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Reply 40
Original post by picklescamp
for me, it only becomes an argument after I win the debate and the other person gets shaken up and personal :tongue:

yeah it's ok. But then I have my somewhat like-minded friendship group and I set up an unabashedly biased student newspaper. It's definitely important to have a balance in your life when it comes to those around you so I get your concern :smile:


Haha. I see. :wink:

I am a small part of my college's newspaper (creative stuff like poetry and such) which I take part in every now and then. I tend to do editing more often though.

Mind if I ask you what course did you apply for?
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Original post by saule1116
Haha. I see. :wink:

I am a small part of my college's newspaper (creative stuff like poetry and such) which I take part in every now and then. I tend to do editing more often though.

Mind if I ask you what course did you apply for?


oh that's cool. I love poetry :smile: do you like Kate Tempest? she's my favourite poet atm

I applied for SPS (social and political sciences) with philosophy and I'll probably accept the place :smile: how about you?
Considering the University of York banned International Men's Day I would consider it an extremely left wing institution.

I'm sure you'll love it there.
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Original post by saule1116
At no point did I say that the political consensus is my main (or 'base':wink: criteria. It's just one of those little checks that I would like to tick before I make my final choice.


In my opinion it shouldn't be a 'check' at all - unless it's literally a BNP stronghold there's no reason for it to affect you.

But you know what - I kinda respect you for this in a weird way, it's good you're not willing to 'settle' for your uni choice.
Original post by sw651
If you are going to a certain uni based on politics then you need to grow up a bit first.


hole in one mate. So many young 'adults' on TSR "ew liberals no" "ew im dont want to be near poor people" "ew im too working class" "ooh no they're all right wing" "ooh too left"

Seriously could not have put it better myself mate reppin u up it's actually quite worrying some of the criteria people are using to select their uni it's like being back in year 3
Original post by Little Popcorns
How old are you? You don't even look like you're of uni age yet!

I think you're immature for thinking it's immature. At the end of the day it would be stupid to pick somewhere where she feels she doesn't fit in or resonate with a large majority of students it'll just make her miserable...


Not really. Yes it's smart to recognise what you're like and avoid places you know you wouldn't be happy.

It's immature and constrictive of self-growth to judge others and avoid places purely based on political labels (when there is so much more to people and opinions than over-arching terminology)
Reply 46
It's certainly not immature to not like the idea of spending time around people with different politics.

UoY is significantly more right-wing than many universities in the country. It is largely distant from the NUS and I would describe it as completely isolationist and uninterested in the national conversation at this point. Being involved in the NUS myself has given me a lot of insight into the stark difference between this university and many others, not only in the political views of the student body but also in the general sense of apathy that I have not noticed anywhere near as strongly in the majority of other universities I've encountered.

Labour may be the biggest political society on campus (marginally larger than York Tories as of this year), but it's only centre-left and most of the members are not the biggest fans of Corbyn. I would say that York is, generally, very much grounded in the political centre.

It's not just 'politics', though. I and my friends have received a massive amount of harassment at York - including death threats, campus press publishing information from our facebook pages and innumerable misogynistic and transphobic personal attacks. I am also aware of racism on campus, though as a white person I have obviously never personally experienced it, so cannot comment on it. I would speak more about the situation, but I'm tired and find the entire topic distressing.

The only reason I am able to continue studying at this university is because I have a large support network, and there are a lot of people very engaged with liberation issues in the Women's, LGBTQ, Disabled Students' and BME Networks. Shout-outs to Palestinian Solidarity Society, Socialist Society and Feminist Society, too.
Original post by saule1116
You're* :wink:
I got to know some people who were extremely right-wing and we couldn't really talk without having a clash of views on almost every topic. I have nothing against people holding different views/values. All I am trying to say is that I will find it difficult to be surrounded by people who are holding these values to the EXTREME level. :smile:


Most people are not extreme. While York is not Leeds (more Tories in York) my experience of university was that the social justice warriors and Labour members are pretty active protesting ect.. and that university Tories tend to be more socially liberal than the RL party (though as capitalist) but less in number (although when you talk to a lot of politically inactive people you get plenty who will say 'but actually i like what Cameron is doing'. We saw in the election that there was a shy-Tory element to young people whereby Tories on Facebook and the like were hounded.

