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Thanks JackieS! It's just hard being confident about it when I've already failed once. Anyway, here's some more stuff for everyone.
Movement Task – Put down a box
Describe peripheral joints involved in the task – glenohumeral, elbow joint, wrist joint (inferior radio-ulnar, radiocarpal, carpometacarpal, metacarpophalangeal).
Identify range of movement occurring at these joints
Starting position – glenohumeral joint in neutral, elbow joint flexed 90 degrees, possible extension at inferior radio-ulnar joint, possible radial deviation, possible flexion at carpometacarpal and metacarpophalangeal joints.
Shoulder joint: flexion to place box on plinth, also slight abduction followed by adduction when arms become outstretched.
Isometric, isotonic (concentric, eccentric) and degrees:
Flexion – isotonic concentric (extensors working eccentrically) 10-20 degrees
Abduction – isotonic concentric (adductors working eccentrically) 5-10 degrees
Adduction – isotonic concentric (abductors working eccentrically) 5-10 degrees
Elbow joint: extension to reach box towards plinth.
Isometric, isotonic (concentric, eccentric) and degrees:
Extension – isotonic concentric (flexors working eccentrically) 180 degrees
Wrist joint: inferior radio-ulnar joint flexing back to neutral, and radial deviation occurring as box is placed. Possible flexion of carpometacarpal and metacarpophalangeal.
Isometric, isotonic (concentric, eccentric) and degrees:
Extension of wrist before placing box – isotonic concentric (flexors working eccentrically) 5 degrees, going to neutral.
Radial deviation – isotonic concentric (ulnar deviators working eccentrically) 5 degrees
Flexion of carpometacarpal and metacarpophalangeal – isotonic concentric (extensors working eccentrically) dependent on model.
Describe muscle groups involved in the task
Individual muscles of those groups
Shoulder joint: Flexion – pectoralis major
Abduction – deltoid (supraspinatous initiates)
Adduction – coracobrachialis and pectoralis major
Elbow joint: Extension – triceps brachii
Wrist joint: Extension of wrist – extensor carpi ulnaris and extensor carpi radialis longus
Radial deviation – flexor carpi radialis and extensor carpi radialis longus/brevis
Flexion of carpometacarpal and metacarpophalangeal (including thumb) - flexor digitorum superficialis/profundus, flexor digiti minimi brevis, flexor pollicis longus/brevis
Movement Task – Put down a box
Describe peripheral joints involved in the task – glenohumeral, elbow joint, wrist joint (inferior radio-ulnar, radiocarpal, carpometacarpal, metacarpophalangeal).
Identify range of movement occurring at these joints
Starting position – glenohumeral joint in neutral, elbow joint flexed 90 degrees, possible extension at inferior radio-ulnar joint, possible radial deviation, possible flexion at carpometacarpal and metacarpophalangeal joints.
Shoulder joint: flexion to place box on plinth, also slight abduction followed by adduction when arms become outstretched.
Isometric, isotonic (concentric, eccentric) and degrees:
Flexion – isotonic concentric (extensors working eccentrically) 10-20 degrees
Abduction – isotonic concentric (adductors working eccentrically) 5-10 degrees
Adduction – isotonic concentric (abductors working eccentrically) 5-10 degrees
Elbow joint: extension to reach box towards plinth.
Isometric, isotonic (concentric, eccentric) and degrees:
Extension – isotonic concentric (flexors working eccentrically) 180 degrees
Wrist joint: inferior radio-ulnar joint flexing back to neutral, and radial deviation occurring as box is placed. Possible flexion of carpometacarpal and metacarpophalangeal.
Isometric, isotonic (concentric, eccentric) and degrees:
Extension of wrist before placing box – isotonic concentric (flexors working eccentrically) 5 degrees, going to neutral.
Radial deviation – isotonic concentric (ulnar deviators working eccentrically) 5 degrees
Flexion of carpometacarpal and metacarpophalangeal – isotonic concentric (extensors working eccentrically) dependent on model.
