King's College London Reputation

Thanks for the links

Is it possible to do all three (law clinic, innocence project and CAB) or will that be too much of a time commitment?

As well as the including of Imperial, the placing of the LSE where it is looks odd. That's a first-tier institution on any metric.

And why include the IoE? Or why include it but not LSHTM or RVC or LBS or RAM or the Courtauld? Again, these are among the very best (in the world) at what they do.

LSE has too limited of a range of disciplines.

Education is a much bigger field and IoE is more known than the other ones. But a case can be made for LBS, even though it can be argued that it's been overshadowed in a way by the LSE.

I increasingly feel that you're only making it up as you go along.

I'm an international student, in Canadian high school right now, considering studying law in the UK. I've been offered a spot at KCL with a 27000 pound scholarship, one of the full Dickson Poon ones (that's over three years, not annually),

I've also been given offers to all the top Canadian business schools. I applied to business in Canada as law is purely a graduate study in North America.

What I'm trying to assess is the strength of KCL's reputation. I'm trying not to be a "reputation whore" but since a foreign law degree is not particularly usefully, a school with prestige is kind of important.

My question is this: just how good is KCL's reputation in the UK? It's held in very good repute in North America. Also, what are some schools in North America that you feel it is comparable to?

In terms of global percevied reputation by top employers, I would say that Toronto and probably McGill would be considered higher than KCL. In terms of North American universities, too many to name. KCL is not part of the so called G5 (Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial, LSE, UCL) which are the only ones that can really compete with the top american universities. Would probably consider KCL equivalent to University of California or John Hopkins. Well below HYPS and also considerably below Brown, Berkeley, Columbia, Chicago etc.

You are bound to get a lot of UK bias on this forum.

I'm an international student, in Canadian high school right now, considering studying law in the UK. I've been offered a spot at KCL with a 27000 pound scholarship, one of the full Dickson Poon ones (that's over three years, not annually),

I've also been given offers to all the top Canadian business schools. I applied to business in Canada as law is purely a graduate study in North America.

What I'm trying to assess is the strength of KCL's reputation. I'm trying not to be a "reputation whore" but since a foreign law degree is not particularly usefully, a school with prestige is kind of important.

My question is this: just how good is KCL's reputation in the UK? It's held in very good repute in North America. Also, what are some schools in North America that you feel it is comparable to?

Don't really think Toronto/McGill > KCL
I'm probably biased because most people in my school applied to Toronto as a safety as an offer is basically guaranteed for internationals who pay 8 times the local fees
That being said, Toronto is always ranked in the Top 20 in the global rankings

I think OP mentioned that he was deciding between Queen's and UBC

Aside from Law, what other courses have an A*AA requirement. I just checked and pretty sure it's none which is fairly astounding..please correct me if I'm mistaken. Warwick/Durham has probably at least 5 or more.

In terms of global percevied reputation by top employers, I would say that Toronto and probably McGill would be considered higher than KCL. In terms of North American universities, too many to name. KCL is not part of the so called G5 (Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial, LSE, UCL) which are the only ones that can really compete with the top american universities. Would probably consider KCL equivalent to University of California or John Hopkins. Well below HYPS and also considerably below Brown, Berkeley, Columbia, Chicago etc.

You are bound to get a lot of UK bias on this forum.

Apart from law, war studies, history, liberal arts, mathematics (or mathematics with philosophy, physics, finance or computer science) all require A*AA, totalling 15 different courses requiring A*AA altogether.

The average grades needed for King's are AAB - AAA. (51 courses requiring AAB and 41 course requiring AAA). There were 5 course only asking for BBB.

This literally only means very little in trying to define how good a uni is but those are the grades strait out of the prospectus so at least I'm not pulling stuff from the air.

http://www.kcl.ac.uk/prospectus/undergraduate/entryrequirements/name/war-studies/alpha/W/header_search/

http://www.kcl.ac.uk/prospectus/undergraduate/entryrequirements/name/history/alpha/H/header_search/

http://www.kcl.ac.uk/prospectus/undergraduate/entryrequirements/name/liberal-arts/alpha/L/header_search/

http://www.kcl.ac.uk/prospectus/undergraduate/entryrequirements/name/mathematics/alpha/M/header_search/

http://www.kcl.ac.uk/prospectus/undergraduate/entryrequirements/name/mathematics-and-philosophy/alpha/M/header_search/

All AAA. Where are you looking? because it's more like 2 course requiring A*AA and not 15. Has the website not been updated?

How charming

The prospectus, I told you were I got my information from.

Well, the internet says one thing. So I guess that clears things up.

You do know Berkeley is part of the University of California system... Furthermore Hopkins is quite highly regarded, especially for the medical field, some of the best doctors in the world are trained and work at Hopkins. In some respects it would not be a stretch to say that Hopkins outstrips some of the some of the unis on your list (in certain fields).

As you know blanket statements are not usually very helpful...

Berkeley and UCLA are two distinct universities.

King's has an excellent medical department as well (John Hopkins is a partner institution), but that's not the point. As my post stated at the beginning, "In terms of global perceived repuation by top employers".

There are specific studies where top global employers were asked to give their opinion on this matter. Is this the be all and end all opinion to take into account? Of course not, it's just another ranking.
Every ranking paints a different picture, but you have to attempt to draw the line somewhere.

Toronto is similair to Bocconi (considered a target uni for IB) where applying as an international you are basically guaranteed an offer. Doesn't take away from the fact that it still enjoys a strong reputation (it's fair to say more postgraduate than undergraduate however). The "natural selection" at those unis usually happens during the 1st year. That's why they have higher drop out rates compared to UK unis.

If those are the OP's choices, then KCL without a doubt. The Dickson Poon scholarship also sits nicely on a CV.

Further to my last post... King's also has a substantial number of North Americans among its student body - I'm not sure whether that makes a difference to you.

See, this is kinda of what I was talking about, people are too focused on "ranking." We all know what the ranking's say, but I take them with a grain of salt. What I'm trying to figure out is what KCL is actually considered prestige wise. As in, is it on the same level as UC Berkeley, as some on this thread suggested? NYU? Brown? To use universities from my home and native land, University of Toronto or McGill or UBC?

I use North American schools because they are the ones I am most familiar with.