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Hey, I'll be joining UoM in September too, and yeh drinking and clubbing is really not my sorta thing. So could you add me to this group chat as well please? :smile:
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Original post by Paisley99
I wouldn't mind partying...but the logical reason for not drinking:
I don't want all the horrible health problems that come with drinking. Why do you need to drink to have fun? Alcohol is nothing but destroying yourself...you forget about your problems for a while but in the long run it leads to depression and I'm very susceptible to that so I'm not touching it.
It's also addictive...why start drinking something which you know will only destroy you and then you need to put all your energy into trying to stop drinking...It's best to not drink it in the first place.
I don't want to be party because I'll be tempted to drink...

Partying and drinking gives you emotional pleasure but not happiness.

It's like saying chocolate and sex makes you happy... the pleasure is only temporary and if you indulge too much it just makes you fed up of life imo....they don't make you happy.



Chocolate, sex and alcohol DEFINITELY make you happy. In both the short run and the long run.

Alcohol has health benefits. It helps you socialise and prevents depression and extends your life expectancy. You should read up on it. Its not really addictive either.You're risking your health by not drinking.
Original post by tarteeliax
"Cole-slaw" your extremely rude and ignorant not everyone can drink or go clubbing there's something called religion and personal preference so can you please do one because your clearly not interested and are being a muppet by disrespecting those Ussssss that don't :smile:


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Its you're, not your.

"there's something called religion and personal preference" should read "there are some things called religion and personal preference"
Maybe everyone in this thread should compile a list of activities they don't enjoy so cole-slaw can tell us which ones we should and shouldn't be doing.
Original post by cole-slaw
Its you're, not your.

"there's something called religion and personal preference" should read "there are some things called religion and personal preference"


Wow, correcting someone's grammar in an attempt to seem like you're better than them. Way to go!
Original post by HandmadeTurnip
Maybe everyone in this thread should compile a list of activities they don't enjoy so cole-slaw can tell us which ones we should and shouldn't be doing.


You can do what you like, just don't exclude people who like doing different things to you. That's bullying.
Original post by cole-slaw
You can do what you like, just don't exclude people who like doing different things to you. That's bullying.


No one's excluding anyone, what are you talking about?
Original post by HandmadeTurnip
No one's excluding anyone, what are you talking about?


Are you going to invite drinkers to your non-drinkers event?
Original post by cole-slaw
Are you going to invite drinkers to your non-drinkers event?


I'm not a non-drinker, nor am I organising any events. In any case, I haven't seen anything in this thread that implies drinkers wouldn't be welcome.

Do you always take things so personally when someone admits to not liking something that you enjoy? It seems like a very odd and exhausting way to go through life.
Original post by HandmadeTurnip
I'm not a non-drinker, nor am I organising any events. In any case, I haven't seen anything in this thread that implies drinkers wouldn't be welcome.

Do you always take things so personally when someone admits to not liking something that you enjoy? It seems like a very odd and exhausting way to go through life.


I don't see how I have taken anything personally on this thread. I'm simply pointing out that organising activities specifically for "non-drinking freshers" is unfairly ostracising and excluding any freshers that do drink.
Original post by Paisley99
I wouldn't mind partying...but the logical reason for not drinking:
I don't want all the horrible health problems that come with drinking. Why do you need to drink to have fun? Alcohol is nothing but destroying yourself...you forget about your problems for a while but in the long run it leads to depression and I'm very susceptible to that so I'm not touching it.
It's also addictive...why start drinking something which you know will only destroy you and then you need to put all your energy into trying to stop drinking...It's best to not drink it in the first place.
I don't want to be party because I'll be tempted to drink...

Partying and drinking gives you emotional pleasure but not happiness.

It's like saying chocolate and sex makes you happy... the pleasure is only temporary and if you indulge too much it just makes you fed up of life imo....they don't make you happy.


Firstly, alcohol will not give you horrible health issues if you are sensible and don't binge drink some 10 units of alcohol. Be moderate in consumption and there isn't really any negative effect.

Then, saying alcohol is addictive is not a very good statement. It isn't chemically addictive but can be mentally addictive, but so can anything.

Using your logic, why would you want to eat food that tastes good but has high fat/salt content? What's the point trying to make yourself like bland food after eating food that tastes good?

