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Reply 380
Original post by Youknowmyname.
Should I even bother applying with AAAB? I'm not sure about average UMS percentages, but I don't think it's very high. Anyone?


What course and what subjects? You average your best three for humanities and relevant three for sciences. If it comes out under 85% your chances are very low unless you have special circumstances.
Reply 381
Hey everyone,

How much of I chance do you reckon I have? I am applying for biological natural sciences, with an aim to specialise in chemistry (I am applying for chemistry everywhere else...) Here are my AS percentages...

Chemistry - 84%
Biology - 89/90%
Geography - 94%
Maths - 96%

I reckon I'll be predicted A*AA or A*A*A...

I also play Violin to grade 7 (merit) and I am doing grade 8 in November. I have around 30-40 hours of volunteering experience in the charity Scope, and went to spend a couple of days with a neuroscience specialist as work experience.

Would my application be significantly boosted by doing a new AS subject next year? I am dropping geography, but I am tempted to replace it with AS physics or further maths...

Thanks!!!
Original post by Colmans
What course and what subjects? You average your best three for humanities and relevant three for sciences. If it comes out under 85% your chances are very low unless you have special circumstances.


Well I was planning on applying for medicine, and my 3 A grades were in Biology, Chemistry and Maths, and my B was in English Literature, although I was only a few UMS off an A for that, so I'm going to apply for a re-mark.
I got all As in my AS,

Physics = 90%
Maths = 87%
Chem = 80%
Computing = 80%

Average = 84.25

This is pretty low right...

I wanna do Engineering.

Any realistic chance?
Reply 384
Original post by moogoomonkey
I got all As in my AS,

Physics = 90%
Maths = 87%
Chem = 80%
Computing = 80%

Average = 84.25

This is pretty low right...

I wanna do Engineering.

Any realistic chance?


http://www.study.cam.ac.uk/undergraduate/teachers/presentations/teachersforum2010.pdf
If you look at this chart in 2010 precisely one person got in for engineering with average UMS below 85% although almost a third of applicants came into this category.
The chart shows % just for M & Physics which would make you 85%
(edited 11 years ago)
Hi guys,

I am looking to apply for economics at Cambridge, here are my grades:
A* in A level Maths (C1-97, C2-96, C3-100, C4-95, FP1-97, M1-93, D1-84)
A in AS level Geography
B in AS level Economics (It was a very low B think it was 71 average)

Any realistic chance of getting into Cambridge with these grades? I am planning on retaking both economics modules in January. I am taking Further Maths A level this year and will probably get an A
Reply 386
Original post by Vividness
Hi guys,

I am looking to apply for economics at Cambridge, here are my grades:
A* in A level Maths (C1-97, C2-96, C3-100, C4-95, FP1-97, M1-93, D1-84)
A in AS level Geography
B in AS level Economics (It was a very low B think it was 71 average)

Any realistic chance of getting into Cambridge with these grades? I am planning on retaking both economics modules in January. I am taking Further Maths A level this year and will probably get an A


What is your average AS (maths counts as 94%)?

If it is much below 90% your chances for Economics are slim. The B is not going to help.
Hey y'all,

A friend of mine is considering applying for Medicine, but she seems quite pessimistic about her chances, so I'd like a second opinion 'cause I definitely believe she's smart enough.

GCSE: 9A* 3A

AS:
Maths - 96%
Welsh - 94%
Biology - 91%
Chemistry - 89%

She also has an A* in A-Level French. Do you think it's worth an application for her?

Also, one last thing: Considering that my UMS marks in Physics and Maths are very high (98% average) and that I'm really not keen on doing a PAT at Oxford, would you think that I'd be better off applying for Cambridge's NatSci course as opposed to Physics at Oxford, when I have no Chemistry/Biology qualifications? I'll be doing Further Maths next year as well, if that helps.