Describe muscle groups involved in the task
Individual muscles of those groups
Shoulder joint: Flexion – pectoralis major
Abduction – deltoid (supraspinatous initiates)
Adduction – coracobrachialis and pectoralis major
Elbow joint: Extension – triceps brachii
Wrist joint: Extension of wrist – extensor carpi ulnaris and extensor carpi radialis longus
Radial deviation – flexor carpi radialis and extensor carpi radialis longus/brevis
Flexion of carpometacarpal and metacarpophalangeal (including thumb) - flexor digitorum superficialis/profundus, flexor digiti minimi brevis, flexor pollicis longus/brevis
Movement Task – Stand to sit
Describe peripheral joints involved in the task – Hip joint, knee joint, ankle and subtalar joint.
Identify range of movement occurring at these joints
Starting position – anatomical position, hips at 180 degrees flexion, knees in full extension (not counting hyper extension), ankle and subtalar joint in 90 degrees plantar flexion.
Hip joint: goes into flexion as trunk is brought forward of centre of gravity, then extends to 90 degrees flexion as they straighten up into a proper sitting position.
Isometric, isotonic (concentric, eccentric) and degrees:
Flexion – isotonic concentric (extensors working eccentrically) beginning at 180 degrees, smoothly moving through to 90 degrees
Knee joint: flexes to adapt to changing centre of gravity, then flexes slightly more just before finishing the sitting movement, ending up at 90 degrees flexion. Also some anterior glide of femur on tibia occurs.
Isometric, isotonic (concentric, eccentric) and degrees:
Flexion – isotonic concentric (extensors working eccentrically) begins at 180 degrees, smoothly moving to 90 degrees
Ankle and subtalar joint: not much movement, dorsiflex a little when centre of gravity changes, then return to 90 degrees dorsiflexion before a sitting position has been obtained.
Isometric, isotonic (concentric, eccentric) and degrees:
Dorsiflexion – isotonic concentric (plantar flexors working eccentrically) 2-3 degrees
Plantar flexion – isotonic concentric (dorsiflexors working eccentrically) 2-3 degrees
Describe muscle groups involved in the task
Individual muscles of those groups
Hip joint: Flexion - iliopsoas
Knee joint: Flexion – biceps femoris
Ankle and subtalar joint: Dorsiflexion – tibialis anterior
Plantar Flexion - gastrocnemius
Describe peripheral joints involved in the task – Hip joint, knee joint, ankle and subtalar joint.
Identify range of movement occurring at these joints
Starting position – anatomical position, hips at 180 degrees flexion, knees in full extension (not counting hyper extension), ankle and subtalar joint in 90 degrees plantar flexion.
Hip joint: goes into flexion as trunk is brought forward of centre of gravity, then extends to 90 degrees flexion as they straighten up into a proper sitting position.
Isometric, isotonic (concentric, eccentric) and degrees:
Flexion – isotonic concentric (extensors working eccentrically) beginning at 180 degrees, smoothly moving through to 90 degrees
Knee joint: flexes to adapt to changing centre of gravity, then flexes slightly more just before finishing the sitting movement, ending up at 90 degrees flexion. Also some anterior glide of femur on tibia occurs.
Isometric, isotonic (concentric, eccentric) and degrees:
Flexion – isotonic concentric (extensors working eccentrically) begins at 180 degrees, smoothly moving to 90 degrees
Ankle and subtalar joint: not much movement, dorsiflex a little when centre of gravity changes, then return to 90 degrees dorsiflexion before a sitting position has been obtained.
Isometric, isotonic (concentric, eccentric) and degrees:
Dorsiflexion – isotonic concentric (plantar flexors working eccentrically) 2-3 degrees
Plantar flexion – isotonic concentric (dorsiflexors working eccentrically) 2-3 degrees
Describe muscle groups involved in the task
Individual muscles of those groups
Hip joint: Flexion - iliopsoas
Knee joint: Flexion – biceps femoris
Ankle and subtalar joint: Dorsiflexion – tibialis anterior
Plantar Flexion - gastrocnemius
Well, the dark day finally has arrived and I start my resit practical in just over 10 hours. At 9.40 to be exact. If everyone can keep all their bits crossed for the following 20 minutes that should help me, I hope!
I've spent all day going over the notes and even when I nipped out to the shop I was practising muscles and their origins and insertions while walking back home.
