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Griffin Guilty/Not guilty

the_chauffeur

He's gone through deprived areas convincing they have problems because of minorities, and has been preaching hatred for political gain, ever since be bought "Racism for dummies". He needs to donate his testicular to the NHS, and then be hanged for perverting the land he's trying to "save".

That's not a criminal offence; What does it have to do with the trial?

Reply 21

Invocation

12

I was just making a general point.

Reply 22

Profesh

20

Griffin, a Cambridge University graduate, and Collett were charged in April 2005 after the BBC screened a secretly filmed documentary "The Secret Agent" in 2004. The programme showed the pair giving anti-Muslim speeches to activists.

With a Third, in Law; whereas Collett ambled (miraculously) away from Leeds bearing his hard-won 2:2. But that's beside the point, obviously.

(Incidentally, I wonder if 'incitment to intermural hatred' is a crime.)

Reply 23

Wez

14

The trial seems pointless. The object of the law in question is to keep the peace, but all it's doing is giving the guy publicity he doesn't deserve.

Reply 24

Agent Smith

11

Profesh

With a Third, in Law; whereas Collett ambled (miraculously) away from Leeds bearing his hard-won 2:2. But that's beside the point, obviously.

(Incidentally, I wonder if 'incitment to intermural hatred' is a crime.)

Yes. People make an awful lot of fuss about how Nick Griffin got a degree from Cambridge and how therefore everything he says must be intelligent and true. This is, simply put, a laughably false claim.

Reply 25

The_Bear

13

Not guilty.

FFS our prisons are full enough without putting another tard behind bars. He is an irrelevent little man

Reply 26

City bound

The_Bear

Not guilty.

FFS our prisons are full enough without putting another tard behind bars. He is an irrelevent little man

A tard who is also a very appealing orator to the mentally challenged. very good point Bear.

Reply 27

bikerx23

1

Agent Smith

He's guilty of Behaviour Likely to Cause a Breach of the Peace.

Surely that happens every time a man steps into a pub and orders a drink?

Reply 28

Wez

14

The likelihood of his actions causing harm is presumably considerably greater than those of a man ordering a drink. The harm created is also presumably considerably greater than the harm created by a man ordering a drink.

I still think it's ridiculous to put him on trial though.

Reply 29

Merovingian

Profesh

With a Third, in Law; whereas Collett ambled (miraculously) away from Leeds bearing his hard-won 2:2. But that's beside the point, obviously.

(Incidentally, I wonder if 'incitment to intermural hatred' is a crime.)

A third in engineering, actually.

Reply 30

Merovingian

Oswy

Griffin is trying to spread ignorance and hatred, he is the author of everything negative that happens to him, imv.

Oswy.

Now this is true and dangerous. But like I said, surely he was simply preaching to a primed audience?

Reply 31

Longshoredrift80

10

Meh, I'm not going to vote either way because it's silly without having heard the case and knowing the full facts, all the relevant law, what defences are put, etc.

Bissman

I would have to say Galloway should be in the docks along side this vile human being for also inciting anti semitism and religious hatred against this country.

Galloway should be in the dock for treason.

Reply 32

Goddess Fury

OP

8

Agent Smith

Yes. People make an awful lot of fuss about how Nick Griffin got a degree from Cambridge and how therefore everything he says must be intelligent and true. This is, simply put, a laughably false claim.

Which people say that :confused:

Update on the BNP site
http://www.************/news_detail.php?newsId=1223

EDIT: I did not realise links to the BNP site were banned!!!! Oh well you can find it yourself

Reply 33

The_Bear

13

Thats disgusting censorship, I demand that links to any site are not banned...especially political ones. Smith, make it happen.

All Griffin will do in prison is use his education to recruit and organise racists. Kinda like sending Bin Laden to Guantanamo Bay but releasing him in 6 months time.

Reply 34

Merovingian

happybob

EDIT: I did not realise links to the BNP site were banned!!!! Oh well you can find it yourself

That's surprising.

Reply 35

salgueira

Yeah, what's all that about? Why censor the URL of their website, but not the name of their party? Why censor any of it?

Reply 36

Agent Smith

11

Ask A D&D Mod, preferably Bismarck, because I've no idea what's going on with that.

Reply 37

Agent Smith

11

The_Bear

Thats disgusting censorship, I demand that links to any site are not banned...especially political ones. Smith, make it happen.

All Griffin will do in prison is use his education to recruit and organise racists. Kinda like sending Bin Laden to Guantanamo Bay but releasing him in 6 months time.

True true. Where was Mein Kampf written? That's right.

Reply 38

Beekeeper

13

"We find many things to which the prohibition of them constitutes the only temptation." – William Hazlitt

It's a stupid law, the kind of authoritarian legislation that is probably responsible for much of the BNP's recent success. If Griffin is found guilty then we'll probably see quite a singificant spout of growth for his Party.

Reply 39

Beekeeper

13

Thud

what? using words intended to deliberately incite racial hatred? how is that a "stupid law"?

It's vague and unnecessary. Besides, people should be allowed to "hate" whoever the hell they like, they might have good reason to. Do you even know what constitutes "hate"? I don't think many people do.

I'm against all "inciting hatred" laws, especially "incitement of religious hatred", they are vague and set a dangerous precedent.

I suppose words intended to incite violence is also a "stupid law"? :rolleyes:

Why do you suppose that? :confused:

Griffin Guilty/Not guilty

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