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Help please! Can't decide between Oxford and Harvard

I recently received an unconditional offer from both Oxford and Harvard university. I am wondering which I should choose as my backup choice as I hear that they are both quite good.. My first choice is Yale as they have offered my unconditional and a scholarship. I have been predicted 4x A*s and an A (I know, so bad that I only got an A for my fifth subject :/) I hope these grades give you an idea for what I should put as my backup choice.. I want a backup, just in case I decide I don't like Yale later..

Many thanks.

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Hi there, I am not joking around. Please stay of this thread if you are not serious about answering my question.

Many thanks.
Original post by marcoboy1818
I recently received an unconditional offer from both Oxford and Harvard university. I am wondering which I should choose as my backup choice as I hear that they are both quite good.. My first choice is Yale as they have offered my unconditional and a scholarship. I have been predicted 4x A*s and an A (I know, so bad that I only got an A for my fifth subject :/) I hope these grades give you an idea for what I should put as my backup choice.. I want a backup, just in case I decide I don't like Yale later..

Many thanks.

If that's true you have all the problems. It is extremely rare that those universities give unconditional offers before A2 exams, so I doubt this is true.
Original post by morgan8002
If that's true you have all the problems. It is extremely rare that those universities give unconditional offers before A2 exams, so I doubt this is true.


Sorry, I forgot to mention that, last year I did year 13 and I achieved 2x A*, 3x A. I wasn't satisfied, so I tried again..

Please take this seriously. You are potential Oxford students after all..
Original post by marcoboy1818
Sorry, I forgot to mention that, last year I did year 13 and I achieved 2x A*, 3x A. I wasn't satisfied, so I tried again..

Please take this seriously. You are potential Oxford students after all..

That's ok then if it's true. Go with whichever one you would be happier at. Look into each course in detail and also look at other things that might interest you. What is the city like in each case? Does the country make any difference to you?
I'm not sure how the system works. Do you have to accept two of the three or can you keep all three offers?


Maybe, not for a few years though.
Original post by marcoboy1818
Hi there, I am not joking around. Please stay of this thread if you are not serious about answering my question.

Many thanks.


The fact that you said "I know, so bad that I only got an A for my fifth subject" doesn't really do you a lot of favours...
Original post by morgan8002
That's ok then if it's true. Go with whichever one you would be happier at. Look into each course in detail and also look at other things that might interest you. What is the city like in each case? Does the country make any difference to you?
I'm not sure how the system works. Do you have to accept two of the three or can you keep all three offers?


Maybe, not for a few years though.


I can keep all of them, because they are in two different countries. I dont mind which country I study in as I have houses in both (family). I like England better because I don't like the American's attitude.. :/ Other things that interest me are basketball and athletics (black stereotypes lol) What course did you apply for Oxford?
Original post by Chlorophile
The fact that you said "I know, so bad that I only got an A for my fifth subject" doesn't really do you a lot of favours...


Can we please stop discussing whether or not I am joking (I can assure you that I am not!) and steer the conversation towards the question in hand. I high standards that's all..
Original post by marcoboy1818
I recently received an unconditional offer from both Oxford and Harvard university. I am wondering which I should choose as my backup choice as I hear that they are both quite good.. My first choice is Yale as they have offered my unconditional and a scholarship. I have been predicted 4x A*s and an A (I know, so bad that I only got an A for my fifth subject :/) I hope these grades give you an idea for what I should put as my backup choice.. I want a backup, just in case I decide I don't like Yale later..

Many thanks.


Isn't there a rule stating that you cannot make a deposit at more than one US university? I'd check that if I were you.

I'm also slightly confused as to how you ended up with offers from both Harvard and Yale at this point in the year. Did you apply in the last Admissions cycle (and then deferred your entry)? It's been a while since I did US applications, but don't results for the regular decision round come out in April? Harvard and Yale both offer Early Action with results available in December, but theirs is Restrictive/ Single Choice, so you can't possibly apply to both in the same cycle without violating the rules. If you did defer, isn't there a rule saying that you've agreed to accept the place there (or maybe not, I'm not entirely sure)?


Can you give me a reason please?
Original post by marcoboy1818
Can we please stop discussing whether or not I am joking (I can assure you that I am not!) and steer the conversation towards the question in hand. I high standards that's all..


I'm not saying you're joking, I'm saying you're being arrogant and that's not a pleasant characteristic.