Hopefully I've got it all straight in my head now and tomorrow will go okay but I am absolutely stressed to bits. And so is my mam. She was dreaming that I was taking the exam and I had to demonstrate the use of a wand and perform some movements with it! Too much Harry Potter, I think! She will be glad it's over all well as she claims to have RSI from lifting a box and putting it down and then lifting a cup and putting that down!
I've got everything ready for in the morning, but I'm scared that I will sleep in. That's assuming that I actually get to sleep in the first place! I have to be out of the house by 7.15 to get to Teesside for 9. I'm modelling first, so that should give me a chance to either calm down a bit or to get more wound up!
Anyway, I'm off to bed now, so just remember to cross everything for me in the morning. Night night.
I've spent all day going over the notes and even when I nipped out to the shop I was practising muscles and their origins and insertions while walking back home.
Hopefully I've got it all straight in my head now and tomorrow will go okay but I am absolutely stressed to bits. And so is my mam. She was dreaming that I was taking the exam and I had to demonstrate the use of a wand and perform some movements with it! Too much Harry Potter, I think! She will be glad it's over all well as she claims to have RSI from lifting a box and putting it down and then lifting a cup and putting that down!
I've got everything ready for in the morning, but I'm scared that I will sleep in. That's assuming that I actually get to sleep in the first place! I have to be out of the house by 7.15 to get to Teesside for 9. I'm modelling first, so that should give me a chance to either calm down a bit or to get more wound up!
Anyway, I'm off to bed now, so just remember to cross everything for me in the morning. Night night.
jinglepupskye
Well, the dark day finally has arrived and I start my resit practical in just over 10 hours. At 9.40 to be exact. If everyone can keep all their bits crossed for the following 20 minutes that should help me, I hope!
I've spent all day going over the notes and even when I nipped out to the shop I was practising muscles and their origins and insertions while walking back home.
Hopefully I've got it all straight in my head now and tomorrow will go okay but I am absolutely stressed to bits. And so is my mam. She was dreaming that I was taking the exam and I had to demonstrate the use of a wand and perform some movements with it! Too much Harry Potter, I think! She will be glad it's over all well as she claims to have RSI from lifting a box and putting it down and then lifting a cup and putting that down!
I've got everything ready for in the morning, but I'm scared that I will sleep in. That's assuming that I actually get to sleep in the first place! I have to be out of the house by 7.15 to get to Teesside for 9. I'm modelling first, so that should give me a chance to either calm down a bit or to get more wound up!
Anyway, I'm off to bed now, so just remember to cross everything for me in the morning. Night night.
I've spent all day going over the notes and even when I nipped out to the shop I was practising muscles and their origins and insertions while walking back home.
Hopefully I've got it all straight in my head now and tomorrow will go okay but I am absolutely stressed to bits. And so is my mam. She was dreaming that I was taking the exam and I had to demonstrate the use of a wand and perform some movements with it! Too much Harry Potter, I think! She will be glad it's over all well as she claims to have RSI from lifting a box and putting it down and then lifting a cup and putting that down!
I've got everything ready for in the morning, but I'm scared that I will sleep in. That's assuming that I actually get to sleep in the first place! I have to be out of the house by 7.15 to get to Teesside for 9. I'm modelling first, so that should give me a chance to either calm down a bit or to get more wound up!
Anyway, I'm off to bed now, so just remember to cross everything for me in the morning. Night night.
JackieS
#Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks JackieS! Well, it's over and done with now, and I think I have passed, but we'll see. I got the wrist and picking up a tub of face cream
. I won't find out until the middle of September, and we start back the 10th! Congratulations to all you GCSE students especially my cousin Stephen!Ye haa!!!
Guess who has an interview for an assistant job! The interview is on Thursday next week. It's a good thing really as I have an appointment with the orthodontist on the morning and the interview on the afternoon.
I'm probably just there to make up the numbers but what the heck!
What do physio assistants wear to interviews?
What kind of questions are they asked?
And in the very unlikley event that they offer me a job what the heck do I do about Teesside?
Although I may not have passed the resit so they would probably chuck me out anyway. We don't find out until after we are due back to uni so I don't even know what to do about that either. Do I just go back with the others or do I wait until I get the results?
