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I got the whole psychopath thing too... Re-read.. Defo psycho... lol ( the whole describing people/emotions in a really weird way gave it away) please don't kill me/others... Love reigns
Reply 21
Original post by QwerKiZ
Socialising with mentally unstable people makes you a psychopath? Well then it must mean that everyone with a conscious is psychotic. Also, that's like saying: "Oh well, they're not as good as me so I can't talk to them." Also, drug addicts could be very controversial as many people could have started using in a time of depression and they are struggling to get out of it, and by you avoiding them could even damage them more.


They're drug addicts. They're already damaged. I'm sure 'damaging them even more' would incur their death.

I mean prolonged interaction but I guess it depends WHY you decide to socialize with them rather than a sane minded person.

'Mentally unstable people aren't as good as me.' That's true because they aren't. Get real and Darwin says hi.
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Reply 22
Original post by D.Wright
Yes it is a terrible feeling!

By ugly people I mean people who take drugs or have some kind of mental illness.


I can understand finding some people who take drugs "ugly". Especially addicts who eventually turn into toxic personalities. But I cannot heap all drug users together. In fact, some of the most beautiful (I use this in a non superficial sense) people that have ever graced this planet have taken drugs.

But what I'm struggling to understand is... why do you think people with mental illness are "ugly"?

I really do feel sorry for you fella, about as sorry as I would feel for anyone who is racist or bigoted in general. Ignorance is a terrible, terrible thing.
Reply 23
Original post by D.Wright
They're drug addicts. They're already damaged. I'm sure 'damaging them even more' would incur their death.

I mean prolonged interaction but I guess it depends WHY you decide to socialize with them rather than a sane minded person.

'Mentally unstable people aren't as good as me.' That's true because they aren't. Get real and Darwin says hi.


Darwin would be rolling in his grave over that comment. His whole life was dedicated to explaining and appreciating the variety of life. People who are mentally atypical are part of that variety.

Also, he'd probably have something to say about the fact that you're bashing on people with mental illness while he has a whole hospital named after him that helps people with mental illness.

Bet you feel stupid now, huh?
Reply 24
Original post by S Scott
I can understand finding some people who take drugs "ugly". Especially addicts who eventually turn into toxic personalities. But I cannot heap all drug users together. In fact, some of the most beautiful (I use this in a non superficial sense) people that have ever graced this planet have taken drugs.

But what I'm struggling to understand is... why do you think people with mental illness are "ugly"?

I really do feel sorry for you fella, about as sorry as I would feel for anyone who is racist or bigoted in general. Ignorance is a terrible, terrible thing.


Drugs are designed to filter out the scum in society. Those who take drugs show an immediate lack of self respect for themselves and others as well as ignorance for the adverse effects of them. Drug addicts probably have some kind of mental health problem anyway which could explain why they take them or they could simply be 'scum'.

Mental illness is ok provided I can't see it. Most people with mental illness are ugly anyway. Defects like down syndrome are ugly...
Original post by D.Wright
Drugs are designed to filter out the scum in society. Those who take drugs show an immediate lack of self respect for themselves and others as well as ignorance for the adverse effects of them. Drug addicts probably have some kind of mental health problem anyway which could explain why they take them or they could simply be 'scum'.

Mental illness is ok provided I can't see it. Most people with mental illness are ugly anyway. Defects like down syndrome are ugly...

The most common mental illnesses are depression and anxiety. You can't 'see' them. You sound like a pretty awful person tbh. You massively judge people and know pretty much nothing about them. Your lack of friends isn't really surprising.
Reply 26
Original post by S Scott
Darwin would be rolling in his grave over that comment. His whole life was dedicated to explaining and appreciating the variety of life. People who are mentally atypical are part of that variety.

Also, he'd probably have something to say about the fact that you're bashing on people with mental illness while he has a whole hospital named after him that helps people with mental illness.

Bet you feel stupid now, huh?


Mental illness is a weakness and I think Darwin would agree with this; if he wouldn't, he would be a lunatic
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Reply 27
Original post by NathanW18
The most common mental illnesses are depression and anxiety. You can't 'see' them. You sound like a pretty awful person tbh. You massively judge people and know pretty much nothing about them. Your lack of friends isn't really surprising.


I'd rather be judged by others as attractive without the need to open my mouth than be unattractive and 'make up for my master race trait deficit' with some kind of contrived personality.
Original post by D.Wright
They're drug addicts. They're already damaged. I'm sure 'damaging them even more' would incur their death.

I mean prolonged interaction but I guess it depends WHY you decide to socialize with them rather than a sane minded person.

'Mentally unstable people aren't as good as me.' That's true because they aren't. Get real and Darwin says hi.