I'd not factor it in to your decisions to be honest. You'll find no shortage of lefties.
Reply 48
Original post by Metanar
It's certainly not immature to not like the idea of spending time around people with different politics.

UoY is significantly more right-wing than many universities in the country. It is largely distant from the NUS and I would describe it as completely isolationist and uninterested in the national conversation at this point. Being involved in the NUS myself has given me a lot of insight into the stark difference between this university and many others, not only in the political views of the student body but also in the general sense of apathy that I have not noticed anywhere near as strongly in the majority of other universities I've encountered.

Labour may be the biggest political society on campus (marginally larger than York Tories as of this year), but it's only centre-left and most of the members are not the biggest fans of Corbyn. I would say that York is, generally, very much grounded in the political centre.

It's not just 'politics', though. I and my friends have received a massive amount of harassment at York - including death threats, campus press publishing information from our facebook pages and innumerable misogynistic and transphobic personal attacks. I am also aware of racism on campus, though as a white person I have obviously never personally experienced it, so cannot comment on it. I would speak more about the situation, but I'm tired and find the entire topic distressing.

The only reason I am able to continue studying at this university is because I have a large support network, and there are a lot of people very engaged with liberation issues in the Women's, LGBTQ, Disabled Students' and BME Networks. Shout-outs to Palestinian Solidarity Society, Socialist Society and Feminist Society, too.


Look at the societies you have listed, they are disliked by a huge amount of people for their own reasons so to say death threats etc is seemingly misleading.

Also I take you to task when you say "I am white, so obviously I haven't experienced it..." That sounds very narrow minded
Reply 49
Original post by picklescamp
oh that's cool. I love poetry :smile: do you like Kate Tempest? she's my favourite poet atm

I applied for SPS (social and political sciences) with philosophy and I'll probably accept the place :smile: how about you?


Sorry, I haven't heard of Kate Tempest. My favourites at the moment are Sylvia Plath and Pablo Neruda.
I applied to do Law and I'm planning to put York either as my firm or insurance choice. :smile:
Reply 50
Original post by Chaz W
In my opinion it shouldn't be a 'check' at all - unless it's literally a BNP stronghold there's no reason for it to affect you.

But you know what - I kinda respect you for this in a weird way, it's good you're not willing to 'settle' for your uni choice.


I tend to enjoy researching. Hence, I've got various things that my first choice uni should at least try and satisfy.
(Not aimed specifically at you) GUYS, I AM ASKING ABOUT HOW RIGHT-WING THE UNIVERSITY OF YORK IS FROM YOUR POINT OF VIEW. It should be irrelevant why I am interested in the political consensus of the university. All I asked for is your opinions about the information I have received. Calm yourselves and stop stressing over what my checks are and why I am considering the political aspect of the university in the first place...
Hello, committee member of the University of York UKIP here, I wouldn't call the University of York right wing per se, but I suppose from your point of view the fact that we have a ratified society there should tell you something. Our members tend to be on the libertarian side of UKIP. When I went to the University last year for the first time , the York Tories were dominant and to a certain degree still are (as in they still get more turnout than Labour but Labour are bigger), but they're less dominant since the Corbyn surge. The political party societies have a lot of eurosceptics for a university (the Tories occasionally make me look moderate on the EU and some of the socialists take a Tony Benn attitude to the EU). The Lib Dems are a lovely group of people, I can't really say much about the Greens as I haven't met very many of them (perhaps two or three). I must mention, while I am aware of a certain level of abuse thrown at various groups of people including us, it's not society people that do it. I'm glad it's not too heavily associated with the NUS , because it allows for a strong tradition of free speech. I would say that the University of York is very right wing for a university (or at least the student body is) but centrist when compared to the general populace of the UK. It's only right wing because the NUS and most other universities are very very left wing.
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I go there, the university is far from right wing. Ignore the above poster, she's clearly the type who enjoys making a mountain out of a mole hill considering the societies she is a part of.