If they chuck me out that means that I am wasting £5 per day trotting down to Teesside. It seems a bit sad if they do chuck me out as I only failed to get a pass mark in the subject by 0.6 of 1 per cent!
I think that I passed. I hope that I passed. When I was modelling for one of the others, I noticed when she said something not exactly right the examiner would raise his eyebrows in a Vulcan-like manner, and say 'really?'. Fortunately the other student corrected herself. She could probably hear me screaming in my head, don't forget the whatever it was, she had missed out! And then cheering when she remembered it!
I didn't notice him doing that when I did my own exam, so he either thought I was saying the right things or he was so bemused by my ignorance that he couldn't even force out a 'really?'. In fact he was probably thinking, 'Oh my God, what have we got here?!'
Guess who has an interview for an assistant job! The interview is on Thursday next week. It's a good thing really as I have an appointment with the orthodontist on the morning and the interview on the afternoon.
I'm probably just there to make up the numbers but what the heck!
What do physio assistants wear to interviews?
What kind of questions are they asked?
And in the very unlikley event that they offer me a job what the heck do I do about Teesside?
Although I may not have passed the resit so they would probably chuck me out anyway. We don't find out until after we are due back to uni so I don't even know what to do about that either. Do I just go back with the others or do I wait until I get the results?
If they chuck me out that means that I am wasting £5 per day trotting down to Teesside. It seems a bit sad if they do chuck me out as I only failed to get a pass mark in the subject by 0.6 of 1 per cent!
I think that I passed. I hope that I passed. When I was modelling for one of the others, I noticed when she said something not exactly right the examiner would raise his eyebrows in a Vulcan-like manner, and say 'really?'. Fortunately the other student corrected herself. She could probably hear me screaming in my head, don't forget the whatever it was, she had missed out! And then cheering when she remembered it!
I didn't notice him doing that when I did my own exam, so he either thought I was saying the right things or he was so bemused by my ignorance that he couldn't even force out a 'really?'. In fact he was probably thinking, 'Oh my God, what have we got here?!'
congrats on your interview..............................I would be tempted to go for the job interview anyway, you have nothing to lose and it's good to have a back up incase things don't go so right with your results....
do you have any extenuating circumstances you could use if you fail again (although I'm sure you won;t!) as in caSE OF EXtenuating circumstances you can be allowed to sit again a 3rd time
if you get to stay on the course and you get the job, I personally would say stay as you're already on the course so you may as well continue and I think it would be silly to leavem but thats me personally............
If you get the job and you don't know about the exam result then I guess you could tell them you need a months notce to start which would give you enough to time to find out and then make a decision depending on what the outcome is............
as for what to wear, I would say smart casual..........pair of smart trousers and a nice top.......don;'t need to go OTT.
As for questios, I would imagine it would be like uni why this job, why do you want to leave your physio course etc and probably some situation questions "what would you do if..... etc etc"
do you have any extenuating circumstances you could use if you fail again (although I'm sure you won;t!) as in caSE OF EXtenuating circumstances you can be allowed to sit again a 3rd time
if you get to stay on the course and you get the job, I personally would say stay as you're already on the course so you may as well continue and I think it would be silly to leavem but thats me personally............
If you get the job and you don't know about the exam result then I guess you could tell them you need a months notce to start which would give you enough to time to find out and then make a decision depending on what the outcome is............
as for what to wear, I would say smart casual..........pair of smart trousers and a nice top.......don;'t need to go OTT.
As for questios, I would imagine it would be like uni why this job, why do you want to leave your physio course etc and probably some situation questions "what would you do if..... etc etc"
Thanks for the advice Jackie - I think I got through it ok. I find out some time next week.
They asked some set questions like describing what physio and OT is, why I wanted the job, why I should have it etc. The scenario they gave was being asked by a nurse to check someone's capability on the stairs. I said if I was capable of doing it then depending on what I'd been told by my superiors I would, but with someone else to be a second helper. I even got given some free careers advice
.
Whatever happens, I'll just have to cross that bridge when I come to it.
See you!
