Grades To Become A Teacher

What if it's the 30 year olds first sitting. Also a 30 year old will have more to balance work family etc so actually maybe of a higher calibre.

But that person has taken a year longer...

Are you saying someone who achieves an A first time is of the same calibre as someone who achieves the same grade A when they are say 30?

What if it is his second sitting and he got a grade D first time.

What if the student is living by himself working night shifts...etc. We are talking about how good they are at the subject not their life skills...

What if it is his second sitting and he got a grade D first time.

What if the student is living by himself working night shifts...etc. We are talking about how good they are at the subject not their life skills...

So a 9-year-old getting into university is always going to be incredibly smarter than Einstein?

So by having a very good bachelor's degree, I'm always going to be academically superior to Vice-Chancellor Prof Lap-chee Tsui who's now tipped to be a future Nobel Prize winner because he's got a third back then?

So you can be sure that a GCSE taken 16 years ago is more reflective of a person's current ability than a GCSE taken 5 months ago?

What's the point of universities then? What's the point of a-levels then? What's the point of GCSEs then? What's the point of secondary schools then? What's the point even of primary schools then?

Let's just judge everybody academically by the kindergarten they have managed to get into and use that as a reference for their continuing ability in everything even when they are 90.

Then that's a good result for them.

They've shown improvement and have made progress but then consider the level of progress made, in that same time frame, by those people who got it right the first time.

There's nothing terribly wrong about getting a D grade and then resitting the year after to get a B or higher.

Although, inevitably, that sort of person is going to be of a lower standard than a person who got it right the first time. This is because that person is now at the capability that they should have been at one year ago, whereas someone else is now a years worth of learning ahead.

There's also nothing terribly wrong with teachers having a D grade at A-Level teaching the same subject. However, if we want the next generation of students to be coming from the pinnacle of worldwide education systems, there are much, much better candidates to be teachers.

This is coming from people who have never worked post degree. No one cares about your a levels. If u mention them you'd get a strange look. As you should have more to offer

Well this is TSR, what do you expect?

That's true. There must be a few students who work or have a small amount of common sense.

I do need to say there have been employers who asked for my school-leaving certificates though. But then I teach/tutor, and the more important thing is that they never talked about them. I think it's more of a formality. I did have a job that required me to enter my grades but then that's for exam paper marking.

So a 9-year-old getting into university is always going to be incredibly smarter than Einstein?

So by having a very good bachelor's degree, I'm always going to be academically superior to Vice-Chancellor Prof Lap-chee Tsui who's now tipped to be a future Nobel Prize winner because he's got a third back then?

So you can be sure that a GCSE taken 16 years ago is more reflective of a person's current ability than a GCSE taken 5 months ago?

What's the point of universities then? What's the point of a-levels then? What's the point of GCSEs then? What's the point of secondary schools then? What's the point even of primary schools then?

Let's just judge everybody academically by the kindergarten they have managed to get into and use that as a reference for their continuing ability in everything even when they are 90.

It does depend on the situation, but the situation of this very minute, not 7 years ago.

Only that it's nothing to do with 'logic' or 'common sense'. But rather, 'ignorance'.


Subject knowledge is only a part of being a good teacher, and if know anything about education, you would probably know it. This is ignoring also the fact that good teachers can teach with materials provided to them, which can compensate their disadvantages in subject knowledge. Or the fact that two grades in GCSE 6-7 years ago cannot possibly speak of anything realistically.

To quote myself from earlier: "Mediocrity will only inspire mediocrity, you need excellence to inspire excellence". The education system would benefit greatly from a influx of higher attaining individuals rather than the bargain bucket low achieving bunch. The government can't afford to dangle attractive salaries to these individuals but it would be a marvelous idea.


If you think GCSEs are irrelevant, tell me why medicine courses value them so highly? It's because they show excellence in their time-management, dedication and all other attributes in addition to subject knowledge. It shows the admissions staff the qualities innate in the that particular human being.


You can take this example and examine it however you want "Hilary" but there's only one comparison which needs to be made. If good GCSEs imply a person who has the above qualities, what sort of person do you think someone who achieves bad grades have?


A lackluster approach to education which is an inherent characteristic of the individual, which will project onto the students.


Resitting an exam won't change that.

PS: Don't give me crap about extenuating circumstances. Those are far and few between.
PPS: I heard you're a tutor/teacher. Inferiority complex or what?

It's lacklustre, not lackluster. You have also used quotation marks inappropriately. As someone who was previously responsible for senior level recruitment I would have thrown an application out for that kind of literacy. Would you like, therefore, to be judged on these mistakes forever? Oh, and please don't give me any crap about extenuating circumstances.

You had no reply to the above so you decided to point out his spelling mistake...

You have lost this debate. Give up. It's over.

Maybe I should just quit tomorrow due to my lack of innate excellence or whatever crap people have been calling it.