Why do men get such a raw deal now?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34136388
1) A boy sends a naked selfie to a girl via snapchat. Stupid, absolutely, but;
2) She saves it and distributes it around the school.
3) He ends up being charged for sending indecent images. She, however, does not get a criminal record like him for distributing indecent images. She does not get charged for revenge porn. She gets off scot free.
How? It is not remotely fair.
Like one of the comments made on it said;
"If a guy lies naked in his garden he is a flasher. If a woman does it he is a peeping tom".
In this story if it was the other way round I bet the guy would have been absolutely crucified. SHE would be the victim. He would be the one guilty of distributing indecent images of children, a guy guilty of sending revenge porn. Her an innocent girl who made a mistake.
Is he really guilty of a criminal offence? Poor guy will have this on his record now. If he is, she certainly should be.
My question; to me this looks like equality under the law is really not there. Am I just looking at it wrong? I imagine most feminists would say that this is actually not even equality.
1) A boy sends a naked selfie to a girl via snapchat. Stupid, absolutely, but;
2) She saves it and distributes it around the school.
3) He ends up being charged for sending indecent images. She, however, does not get a criminal record like him for distributing indecent images. She does not get charged for revenge porn. She gets off scot free.
How? It is not remotely fair.
Like one of the comments made on it said;
"If a guy lies naked in his garden he is a flasher. If a woman does it he is a peeping tom".
In this story if it was the other way round I bet the guy would have been absolutely crucified. SHE would be the victim. He would be the one guilty of distributing indecent images of children, a guy guilty of sending revenge porn. Her an innocent girl who made a mistake.
Is he really guilty of a criminal offence? Poor guy will have this on his record now. If he is, she certainly should be.
My question; to me this looks like equality under the law is really not there. Am I just looking at it wrong? I imagine most feminists would say that this is actually not even equality.
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One word. Feminism.
Feminism probably. You know because screw equality right. Women want to be the empowered ones now.
Original post by i<3milkshake
She gets off scot free.
Well, if you had actually read the article...
"[The boy's name] along with those of the girl involved and another teenager had been added to a police intelligence database".
I'm not making any judgment about whether this is right or wrong but both of them got in trouble, not just the boy. You should probably have read the article rather than looking for an excuse to complain about sexism against men.
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I know this story was really weird how they approached it, it seems like the guy is the victim in all this
one must understand women cannot be sent to such a horrible place as jail for such things unlike us emotionless men, the first attempt to do so did not bear fruit...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11836591/Revenge-porn-First-woman-sentenced-for-offence-is-spared-jail.html
Do note as well this article tells us the women slapped her partner...yet no attempt for charge for domestic abuse (which is a crime now in itself) or assault.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11836591/Revenge-porn-First-woman-sentenced-for-offence-is-spared-jail.html
Do note as well this article tells us the women slapped her partner...yet no attempt for charge for domestic abuse (which is a crime now in itself) or assault.
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Original post by i<3milkshake
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34136388
1) A boy sends a naked selfie to a girl via snapchat. Stupid, absolutely, but;
2) She saves it and distributes it around the school.
3) He ends up being charged for sending indecent images. She, however, does not get a criminal record like him for distributing indecent images. She does not get charged for revenge porn. She gets off scot free.
How? It is not remotely fair.
Like one of the comments made on it said;
"If a guy lies naked in his garden he is a flasher. If a woman does it he is a peeping tom".
In this story if it was the other way round I bet the guy would have been absolutely crucified. SHE would be the victim. He would be the one guilty of distributing indecent images of children, a guy guilty of sending revenge porn. Her an innocent girl who made a mistake.
Is he really guilty of a criminal offence? Poor guy will have this on his record now. If he is, she certainly should be.
My question; to me this looks like equality under the law is really not there. Am I just looking at it wrong? I imagine most feminists would say that this is actually not even equality.
1) A boy sends a naked selfie to a girl via snapchat. Stupid, absolutely, but;
2) She saves it and distributes it around the school.
3) He ends up being charged for sending indecent images. She, however, does not get a criminal record like him for distributing indecent images. She does not get charged for revenge porn. She gets off scot free.
How? It is not remotely fair.
Like one of the comments made on it said;
"If a guy lies naked in his garden he is a flasher. If a woman does it he is a peeping tom".
In this story if it was the other way round I bet the guy would have been absolutely crucified. SHE would be the victim. He would be the one guilty of distributing indecent images of children, a guy guilty of sending revenge porn. Her an innocent girl who made a mistake.
Is he really guilty of a criminal offence? Poor guy will have this on his record now. If he is, she certainly should be.
My question; to me this looks like equality under the law is really not there. Am I just looking at it wrong? I imagine most feminists would say that this is actually not even equality.
Original post by Plagioclase
Well, if you had actually read the article...