Your views towards mental illness are so discriminatory and condescending; you perfectly illustrate how social stigma still exists in this judgmental society today. You said earlier something about being ok with mental illness as long as it wasn't visible. What mental illnesses are visible? Mental illness is more common than you think and most people hide their condition, won't tell anyone about it and will carry on their daily lives as normal due to the strong social stigma towards and because they fear that they will be judged and discriminated against. 1 in 4 people will suffer with a mental illness at some stage in their lives. There are lots of different mental disorders... not just the stereotypical schizophrenic often portrayed as some crazy Hollywood horror film 'psychopath'. The fact that you spend time alone and don't talk to people or socialize face to face probably means that you may have Social Anxiety Disorder - which is a mental illness.

A little advise? Maybe get off your computer, stop basing your stigmatizing and ignorant opinions about mental illness on crap you've read on the internet, stop thinking that you're SO much better than everyone else, and talk to people... then maybe, just maybe, you might make some friends.
Reply 29
Original post by D.Wright
Mental illness is a weakness and I think Darwin would agree with this.


You sir, are a straight up moron who has probably never read/heard of the origin of species. Let me explain this to you simply, Dawin understood the importance of diversity. That means that through millions of years of evolution, mutations have cropped up that produce everything from cystic fibrosis to the colour of your eyes. How are mutations that cause things like a propensity for depression, or for anxiety and cystic fibrosis beneficial you ask? WELL. An example of how a bad mutation can be good is that of Sickle Cell Anaemia. Because of this mutation, the people who possess it cannot get malaria which is probably one of the most deadly diseases worldwide. So there we have it, an illness that has probably saved millions of lives. Who's to say that people with a certain type of mental illness or genetic condition wont be the people who outperform you or outlive you because of how they are? Certainly not you, because you're an ignorant idiot who belongs in UKIP.
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Reply 30
Original post by bumble123
Your views towards mental illness are so discriminatory and condescending; you perfectly illustrate how social stigma still exists in this judgmental society today. You said earlier something about being ok with mental illness as long as it wasn't visible. What mental illnesses are visible? Mental illness is more common than you think and most people hide their condition, won't tell anyone about it and will carry on their daily lives as normal due to the strong social stigma towards and because they fear that they will be judged and discriminated against. 1 in 4 people will suffer with a mental illness at some stage in their lives. There are lots of different mental disorders... not just the stereotypical schizophrenic often portrayed as some crazy Hollywood horror film 'psychopath'. The fact that you spend time alone and don't talk to people or socialize face to face probably means that you may have Social Anxiety Disorder - which is a mental illness.

A little advise? Maybe get off your computer, stop basing your stigmatizing and ignorant opinions about mental illness on crap you've read on the internet, stop thinking that you're SO much better than everyone else, and talk to people... then maybe, just maybe, you might make some friends.


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Original post by D.Wright
I don't believe I've expressed any ideas that are contrary to those expressed by most people. I'm sure the vast majority of people including you would not want to socialize with someone who's a drug addict or/and has obvious mental health problems. If you do, however, then touche, as you clearly are a psychopath.

Which idea offends you so?


This reply is perfect because it almost answers itself! :biggrin:
Unwillingness to socialise with people who has a drug/metal illness, is very...hmm... Unfair and..just wrong. As you can tell I can't fully express how, strange it is to hear (or read) such callus and careless, non-compassion nowadays.
What other bizarre ideas do you have? The only reason why I'm not angry with your opinions btw, is because they're so uncommon....and wrong.


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Reply 33
Original post by S Scott
You sir, are a straight up moron who has probably never read/heard of the origin of species. Let me explain this to you simply, Dawin understood the importance of diversity. That means that through millions of years of evolution, mutations have cropped up that produce everything from cystic fibrosis to the colour of your eyes. How are disadvantages like depression, anxiety and cystic fibrosis beneficial you ask? WELL. An example of how a bad mutation can be good is that of Sickle Cell Anaemia. Because of this mutation, the people who possess it cannot get malaria which is probably one of the most deadly diseases worldwide. So there we have it, an illness that has probably saved millions of lives. Who's to say that people with a certain type of mental illness or genetic condition wont be the people who outperform you or outlive you because of how they are? Certainly not you, because you're an ignorant idiot who belongs in UKIP.


I'm not racist. I'm pro immigration and diversity.

All I know is the phrase 'survival of the fittest'.

I'll assume you're talking about contracting melaria in one human life time rather than a generational progression of immunity? If so, Your examples are ridiculous, as this is a terrible life threatening disease. I'm sure a person who has Sickle Cell Anaemia wouldn't care if it meant them being immune to Malaria because the chance of contracting Malaria is very small. I guess if you lived in places where there are a lot of mosquitoes then you would care about this immunity more than someone living in the UK.