Finally, there is definitely nothing wrong with short term pleasures. I can't think of a single person that has never indulged in something for the short term pleasures. If anything, it probably improves my overall happiness - not every pleasure has to be a long term thing like getting married or whatever you're thinking of.
Original post by cole-slaw
I don't see how I have taken anything personally on this thread. I'm simply pointing out that organising activities specifically for "non-drinking freshers" is unfairly ostracising and excluding any freshers that do drink.


Surely, by the same token, organising events that involve drinking excludes people that don't drink?
Original post by HandmadeTurnip
Surely, by the same token, organising events that involve drinking excludes people that don't drink?


No... Compare what I said with what you said.


organising activities specifically for "non-drinking freshers"

vs

organising events that involve drinking

Events that involve drinking can also involve non-drinking. The two are not exclusive. Nor are they specifically aimed at drinkers, they're aimed at everyone, whether you want to drink or not.
Original post by cole-slaw
No... Compare what I said with what you said.


organising activities specifically for "non-drinking freshers"

vs

organising events that involve drinking

Events that involve drinking can also involve non-drinking. The two are not exclusive. Nor are they specifically aimed at drinkers, they're aimed at everyone, whether you want to drink or not.


A wine tasting event, for example, is pretty exclusive for non-drinkers.

We're getting bogged down in semantics anyway. A lot of Freshers' events are geared towards drinking and going to clubs. If some people want to arrange a trip to the cinema instead, how does that harm anyone?
Reply 34
It's not even that deep. Don't know why some of you are making an issue out of this. Some like me for religious reasons do not like to drink or go clubbing; thus to socialise and make friends(like most students do through clubbing/drinking etc) people like me have to resort to activities that don't involve drinking.

Hope you understood that 'cole-slaw'. Also if you spot any grammatical errors then feel free to correct me as I'm always trying to improve my written English.
Original post by HandmadeTurnip
A wine tasting event, for example, is pretty exclusive for non-drinkers.

We're getting bogged down in semantics anyway. A lot of Freshers' events are geared towards drinking and going to clubs. If some people want to arrange a trip to the cinema instead, how does that harm anyone?


Yes, ok a wine-tasting event should probably not be part of freshers week. I challenge you to find a single wine tasting event in any freshers week in the UK. (Although you could argue that a non-drinker could still partake but just spit the wine out like many people do.)

A lot of freshers week events are geared towards socialising in places that facilitate that activity. Drinking is entirely optional. Going on to a nightclub afterwards is entirely optional.

If people want to organise a trip to the cinema, great. But why only aim it at non-drinkers? Its a bit ignorant to presume that just because a person is not 100% teetotal they don't also enjoy going to the cinema. Its like you're picking on drinkers for some reason. Its bullying.
Original post by szm95
It's not even that deep. Don't know why some of you are making an issue out of this. Some like me for religious reasons do not like to drink or go clubbing; thus to socialise and make friends(like most students do through clubbing/drinking etc) people like me have to resort to activities that don't involve drinking.

Hope you understood that 'cole-slaw'. Also if you spot any grammatical errors then feel free to correct me as I'm always trying to improve my written English.


Show me a link to a freshers week event in the UK that you would be unable to attend because drinking alcohol is compulsory, and I will agree that you are indeed being forced to organise your own events.
Reply 37
Original post by cole-slaw
Show me a link to a freshers week event in the UK that you would be unable to attend because drinking alcohol is compulsory, and I will agree that you are indeed being forced to organise your own events.


You must be an internet troll.
Original post by szm95
You must be an internet troll.


Can you show me a link? Or are you talking bull****?

Which is it? Resorting to name-calling just makes it look like you don't have an argument.
Original post by cole-slaw
Yes, ok a wine-tasting event should probably not be part of freshers week. I challenge you to find a single wine tasting event in any freshers week in the UK. (Although you could argue that a non-drinker could still partake but just spit the wine out like many people do.)

A lot of freshers week events are geared towards socialising in places that facilitate that activity. Drinking is entirely optional. Going on to a nightclub afterwards is entirely optional.

If people want to organise a trip to the cinema, great. But why only aim it at non-drinkers? Its a bit ignorant to presume that just because a person is not 100% teetotal they don't also enjoy going to the cinema. Its like you're picking on drinkers for some reason. Its bullying.


Can I ask you a question mate, are you like high atm or something? Because I can't begin to understand that you actually believe anything you're saying right now! xD If you do then people, according to 'cole-slaw', we have now all sadly become... drinkerphobics! :O

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