They asked some set questions like describing what physio and OT is, why I wanted the job, why I should have it etc. The scenario they gave was being asked by a nurse to check someone's capability on the stairs. I said if I was capable of doing it then depending on what I'd been told by my superiors I would, but with someone else to be a second helper. I even got given some free careers advice
.Whatever happens, I'll just have to cross that bridge when I come to it.
See you!
Hey all.
Well I didn't get the job - I'm a bit dissappointed, but I'm kinda glad too, because it saves me from deciding between them and Uni. I'll be going back on Monday, and we're in every day next week.
They just posted the pre-clinical week timetable on Blackboard, and most of the modules have their module guides and reading lists up. When the last one goes up I'll be heading down to Middlesbrough to get the books I need before the swots and first years! After the pre-clinical week we have 4 weeks before going on a 4 week placement, then I think we have a week holiday (as if! They'll pile the work on!). We have to write an essay before November about the patients we see in our first placement, then there is records we have to keep during the placements. Bring it on!
I am really looking forward to going back, but I'm also a bit nervous. There is also some preparation work to do for one of the modules in the form of two quizzes. I suppose I should start my new blog for the entries after Monday - after all I'm not a first year anymore . This one I get to create myself too.
Well, unless something crops up in the next few days I hope to see you in my next blog. Thanks for all the support and views, and I hope that life treats you well.
Bye!
Well I didn't get the job - I'm a bit dissappointed, but I'm kinda glad too, because it saves me from deciding between them and Uni. I'll be going back on Monday, and we're in every day next week.
They just posted the pre-clinical week timetable on Blackboard, and most of the modules have their module guides and reading lists up. When the last one goes up I'll be heading down to Middlesbrough to get the books I need before the swots and first years! After the pre-clinical week we have 4 weeks before going on a 4 week placement, then I think we have a week holiday (as if! They'll pile the work on!). We have to write an essay before November about the patients we see in our first placement, then there is records we have to keep during the placements. Bring it on!
I am really looking forward to going back, but I'm also a bit nervous. There is also some preparation work to do for one of the modules in the form of two quizzes. I suppose I should start my new blog for the entries after Monday - after all I'm not a first year anymore
. This one I get to create myself too.Well, unless something crops up in the next few days I hope to see you in my next blog. Thanks for all the support and views, and I hope that life treats you well.
Bye!
Well, I've just had a bit of news from one of the tutors at uni. He phoned this morning to say that "I will be allowed to go into second year", but the official results aren't allowed to be released yet. So I still don't know if I passed or failed! For all I know I may have failed, but am being allowed to do a third resit. We're supposed to begin on Monday, but the results won't be released until after next week. I'm completely sick of this now - I've been left dangling for three months, and the stress is really beginning to get to me. I'm mysteriously breaking out in spots and coldsores, and the only reason I can see is the stress.
Anyway, until I know one way or the other I won't be creating a new blog topic, I'll just keep posting here.
Hope you all are feeling better than me.
jinglepupskye
P.S Mum proof read this to make sure there was nothing incriminating - death threats perhaps?
Anyway, until I know one way or the other I won't be creating a new blog topic, I'll just keep posting here.
Hope you all are feeling better than me.
jinglepupskye
P.S Mum proof read this to make sure there was nothing incriminating - death threats perhaps?
jinglepupskye
Well, I've just had a bit of news from one of the tutors at uni. He phoned this morning to say that "I will be allowed to go into second year", but the official results aren't allowed to be released yet. So I still don't know if I passed or failed! For all I know I may have failed, but am being allowed to do a third resit. We're supposed to begin on Monday, but the results won't be released until after next week. I'm completely sick of this now - I've been left dangling for three months, and the stress is really beginning to get to me. I'm mysteriously breaking out in spots and coldsores, and the only reason I can see is the stress.
Anyway, until I know one way or the other I won't be creating a new blog topic, I'll just keep posting here.
Hope you all are feeling better than me.
jinglepupskye
P.S Mum proof read this to make sure there was nothing incriminating - death threats perhaps?
Anyway, until I know one way or the other I won't be creating a new blog topic, I'll just keep posting here.
Hope you all are feeling better than me.
jinglepupskye
P.S Mum proof read this to make sure there was nothing incriminating - death threats perhaps?
sorry to hear you're still dangling! I guess its highly likely you passed seeing asthey're saying you're allowed to go into th 2 nd year, but I suppose there is always that cahce. I wonder why they're able to tell you that you're through but not tell you your score?
