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Feminist showing their true colours re lad mags

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I fail to see how this crusade is in anyway feminist. Tesco have agreed to cover them up and only sell them to adults and they are still not happy. A lot of so called feminists are just female supremacists who hate men.
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Original post by Fullofsurprises
What is your justification for having this image prominently displayed in full magazine-sized format to children in supermarkets across the country?



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So ban all magazines with images on the cover that could be construed as being 'sexualized'?

Sure, cover them up if children may have access, fine. But to ban them would be to censor art, I'm not sure if that's the path I want society to take.
Original post by DaveSmith99
I fail to see how this crusade is in anyway feminist. Tesco have agreed to cover them up and only sell them to adults and they are still not happy. A lot of so called feminists are just female supremacists who hate men.


Feminists are just angry women that hate men? You get a new surprise everyday.

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People need to get over themselves, if these woman are being paid good money and are happy to get their tits out in magazines, so what? Some people enjoy reading them so let them. It's in no way detrimental to society. If kids see these front covers of topless women, so what? Women have tits and kids know it, seeing them makes no difference. And I'm sorry but if a young teenage lad looks at the front covers of these magazines he doesn't think, 'ohhh women are objects, I will not respect women now.'. He actually thinks, 'oh look a pair of tits', which is perfectly natural for a male to think. These ****ing nazis do my head in, let people think for themselves.
Original post by Fullofsurprises
What is your justification for having this image prominently displayed in full magazine-sized format to children in supermarkets across the country?
Out of interest what's your justification for not having it displayed? Do terrible things happen to children if they see a woman's torso, or discover that adults are a bit obsessed with sex?
Reply 25
Original post by Fullofsurprises
"Feminazi". This thread actually starts with an example of Godwin's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law), which is unusual - normally the Fuhrer and his cohorts only make an appearance towards the later stages of the thread.

The 'feminazi' insult is now routine and it means "a woman who stands up for herself and other women in public".


:rolleyes:

Just pointing out that they're acting like fascist with their double standard.

And that is not the definition of feminazi.

A feminazi is someone masquerading as a feminist purporting to want equal rights for woman but their aim is to simply to take away all rights from men and any expression of freedom. This definition is apt to many of these so called 'feminist' and in especially this campaign.
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Original post by neutralmilks

I don't think this makes me a "Nazi", to be honest - wanting liberation of my fellow women


You want liberation of your fellow women, but in the process cause all these women to lose thier jobs.
Original post by 419
So by now, we're all fully aware of the feministazis campaign against those salacious lad mags because they're too sexual and cause harm to children despite no evidence for such. This has been their selling point and focus of their campaign, with many repeating that they have no desire to have the magazines banned.

Now, the industry has acquiesced to their desire with plans to only have prudish toned-downed front cover (similar to those seen in many other magazine especially womens' magazine). Not only this, they are also going to place the magazines at the back of the shelf so that their front cover is obscured by other magazine (you know to protect those innocent children from this evil thing), and, for the coup de grace, this magazine will now be sold to 18 year olds or over.

Now you'd think that the feminazis will be happy will the clampdown. Well here's their reaction:

Kat Banyard, founder of UK Feminista, one of two groups behind the Lose the Lad Mags campaign, said that lobbying to have the titles removed from shelves altogether would continue, "because they are deeply harmful. They fuel sexist behaviours which underpin violence against women."

She added: "By continuing to profit from the content of lads' mags, Tesco is still sending out the message that it's acceptable to portray women in this way."

So, can this people stop with their bull**** agenda that this is all about protecting children as, it's rather about the banning of something that they find distasteful.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/02/tesco-lads-mags-covers-more-modest


Total nonsense man. Do these people have nothing better to do with their lives? Out of all the issues in the world, these sad group of individuals focus all their energy on 'lads mags'? I presume magazines like 'Men's Health' will also be pushed to the back of the top shelf too? What a waste of energy.
I do agree that it is a bit ridiculous for them to want to ban 'lad mags', especially as they are normally on higher shelves, whereas magazines like Cosmopolitan are shown on the lower shelves, normally alongside children/teenage magazines.
Original post by MancStudent098
Out of interest what's your justification for not having it displayed? Do terrible things happen to children if they see a woman's torso, or discover that adults are a bit obsessed with sex?


