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The Oxford TSA thread - 2016 applicants - 4th November 2015

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Reply 20
Original post by Pars12
C - The argument would be most weakened if the result was actually determined by music (i.e. what they like) and not by geo-politics.


'Western countries have no hope of winning' but have one 75% of the contests? It has to be D surely


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Reply 21
Original post by jchiappe
'Western countries have no hope of winning' but have one 75% of the contests? It has to be D surely


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I would say that's their motive, not their argument. The nub is that the eastern countries are (allegedly) voting geopolitically.
Original post by jchiappe
'Western countries have no hope of winning' but have one 75% of the contests? It has to be D surely


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They've won in the past, but it says that there are more eastern european countries who vote for each other now so this trend might not continue into the future. I'd say C as the argument is that the winner is decided by geo-politics as eastern european countries vote for each other but if in fact they simply like each other's music (as they share the same taste) then they are voting for the winner based on music- not geo-politics.

I'm a prospective PPE applicant for next year though- just finished GCSEs- so I'm no expert, just curious!! This sort of logical thinking is so interesting.
Original post by Nomes24
They've won in the past, but it says that there are more eastern european countries who vote for each other now so this trend might not continue into the future. I'd say C as the argument is that the winner is decided by geo-politics as eastern european countries vote for each other but if in fact they simply like each other's music (as they share the same taste) then they are voting for the winner based on music- not geo-politics.

I'm a prospective PPE applicant for next year though- just finished GCSEs- so I'm no expert, just curious!! This sort of logical thinking is so interesting.


I went with your logic.
Reply 24
Does anyone have past TSA papers which are not available on admissionstestingservice.org, like 2007 test?
I'm scoring in the mid to high 70s -- will working through a TSA book significantly increase my chances of admission?
Reply 26
Original post by beam314159
I'm scoring in the mid to high 70s -- will working through a TSA book significantly increase my chances of admission?


Difficult to say... Some people find them advantageous and others don't. Personally I find them really helpful, but then again I'm not scoring as high as you :smile:
Original post by mrpunchline
Difficult to say... Some people find them advantageous and others don't. Personally I find them really helpful, but then again I'm not scoring as high as you :smile:


Well, there's 2 components here:
- Will boosting my score further substantially help my chance of admission, considering i'm an international student (I get fewer, lower quality (skype, not in person) interiews)?
-Will a TSA prep book help me to do that? Which would be the best (specifically for moving from high 70s to 80s and 90s)?

Also, I'd be happy to offer specific tips if you want...
What's a score good enough to be called for interview given bad IGCSE grades?


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Reply 29
Original post by beam314159
Well, there's 2 components here:
- Will boosting my score further substantially help my chance of admission, considering i'm an international student (I get fewer, lower quality (skype, not in person) interiews)?


Well, first of all, a score in the high 70s is already a great score that will help your application. :smile: I however have no idea how much a better score will improve it, but I'm pretty sure it won't weaken it :wink:

Original post by beam314159
-Will a TSA prep book help me to do that? Which would be the best (specifically for moving from high 70s to 80s and 90s)?

Also, I'd be happy to offer specific tips if you want...


I think this depends on what your weaknesses are right now. Is it that you don't know how to solve some questions or is it more of a time management problem? I think that some books can help you with specific TSA-taking skills while others can help you with more overall problem solving and critical thinking knowledge.

I actually haven't taken any past test yet (but I'm pretty sure I won't score in the high 70s yet) but if you'd like to offer some advice I'd be more than happy to receive it :smile:
Original post by mrpunchline
Well, first of all, a score in the high 70s is already a great score that will help your application. :smile: I however have no idea how much a better score will improve it, but I'm pretty sure it won't weaken it :wink:



I think this depends on what your weaknesses are right now. Is it that you don't know how to solve some questions or is it more of a time management problem? I think that some books can help you with specific TSA-taking skills while others can help you with more overall problem solving and critical thinking knowledge.

I actually haven't taken any past test yet (but I'm pretty sure I won't score in the high 70s yet) but if you'd like to offer some advice I'd be more than happy to receive it :smile:


Um, it just varies; I often have problems parsing oddly worded questions and solving spatial problems.
Reply 31
Original post by beam314159
Well, there's 2 components here:
- Will boosting my score further substantially help my chance of admission, considering i'm an international student (I get fewer, lower quality (skype, not in person) interiews)?
-Will a TSA prep book help me to do that? Which would be the best (specifically for moving from high 70s to 80s and 90s)?

Also, I'd be happy to offer specific tips if you want...


Hi, current E&M student here. Please do not bother with TSA books. I got one while preparing for the TSAs and it was absolutely useless. Completely irrelevant to the test itself. Just do the past year papers and you'll be fine.
Original post by pirozhki
Hi, current E&M student here. Please do not bother with TSA books. I got one while preparing for the TSAs and it was absolutely useless. Completely irrelevant to the test itself. Just do the past year papers and you'll be fine.


Is there a place to get more practice tests, after you've done that? That's actually one reason I wanted to get the book
I tried the 2008 TSA for the first time today and I scored roughly 50
Is that an indicator that I may not score better even by practising other papers?


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Reply 34
Original post by n.safar4
I tried the 2008 TSA for the first time today and I scored roughly 50
Is that an indicator that I may not score better even by practising other papers?


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I'm pretty sure you will improve your score by practicing other papers :smile:
Original post by mrpunchline
I'm pretty sure you will improve your score by practicing other papers :smile:


Thanks :smile:


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I'm getting around 40/50 on the TSA, what does that convert to as a percentage roughly? Also does anyone have a source of practice questions at interview for ppe? thanks
Reply 37
Original post by InvisibleGenius
I'm getting around 40/50 on the TSA, what does that convert to as a percentage roughly? Also does anyone have a source of practice questions at interview for ppe? thanks


It differs from year to year but 40/50 equals roughly a score of 69
Original post by mrpunchline
It differs from year to year but 40/50 equals roughly a score of 69


Where do you find the translation between real mark and percentage?
Reply 39
Original post by InvisibleGenius
Where do you find the translation between real mark and percentage?


http://www.admissionstestingservice.org/for-test-takers/thinking-skills-assessment/tsa-oxford/preparing-for-tsa-oxford/

Then click "section 1 practice papers" and then choose a year and "score conversion" :smile:

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