
    • Posts: 4,632
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    (Original post by sukhys)
    guys i dont understand why, for the answer to question 3c on exercise 6c (integration). is -1/8cos(8x) + 1/2cos(2x) + c

    why is it positive 2x and not -2x.
    Look at example c on the page before. Remember sin integrates to -cos.
  11. sukhys's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Posts: 398
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    (Original post by NutterFrutter)
    Look at example c on the page before. Remember sin integrates to -cos.
    i understand that sin integrates to -cos. i dont understand the formulae for difference of sines or cosines which is

    2sinAcosB = sin(A+B) + sin(A-B)

    A=3x
    B=5x

    sub them in

    2sin3xcos5x = sin(3x+5x) + sin(3x-5x)
    2sin3xcos5x = sin8x + sin(-2x)
    they got 2x not -2x WHY
  12. Venomilys's Avatar
    • Overlord in Training
    • Posts: 2,305
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    C3 is ****ing easy. Did a past paper after 4 months of no work and got 74/75, I lost one mark on a silly mistake when transforming graphs. :teehee:

    C4 is alright also, I scored 73/75 in my class mock like a don, barely revised too... probably going to do a C4 past paper today, aiming for 100 percent. Wish me luck people!

    :gangster:
  13. Venomilys's Avatar
    • Overlord in Training
    • Posts: 2,305
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    (Original post by sukhys)
    2sin3xcos5x = sin(3x+5x) + sin(3x-5x)
    2sin3xcos5x = sin8x + sin(-2x)
    they got 2x not -2x WHY
    Brother, think carefuly! If I hinted as to why I would just give it away. If you can't spot it now, I recommend coming back to the problem tomorrow. That's the most effective way you'll learn, 'self-induced' learning so to speak. :yes:
  14. NutterFrutter's Avatar
    • Banned
    • Posts: 4,632
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    (Original post by sukhys)
    i understand that sin integrates to -cos. i dont understand the formulae for difference of sines or cosines which is

    2sinAcosB = sin(A+B) + sin(A-B)

    A=3x
    B=5x

    sub them in

    2sin3xcos5x = sin(3x+5x) + sin(3x-5x)
    2sin3xcos5x = sin8x + sin(-2x)
    they got 2x not -2x WHY
    sin(-x) = -sinx

    possibly?
  15. sukhys's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Posts: 398
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    (Original post by Ilyas)
    Brother, think carefuly! If I hinted as to why I would just give it away. If you can't spot it now, I recommend coming back to the problem tomorrow. That's the most effective way you'll learn, 'self-induced' learning so to speak. :yes:
    bro, i have no idea why its positive please give me a hint. the only thing i can think of is u cant have a negative angle?
  16. KamilS's Avatar
    • Junior Member
    • Posts: 34
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    How does it work to get an A*? I heard that you only need an A overall for EVERY module for maths apart from C3 and C4 where you need 180 UMS across the two for an A*. Is this true?
  17. F1Addict's Avatar
    • Peer Of The TSR Realm
    • Posts: 1,733
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    (Original post by sukhys)
    i understand that sin integrates to -cos. i dont understand the formulae for difference of sines or cosines which is

    2sinAcosB = sin(A+B) + sin(A-B)

    A=3x
    B=5x

    sub them in

    2sin3xcos5x = sin(3x+5x) + sin(3x-5x)
    2sin3xcos5x = sin8x + sin(-2x)
    they got 2x not -2x WHY
    Don't know the full question, but I suspect there's a double negative somewhere in the question. sin(-2x)=-sin(2x) so with the double negative you'd have -(-sin(2x)) = sin(2x).

    Just a shot in the dark.

    __________________

    (Original post by sukhys)
    the only thing i can think of is u cant have a negative angle?
    You can. Angles are sort of like vectors (difference is that angles are restricted to one axial direction, vectors are not). They indicate how far in a certain direction to go, so if it was negative, you'd just go the other way.
    Last edited by F1Addict; 26-05-2012 at 18:56.
  18. sukhys's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Posts: 398
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    (Original post by NutterFrutter)
    sin(-x) = -sinx

    possibly?
    yh your right, thanks
  19. sukhys's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Posts: 398
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    (Original post by KamilS)
    How does it work to get an A*? I heard that you only need an A overall for EVERY module for maths apart from C3 and C4 where you need 180 UMS across the two for an A*. Is this true?
    no, you need 480 ums and of those 480 ums, 180 MUST come from c3 and c4.
  20. sukhys's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Posts: 398
    Re: The Edexcel C4 (21/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
    can anyone confirm that the answer to question 2a on exercise 6D is wrong in the back of the book and the CD solution bank.
    and also question 2d answer is wrong in the book and CD solution bank. if these are NOT wrong can some1 please explain how they got that answer.
    Last edited by sukhys; 26-05-2012 at 22:56.
Sign in to Reply
Share this discussion:  
Article updates
Moderators

We have a brilliant team of more than 60 volunteers looking after discussions on The Student Room, helping to make it a fun, safe and useful place to hang out.

Reputation gems:
The Reputation gems seen here indicate how well reputed the user is, red gem indicate negative reputation and green indicates a good rep.
Post rating score:
These scores show if a post has been positively or negatively rated by our members.