If what you're saying is true, it totally depends on what you want from the university. If you want a broader education with more focus on your personal development then the US system is better. If you want a more specialised (and possibly, from what I've heard, a more intensive) education with a bigger focus on academia, Oxford might be a better idea. Academically they're all stellar, which one you choose probably won't have any effect on the quality of education you get. Basically, choose the one you'd be happier at.
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Original post by marcoboy1818
Can we please stop discussing whether or not I am joking (I can assure you that I am not!) and steer the conversation towards the question in hand. I high standards that's all..


Two months ago, you were doing 3 A Levels - Math (sic), Economics and Art at A2.

Did KCL ever get back to you?

As for retaking because you were dissatisfied with results, Oxford won't consider retake marks and I'd be very surprised if Harvard and Yale do.

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Original post by mishieru07
Isn't there a rule stating that you cannot make a deposit at more than one US university? I'd check that if I were you.

I'm also slightly confused as to how you ended up with offers from both Harvard and Yale at this point in the year. Did you apply in the last Admissions cycle (and then deferred your entry)? It's been a while since I did US applications, but don't results for the regular decision round come out in April? Harvard and Yale both offer Early Action with results available in December, but theirs is Restrictive/ Single Choice, so you can't possibly apply to both in the same cycle without violating the rules. If you did defer, isn't there a rule saying that you've agreed to accept the place there (or maybe not, I'm not entirely sure)?


Yes it is possible to apply to both Harvard and Yale (hence my situation - I will explain in a second) I did not defer my entry and I took SATs and SAT2s last year to apply to the American unis and my A-levels are plenty for Oxford entry.

As for how I ended up with offers from both Yale and Harvard, I applied for Harvard last year and get rejected, due to errors in my personal statement. I have since won a world-renowned international mathematics competition and Harvard sent me a letter giving me another opportunity. Yale I applied for early entry and was successful! I received this offer in December.

What University have you applied for? You seem very interested in my situation (I know it is really one of a kind).
Original post by Klix88
Two months ago, you were doing 3 A Levels - Math (sic), Economics and Art at A2.

Did KCL ever get back to you?

As for retaking because you were dissatisfied with results, Oxford won't consider retake marks and I'd be very surprised if Harvard and Yale do.

Post histories are available.


I share an account with a friend, no worries :smile:
Original post by Chlorophile
I'm not saying you're joking, I'm saying you're being arrogant and that's not a pleasant characteristic.

If what you're saying is true, it totally depends on what you want from the university. If you want a broader education with more focus on your personal development then the US system is better. If you want a more specialised (and possibly, from what I've heard, a more intensive) education with a bigger focus on academia, Oxford might be a better idea. Academically they're all stellar, which one you choose probably won't have any effect on the quality of education you get. Basically, choose the one you'd be happier at.


Thank you for your helpful reply, although I really do not appreciate being called arrogant.
Original post by marcoboy1818
Yes it is possible to apply to both Harvard and Yale (hence my situation - I will explain in a second) I did not defer my entry and I took SATs and SAT2s last year to apply to the American unis and my A-levels are plenty for Oxford entry.

As for how I ended up with offers from both Yale and Harvard, I applied for Harvard last year and get rejected, due to errors in my personal statement. I have since won a world-renowned international mathematics competition and Harvard sent me a letter giving me another opportunity. Yale I applied for early entry and was successful! I received this offer in December.

What University have you applied for? You seem very interested in my situation (I know it is really one of a kind).


I applied for the US and UK universities way back in 2010 (hence my familiarity with the timelines and all). I did my undergraduate at Oxford and am currently doing a Masters here.

If I were you, I'd take chlorophile's advice. Go wherever makes you happier, bearing in mind the different approaches to academics that US universities have as opposed to UK ones.
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Original post by marcoboy1818
I share an account with a friend, no worries :smile:


Of course you do. Totally credible. Everybody shares internet accounts. Completely believable. Do carry on. Both of you.
Original post by marcoboy1818
I can keep all of them, because they are in two different countries. I dont mind which country I study in as I have houses in both (family). I like England better because I don't like the American's attitude.. :/ Other things that interest me are basketball and athletics (black stereotypes lol) What course did you apply for Oxford?


I didn't apply for Oxford, they aren't so good for my undergraduate course. There's still the option to do postgraduate study there though.

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