Cheers
Original post by wrexhamfc


Also, one last thing: Considering that my UMS marks in Physics and Maths are very high (98% average) and that I'm really not keen on doing a PAT at Oxford, would you think that I'd be better off applying for Cambridge's NatSci course as opposed to Physics at Oxford, when I have no Chemistry/Biology qualifications? I'll be doing Further Maths next year as well, if that helps.

Cheers


You would at the very least have a decent chance of getting in for natsci. However it is worth noting that you would have pretty limited choices in the first year (I would read highly desirable as you pretty much need it). If you feel like you could do STEP you could consider applying for maths with physics with the intention of changing to physics in the second year. This is a big risk as only a very small number of people feel confident of getting the step grades they need, (and a lot of very good mathematicians miss their offer) but they tend to be more lenient with mw/physics applicants who intend to switch


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(edited 11 years ago)
Original post by wrexhamfc
Hey y'all,

A friend of mine is considering applying for Medicine, but she seems quite pessimistic about her chances, so I'd like a second opinion 'cause I definitely believe she's smart enough.

GCSE: 9A* 3A

AS:
Maths - 96%
Welsh - 94%
Biology - 91%
Chemistry - 89%

She also has an A* in A-Level French. Do you think it's worth an application for her?

Also, one last thing: Considering that my UMS marks in Physics and Maths are very high (98% average) and that I'm really not keen on doing a PAT at Oxford, would you think that I'd be better off applying for Cambridge's NatSci course as opposed to Physics at Oxford, when I have no Chemistry/Biology qualifications? I'll be doing Further Maths next year as well, if that helps.

Cheers
She will get an interview with those grades. From there it's up to her.

The same goes for you. The average UMS of applicants does tend to be higher for Maths and Science applicants, so 98% isn't that unusual at all in NatSci. Your UMS puts you in a good position, but most of the decision will be down to the interview. I may be a bit wary of applying for NatSci without Chemistry (do you have chemistry?) Because a lot of applicants will have chemistry; and chemistry is required for so many first year options.

The average PAT score is surprisingly low though (average is like 48/100, normally interview boundary is around 70), and if you're top ~40% then you'll get an interview. The Oxford admissions proceedure is pretty much PAT + interview alone. The Cambridge admissions is perhaps more broad in some ways, but in the end I think they are more similar than they are different. I recommend picking the course that you'd rather do.
Original post by A Light Lilt


(average is like 48/100, normally interview boundary is around 70)


The average offer holder actually gets around 70. And his UMS is better than mine :tongue:


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Original post by TheMagicMan
You would at the very least have a decent chance of getting in for natsci. However it is worth noting that you would have pretty limited choices in the first year (I would read highly desirable as you pretty much need it). If you feel like you could do STEP you could consider applying for maths with physics with the intention of changing to physics in the second year. This is a big risk as only a very small number of people feel confident of getting the step grades they need, (and a lot of very good mathematicians miss their offer) but they tend to be more lenient with mw/physics applicants who intend to switch


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Thanks :smile:

Would I be able to cope with first year NatSci without Chemistry qualifications? Do lectures for, say, Earth Sciences/Materials Sciences accommodate for students like myself? The Maths w/ Physics route isn't one I'm intending to go down though really; I have no confidence in my mathematical skills for some reason, so the STEP would probably kill me even more severely than Oxford's PAT. Also also, would low marks in my other two AS subjects (French and History - 87% and 82% respectively, albeit I'm dropping History and my French mark underwhelmed me) inhibit my chances of admission?
Original post by wrexhamfc
Thanks :smile:

Would I be able to cope with first year NatSci without Chemistry qualifications? Do lectures for, say, Earth Sciences/Materials Sciences accommodate for students like myself? The Maths w/ Physics route isn't one I'm intending to go down though really; I have no confidence in my mathematical skills for some reason, so the STEP would probably kill me even more severely than Oxford's PAT. Also also, would low marks in my other two AS subjects (French and History - 87% and 82% respectively, albeit I'm dropping History and my French mark underwhelmed me) inhibit my chances of admission?


