To all you ladies out there, would you date a muslim?

The father figure is normally the main influence in the household, so having a non Muslim father may influence kids to be non Muslim as well.

Sorry, no I would not. I know that sounds incredibly racist.. But as a catholic, I fear our cultures are too different.

EDIT: someone pointed out Catholicism and Islam are apparently very similar. I suppose it's not just the religion then, rather culture as a whole. I wouldn't be willing to acknowledge many Muslim laws; I wouldn't be willing to convert. I'm also not particularly strict, as far as religious people go, but I don't know what kind of effect this would have. I'm just not very comfortable with the attitudes displayed by pretty much every Muslim man I've encountered regarding women. Albeit, it hasn't been many, but enough for me to be put off.


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I wouldn't because of the culture clash and no I don't know any happy Muslim and white girl couples

having said that, i just googled and there is a muslimdating.com website- so maybe the rules are changing. though this appears to only be open to muslims. seems odd too actually as there are pictures of girls covering their entire face except eyes

I'm just not very comfortable with the attitudes displayed by pretty much every Muslim man I've encountered regarding women. Albeit, it hasn't been many, but enough for me to be put off.


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I'm just not very comfortable with the attitudes displayed by pretty much every Muslim man I've encountered regarding women. Albeit, it hasn't been many, but enough for me to be put off.


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Oh BTW we're not all bad I guess if you go to Bradford some people have some pretty disgusting views... but I can assure you they don't represent us!

The same way that the EDl don't represent the English

I'm sure you're not and that's why I didn't want to generalise. It's just that the limited experience I've had and the views displayed on the media (which of course, I know cannot be completely trusted), have put me off. I'm sure that a lot of you are lovely people, but it appears as though a lot are not. The same could be said for people of all backgrounds though - I suppose you just have to sieve out the nice people .

and this kind of jokes explains why an atheist girl should better keep away from you

how would you like her making fun of your religious opinions ?

in any case, the Quran does not allow for free intermingling of religions in marriage, but lays down a clear rule for Muslim men who are allowed to marry chaste women from the "peoples of the book" (but not atheists, pagans etc)

5:5
And [lawful in marriage are] chaste women from among the believers and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers.

as to Muslim women marrying a non-Muslim, this is an absolute no-no in Islam, mainly on the basis of 60:10

"when the believing women come to you as emigrants, examine them. Allah is most knowing as to their faith. And if you know them to be believers, then do not return them to the disbelievers; they are not lawful [wives] for them, nor are they lawful [husbands] for them".

As I said : two weights, two measures

on the other hand, you disagree with a Muslim female marrying a non-Muslim man

prejudices, anyone ?

while I admire your open-mindedness, I would point out that the mainstream position in Islam is that a Muslim woman cannot legitimately marry a non-Muslim

any sexual contact between them is therefore "zina" (a grave sin)

then, of course, you have the more liberal and "modern" interpretations...

I know a bloke in the hockey team whose family hail from Pakistan (originally). He drinks like a fish, bothers all the girls in the clubs and is a superb bloke. His girlfriend is an awesomely gawjus girl of Britishy origin.

Somehow that description makes me think that he's just having some fun while he still can and in the end will marry a virgin muslim girl.

Think you should spend a bit less time on wikipedia. Zina is not just a sexual act between a muslim woman and a non-muslim man. Zina is any sexual contact between two non-married people, muslim or non-muslim. .

a Muslim woman cannot legitimately marry a non-Muslim

any sexual contact between them is therefore "zina" (a grave sin)

I am genuinely wondering where you get most of your information from because most of it is either incorrect or very stereotypical. You also manipulate statements to suit your own agenda, whatever that may be.

What about a non-practicing white European Muslim such as myself?

really ?

please show my errors and manipulations, or apologise

best

What's the difference between a 'non-practicing white European Muslim' and a 'white European non-muslim'?

Genuinely interested

where exactly did I say that?

it still stands.
convert first, then marry.

I must have confused you with another Muslim, who stated that a Muslim woman cannot marry a non-Muslim man



apologies for that

so, you agree that a Muslim woman should be allowed to legally marry a non-Muslim man ?