I would rather not have Sickle Cell Anaemia and have the same chance at contracting Malaria than most people because the risk is so small! So it IS a weakness in one human life time but an advantage across many generations which is probably how long it takes to develop the immunity?
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Original post by D.Wright
Mental illness is a weakness and I think Darwin would agree with this; if he wouldn't, he would be a lunatic


I hate to have to agree with Mr.wright here.. But he's kinda correct in that having a mental illness is a weakness, life is more difficult. HOWEVER, our way of living is no longer survival of the fittest in the full sense of the theory. As in, when people are sick in this society, they are taken care of. To try and apply Darwin's theory is ridiculous.


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Reply 35
Original post by D.Wright
I'm not racist. I'm pro immigration and diversity.

All I know is the phrase 'survival of the fittest'.

I'll assume you're talking about contracting melaria in one human life time rather than a generational progression of immunity? If so, Your examples are ridiculous, as this is a terrible life threatening disease. I'm sure a person who has Sickle Cell Anaemia wouldn't care if it meant them being immune to Malaria because the chance of contracting Malaria is very small. I guess if you lived in places where there are a lot of mosquitoes then you would care about this immunity more than someone living in the UK.

I would rather not have Sickle Cell Anaemia and have the same chance at contracting Malaria than most people because the risk is so small! So it IS a weakness in one human life time but an advantage across many generations which is probably how long it takes to develop the immunity?


Your grasp of science is very shaky. You talk about developing an immunity as if it's some kind of poison you're building a tolerance to?

Your ignorance is pretty much on the level with any racist I know. + You're not pro diversity. By the sounds of it you would have a diverse range of people with mental illnesses/genetic conditions locked up or sterilized just so you don't have to look at them. Yep. You're a Nazi.

You're obviously not seeing the bigger picture. It's pretty clear because you went straight to attacking the example and not the underlying concept. Without genetic diversity (good and bad) our species would die. Diversity in all its forms is important. Any number of bad traits could save your life from things which you cannot possibly comprehend without having a magic crystal ball. Which I assume you don't?

Of course not.

I however, do agree with reemaisthinking in a way (not about the part that you agree with D.Wright). Humans have taken control of their own evolution now, for better or for worse. Survival of the fittest is such a crude and outdated term anyway. Since you can't even grasp the Darwinian concept of evolution and diversity, you have no chance in understanding how the concept itself has evolved.

Go back to your cave and never join the rest of society.

I really can't talk any sense into you. So there's little point in me continuing. I'll leave you to stew in your ignorance, alone.
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Original post by S Scott
Go back to your cave and never join the rest of society.

I really can't talk any sense into you. So there's little point in me continuing. I'll leave you to stew in your ignorance, alone.


Eloquent. Nice note to end on.




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Reply 37
Original post by S Scott
Your grasp of science is very shaky. You talk about developing an immunity as if it's some kind of poison you're building a tolerance to?

Your ignorance is pretty much on the level with any racist I know. + You're not pro diversity. By the sounds of it you would have a diverse range of people with mental illnesses/genetic conditions locked up or sterilized just so you don't have to look at them. Yep. You're a Nazi.

You're obviously not seeing the bigger picture. It's pretty clear because you went straight to attacking the example and not the underlying concept. Without genetic diversity (good and bad) our species would die. Diversity in all its forms is important. Any number of bad traits could save your life from things which you cannot possibly comprehend without having a magic crystal ball. Which I assume you don't?

Of course not.

I however, do agree with reemaisthinking in a way (not about the part that you agree with D.Wright). Humans have taken control of their own evolution now, for better or for worse. Survival of the fittest is such a crude and outdated term anyway. Since you can't even grasp the Darwinian concept of evolution and diversity, you have no chance in understanding how the concept itself has evolved.

Go back to your cave and never join the rest of society.

I really can't talk any sense into you. So there's little point in me continuing. I'll leave you to stew in your ignorance, alone.


I was looking at this in individualistic terms. If you're the person with an ailment with more disadvantages than evolutionary advantages, you are weak, as they will impede your body during your life. However from an evolutionary perspective, this is an advantage. But I find the evolutionary perspective detached from the person with the ailment, as it treats them as one link in a chain of immunity progression through generations which doesn't take into account the disadvantages it causes to one person during their life time?

So how is immunity built? If you're so knowledgeable, tell me, so I may rejoin the society you're in?
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What do you do as a job? Do you have any career ambitions? What films do you like?

I ask you the first two questions to get a view on what else you may wish to contribute to the world. Is there a field you are particularly passionate about? The last question is to try and understand your likes and dislikes.

Also about mental illness... some of the most renowned scientists/ artists/ writers in history have suffered from mental illness. And yet, despite your view that they are inferior in some way, they have acheived/ contributed more than most of us ever will.
In fact, a recent scientific book linked creativity with mental illness.

Overall I would suggest you try and see people as people, not as some label of "ugly" or "mentally ill". People, in general, connect and form friendships based on a shared sense of humanity, that overides any superficial differences.

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