Whatever chemistry you need to know for things like material and earth sci would be pretty basic and minimal so you could do whatever is needed just before you get there (and you wouldn't be the only one). I don't think they would really care about history and French (although they will consider them) and they won't break your application


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Original post by TheMagicMan
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Why are you always on your iPhone/iPad? Do you not have a computer? :tongue:
Original post by ukdragon37
Why are you always on your iPhone/iPad? Do you not have a computer? :tongue:


How do you know that I'm not just adding that phrase after everything I type? :tongue:

It's more practical and I can type on my iPhone just as quickly


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Original post by A Light Lilt
She will get an interview with those grades. From there it's up to her.

The same goes for you. The average UMS of applicants does tend to be higher for Maths and Science applicants, so 98% isn't that unusual at all in NatSci. Your UMS puts you in a good position, but most of the decision will be down to the interview. I may be a bit wary of applying for NatSci without Chemistry (do you have chemistry?) Because a lot of applicants will have chemistry; and chemistry is required for so many first year options.

The average PAT score is surprisingly low though (average is like 48/100, normally interview boundary is around 70), and if you're top ~40% then you'll get an interview. The Oxford admissions proceedure is pretty much PAT + interview alone. The Cambridge admissions is perhaps more broad in some ways, but in the end I think they are more similar than they are different. I recommend picking the course that you'd rather do.

Thank you :smile:

Have you got a source for those PAT scores? I've read that the average is indeed around 50, but I've also read that ~56 is generally good for an interview. I'm very uneasy about having my application boil down to purely one aptitude test though :redface:

As for her; I'd think that she'll do well at the BMAT and the interview (she is mature and academically very well-rounded). I don't mean to come across as a pest; you've already said she's good for an interview, after all - but considering Cambridge interviews a high percentage of candidates, that doesn't narrow things down hugely. With a better-than-average BMAT and interview, would she be good for an offer, would you think?
Original post by wrexhamfc
Thank you :smile:

Have you got a source for those PAT scores? I've read that the average is indeed around 50, but I've also read that ~56 is generally good for an interview. I'm very uneasy about having my application boil down to purely one aptitude test though :redface:

?


Look at the link below and look at the reports on that page...they contain things like means, who got interviews etc.

http://www2.physics.ox.ac.uk/study-here/undergraduates/physics-aptitude-test-pat/pat-past-papers


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Original post by TheMagicMan
Look at the link below and look at the reports on that page...they contain things like means, who got interviews etc.

http://www2.physics.ox.ac.uk/study-here/undergraduates/physics-aptitude-test-pat/pat-past-papers


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Muchos gracias :smile:
Original post by wrexhamfc
Thank you :smile:

Have you got a source for those PAT scores? I've read that the average is indeed around 50, but I've also read that ~56 is generally good for an interview. I'm very uneasy about having my application boil down to purely one aptitude test though :redface:

As for her; I'd think that she'll do well at the BMAT and the interview (she is mature and academically very well-rounded). I don't mean to come across as a pest; you've already said she's good for an interview, after all - but considering Cambridge interviews a high percentage of candidates, that doesn't narrow things down hugely. With a better-than-average BMAT and interview, would she be good for an offer, would you think?
Yes TheMagicMan is correct. He's also a perfect example of why UMS isn't necessarily the best indicator for these things.

Listen, I seriously think most of the successful Oxford physics applicants would have got in for NatSci and vice-versa. The PAT is pretty similar to most Cambridge interview tests and interview questions. If you got 98% average you obviously know your maths and physics basics pretty well, I don't think the PAT would be impossible for you. And if it is, you'd probably struggle with the similar questions at your Cambridge interview. If you don't want to do the PAT because you don't want your application to come down to one 2 hour (?) exam, then that's fair enough.

Her average (most relevant 3) is 93%. That's good enough. If she gets 4, 7, 7 or similar in BMAT and impresses in interview then she'll get an offer. There will be applicants with better averages than her, there will be applicants with worse averages. But Cambridge will definitely interview and that's about as much as you can deduce at this stage.
Original post by wrexhamfc
Muchos gracias :smile:


De nada


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