"[The boy's name] along with those of the girl involved and another teenager had been added to a police intelligence database".
I'm not making any judgment about whether this is right or wrong but both of them got in trouble, not just the boy. You should probably have read the article rather than looking for an excuse to complain about sexism against men.
"[The boy's name] along with those of the girl involved and another teenager had been added to a police intelligence database".
I'm not making any judgment about whether this is right or wrong but both of them got in trouble, not just the boy. You should probably have read the article rather than looking for an excuse to complain about sexism against men.
My point is that she should see a hell of a lot more than that. Maybe I expressed it badly.
I think she should get a lot more than him. If it was the other way round he would be let off.
Original post by i<3milkshake
3) He ends up being charged for sending indecent images. She, however, does not get a criminal record like him for distributing indecent images. She does not get charged for revenge porn. She gets off scot free.
“The boy, aged 14, who was not formally arrested or charged, but could have his details stored for at least 10 years.”
Did you even read the article?
Original post by ImNotReallyMe
I know this story was really weird how they approached it, it seems like the guy is the victim in all this
People on this thread seem to have this idea I am trying to slate feminism; not really. I am saying how society's perceptions should really change.
Guys are just as guilty of it at times. Their son sleeps with their teacher? Nice.
Their daughter does it? Call the police.
It isn't about feminism as much as the views of society as a whole.
Original post by Life_peer
“The boy, aged 14, who was not formally arrested or charged, but could have his details stored for at least 10 years.”
Did you even read the article?
Did you even read the article?
Sorry, gets a record then. Which will come up when he applies for jobs. In my view that is still pretty bad.
He doesn't get charged but he pretty much is really. I mean if he applies for a job it will come up just like he was charged.
Original post by i<3milkshake
My point is that she should see a hell of a lot more than that. Maybe I expressed it badly.
I think she should get a lot more than him. If it was the other way round he would be let off.
I think she should get a lot more than him. If it was the other way round he would be let off.
You didn't express it badly, you explicitly said things that were completely incorrect because in your outrage, you didn't actually read the article.
Original post by Plagioclase
both of them got in trouble, not just the boy.
tbf though with the government seeming to want to tackle the issue of spreading sexual images without consent/revenge porn, she'd be the perpetrator of this crime, after all if she hadn't taken a screenshot, this image would have disappeared. As of now it appears (if she assume her actions will appear on a CRB as his will) they are being treated as equally to blame...I'd shift that more towards her tbh, since from other accounts it doesn't seem that if you send your partner a sexual image, you have just committed a crime, it is their crime when they spread it around in the public domain.
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Original post by i<3milkshake
Sorry, gets a record then. Which will come up when he applies for jobs. In my view that is still pretty bad.
He doesn't get charged but he pretty much is really. I mean if he applies for a job it will come up just like he was charged.
He doesn't get charged but he pretty much is really. I mean if he applies for a job it will come up just like he was charged.
Yeah, it's quite stupid and exaggerated and the girl should have been given a much harsher punishment. The modern age of social liberalism, positive discrimination and political correctness comes with a whole bunch of newly invented ‘offences’ that wouldn't have made people raise eyebrows thirty years ago and I think it's disgusting that we as a society are just standing by and letting it all happen, treating horny teenagers as if they were some despicable criminals. We are digging our own grave.
Original post by i<3milkshake
People on this thread seem to have this idea I am trying to slate feminism; not really. I am saying how society's perceptions should really change.
Guys are just as guilty of it at times. Their son sleeps with their teacher? Nice.
Their daughter does it? Call the police.
It isn't about feminism as much as the views of society as a whole.
Guys are just as guilty of it at times. Their son sleeps with their teacher? Nice.
Their daughter does it? Call the police.
It isn't about feminism as much as the views of society as a whole.
Of course, i understand
certainly in this isolated example i thought perhaps they shouldn't have been so harsh, they should instead educate him about being more careful online, and the girl not to do such things, i think though perhaps the police intervention helps to warn others and to stamp out this type of teenage teasing
We can't really say what would have happened if it was the other way around, only look at past instances, but that doesn't say anything about what would happen in this particular case
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If it was the other way round then all the crazy feminists would come out to play. No one decides to talk about the fact that these things happen to guys too. I see it happen all the time but these stupid feminists are too busy going on about their 'rights'
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If it was the other way round then all the crazy feminists would come out to play. No one decides to talk about the fact that these things happen to guys too. I see it happen all the time but these stupid feminists are too busy going on about their 'rights'
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If It was the other way round then all the crazy feminists would soon be coming out to play. These things happen to guys too but nobody ever talks about it because they're too busy speaking about 'feminists' and their 'rights'
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I wouldn't mind being female. Much easier in this country. And I would thank all the feminists for my easy life.
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