Just out of interest, and not meaning to worry you, but what is the policy on third sittings at Teeside. I know at George's that to be allowed a third sit you need to be able to provide extenuating circumstances or they won't allow it....I'm just curious really
So far as I'm aware you can do an exceptional third attempt but I don't know the circumstances which would be considered exceptional to allow that to happen!
The dog came into season the week we resat so that could be an exceptional circumstance, as I had to sleep with my bedroom door closed so she couldn't get on the bed. That means that there would be less oxygen in the room and that could have caused me to have brain damage which affected my ability to remember the joint structure of the wrist! It would be worth trying!
Alternatively you resit the entire module from scratch, which one of the students did last year. I don't know their circumstances though or why they were allowed to redo the module.
In the end it depends on how you've done in other modules. If you failed several, even after resits, then the reality is that you may not be ready for the course and need to rethink your options.
The results for resits are capped at 40% though we will be told, sometime between now and death, what we would have had if we had performed at that level in the first attempt.
One of the other students has just told me that they didn't get a phone call this morning to say they could go back for the second year! So now they are panicking that it means they can't go back. Oh boy!
At least by this time next Friday it will all be over. Hopefully. Unless the Board get eaten by man(person?)-eating tigers.
The dog came into season the week we resat so that could be an exceptional circumstance, as I had to sleep with my bedroom door closed so she couldn't get on the bed. That means that there would be less oxygen in the room and that could have caused me to have brain damage which affected my ability to remember the joint structure of the wrist! It would be worth trying!
Alternatively you resit the entire module from scratch, which one of the students did last year. I don't know their circumstances though or why they were allowed to redo the module.
In the end it depends on how you've done in other modules. If you failed several, even after resits, then the reality is that you may not be ready for the course and need to rethink your options.
The results for resits are capped at 40% though we will be told, sometime between now and death, what we would have had if we had performed at that level in the first attempt.
One of the other students has just told me that they didn't get a phone call this morning to say they could go back for the second year! So now they are panicking that it means they can't go back. Oh boy!
At least by this time next Friday it will all be over. Hopefully. Unless the Board get eaten by man(person?)-eating tigers.
Jinglepupskye is currently busy dancing round the room like a loony singing "I'm a second year phys-i-o! I'm a second year phys-i-o!".
I guess I should probably hold off on that letter insulting everyone and everything about Teesside .
E.T.A. You probably can guess that I passed my resit!
I guess I should probably hold off on that letter insulting everyone and everything about Teesside
.E.T.A. You probably can guess that I passed my resit!
swiftuk
Congratulations!
Thank you! I am just so relieved it's finally sorted
.
jinglepupskye
Jinglepupskye is currently busy dancing round the room like a loony singing "I'm a second year phys-i-o! I'm a second year phys-i-o!".
I guess I should probably hold off on that letter insulting everyone and everything about Teesside .
E.T.A. You probably can guess that I passed my resit!
I guess I should probably hold off on that letter insulting everyone and everything about Teesside
.E.T.A. You probably can guess that I passed my resit!
I now know what I scored in the resit. If I had performed the same in the first attempt I would have had 58% but as it was a resit, it was capped at 40%. Still, 58% is a solid pass, and a lot closer to my results for other modules. Things can only get better!
This will be my final posting, in this blog and I will be moving lock, stock and barrel onto the second year blog. If anyone wants to follow me for a warts and all vision of being a second year physio student then this is the link for the next instalment. http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=457812
Thanks to everyone who has viewed this blog and the people who have posted comments. Don't be shy about posting and if you have any questions then I will try to answer them. Good luck to all those starting this year and those continuing. May we all find jobs!
This will be my final posting, in this blog and I will be moving lock, stock and barrel onto the second year blog. If anyone wants to follow me for a warts and all vision of being a second year physio student then this is the link for the next instalment. http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=457812
Thanks to everyone who has viewed this blog and the people who have posted comments. Don't be shy about posting and if you have any questions then I will try to answer them. Good luck to all those starting this year and those continuing. May we all find jobs!
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