I think you know perfectly well that that image is more than just a torso - it is pornography dressed up as a 'bit of fun'. In adult contexts - fine. In the context of mass market magazines displayed mid-shelf in every outlet in the country - not fine.
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Original post by neutralmilks
"Lad's mags" are completely different to women's magazines which may show a topless man on the cover (much less common than scantily-clad women on men's magazines). Misandry does not exist, much like "reverse racism". Men have not been subject to the degradation, hyper sexualisation and objectification which constantly plagues women today. Men are the dominant sex - we still live in a society which struggles against resistance to be patriarchal.
Moreover, "lad's mags" provide completely unrealistic expectations of women which are unhealthy for both self-esteem of women and the male treatment of women who may not live up to these standards (basically every woman, everywhere). Also I may remind you that it is perfectly legal for men to go topless in public as they are on the covers of few women's magazines - and yet if I went outside topless as a woman I would be arrested for indecent exposure.
I don't think this makes me a "Nazi", to be honest - wanting liberation of my fellow women cannot exactly be equated to the desire for extreme ethnic cleansing and eugenics...


If you want being topless as a woman to be acceptable, why are you trying to cover up breasts on magazine covers as if they're some sexual secret that must be hidden? Surely you should be pleased with female toplessness becoming normalised?

This is inconsistent reasoning!

(typical of an emotionally based argument, a neg and no response)
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Reply 31
Original post by neutralmilks
We continue to live in a society run by men. The elite is controlled by men. Yes, women in the Western world have more influence than before - more women go to university, for instance. However women cannot walk along the street without fear of being embarrassed by unwanted attention and cat calls. Women are molested on public transport. Women cannot go out by themselves after dark for fear of rape. So yes, we do live in a patriarchy - women just want one less thing to be afraid of, and it happens to be public degradation through these magazine covers. A small thing.


Stop with the propaganda. None of what you say is true. Seriously stop it.
Original post by ~ Aquamarine ~
I do agree that it is a bit ridiculous for them to want to ban 'lad mags', especially as they are normally on higher shelves, whereas magazines like Cosmopolitan are shown on the lower shelves, normally alongside children/teenage magazines.


I saw lads mags on mid-shelf positions at eye level or below eye level in a number of supermarkets last week. I was looking out for them, out of curiosity. They are frequently NOT in the top shelves.
Original post by 419
Stop with the propaganda. None of what you say is true. Seriously stop it.


You're in a good position to say what is not true with regards to women's everyday experiences of sexism? Are you perhaps not male? :confused:
Original post by Fullofsurprises
I think you know perfectly well that that image is more than just a torso - it is pornography dressed up as a 'bit of fun'. In adult contexts - fine. In the context of mass market magazines displayed mid-shelf in every outlet in the country - not fine.


That's why tesco have agreed to hide all of the covers and only sell them to adults. Yet this is somehow not good enough for the feminist groups (that you were supporting the other day), who essentially want a ban.
Original post by DaveSmith99
That's why tesco have agreed to hide all of the covers and only sell them to adults. Yet this is somehow not good enough for the feminist groups (that you were supporting the other day), who essentially want a ban.


The problem is that it isn't just about the covers of these magazines - it's about the content. They thrive on a view of women that was already on the way out in the 60s - that women exist as sexual playthings and sexual playthings alone.
Original post by 419
Stop with the propaganda. None of what you say is true. Seriously stop it.


This. Why are woman stilling ranting as if they live in medieval times? Seriously. The main barriers facing woman with regards to this issue are the barriers they impose themselves, I.e. they are victims and everything society does is to inflict pain on them. Pathetic nonsense.

Perhaps the exaggerated propaganda happens in some unique instances - but it's ironic that the people who shout about these few instances as if it's ongoing oppression would be the first to shout "not all Muslims are the same" if someone was narrow-minded enough to believe all Muslims were terrorists.
It's funny how whenever feminists do anything, there's an angry knee jerk reaction from men. Anti-feminist bingo card filling up and we're already only on page 2 of the thread
Original post by Fullofsurprises
I saw lads mags on mid-shelf positions at eye level or below eye level in a number of supermarkets last week. I was looking out for them, out of curiosity. They are frequently NOT in the top shelves.


But surely this is the supermarkets problem and mistake and nothing to do with the 'lad mags', magazine companies like FHM can't be blamed for the supermarkets mistake. They are always on one of the top shelves whenever I go into a supermarket/shop.

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