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I've met people from both ends of the political spectrum from Stalinist to Anarcho-capitalist at the University . You'll find plenty of left wingers, centre-left wingers, centrists, liberals,libertarians and conservatives at this university so whoever you want to mix with , don't let anyone put you off going, it's a great institution. Only thing is that our university papers tend to blow things way out of proportion, and while they have published people's facebook profiles that was for raising awareness of abuse or for positive reasons such as campaigns people are working on. I know the editors personally and they are good journos, if hungry for stories.
Reply 54
Original post by Conzy210
I go there, the university is far from right wing. Ignore the above poster, she's clearly the type who enjoys making a mountain out of a mole hill considering the societies she is a part of.


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Thanks for letting me know! :smile:
I wouldn't say the uni is right wing at all... rather, from what I've experienced, it's left wing, probably due to confirmation bias. But then again, there are a lot of students here, and most don't participate in the political societies. So I wouldn't worry about the politics of the uni here.
Reply 56
Original post by Thorshammer3
I've met people from both ends of the political spectrum from Stalinist to Anarcho-capitalist at the University . You'll find plenty of left wingers, centre-left wingers, centrists, liberals,libertarians and conservatives at this university so whoever you want to mix with , don't let anyone put you off going, it's a great institution. Only thing is that our university papers tend to blow things way out of proportion, and while they have published people's facebook profiles that was for raising awareness of abuse or for positive reasons such as campaigns people are working on. I know the editors personally and they are good journos, if hungry for stories.


Cheers! :smile: Glad to know this! :smile:
Reply 57
Original post by scrotgrot
I would imagine they resent it because, as a Russell Group, it'll be full of Surrey's finest, as I described, while many of them will be incapable of getting into a similar uni.

York is a solid uni for generalist, vaguely academic types who get about AAB at A-level and it is well recognised as such.


I hope that courses requiring grades of A*AA-AAA (PPE, Economics, Politics, English etc.) do not simply consist of students that are "vaguely academic types".

As for University politics: it's pretty much a rule worldwide that in general, universities are left-leaning institutions. I would imagine that York is no different in this regard. So don't stress about it OP.
Original post by Gimmel
I hope that courses requiring grades of A*AA-AAA (PPE, Economics, Politics, English etc.) do not simply consist of students that are "vaguely academic types".

As for University politics: it's pretty much a rule worldwide that in general, universities are left-leaning institutions. I would imagine that York is no different in this regard. So don't stress about it OP.


Grade inflation since my day when we didn't even have A*s! Also I got AAAA and I wouldn't call myself anything more than vaguely academic...
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Reply 59
Original post by scrotgrot
Grade inflation since my day when we didn't even have A*s! Also I got AAAA and I wouldn't call myself anything more than vaguely academic...


You've a point there. It would do some good for A-levels if they had a dose of normal distribution in the style of the Finnish Matriculation Examination (top 5% get the best grade in the subject, bottom 5% fail no matter what). You could say that in the current system, anything below "AAA" is very mediocre, perhaps even worse. A-levels do not sufficiently discriminate between the average and the exceptional.

It's actually pretty unfair how Finnish students (and many other EU nationals) have to compete with a qualification that suffers from pretty bad grade inflation. Take Maths for an example. 50% of you guys get an A* or A from maths while only 5% of us get the top grade, no matter how good we are. On top of that, our advanced maths curriculum is slightly broader and deeper.
Usually UK universities ask for the "L/7" grade with courses where A at A-level maths is required. That's just plain hilarious.

To top it all off, often the universities ask for grades like 4 Laudaturs, which puts you in the top 1.5% of your cohort (to gain 4 Laudaturs, you need to be in the top 5% in 4 different subjects). While the A-level requirements are A*AA/AAA, which puts you in the top 10-20% of your cohort.
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