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Reply 60
Original post by Omarau
Hi I want to know about the training, I heard it is an 18-24 week full on training and you can not have any days off. my question is what if you have a holiday booked but are about to start the training a month or 2 months prior, would you have to cancel your holiday?

Hi
maybe HR can help?
If it was a long holiday ( over a week ) I imagine that would be somewhat difficult to accommodate
They would probably ask you to go on a later course.
I am starting soon and i have a couple of hospital appointments that i need to fit in
best of luck
Original post by Omarau
Hi I want to know about the training, I heard it is an 18-24 week full on training and you can not have any days off. my question is what if you have a holiday booked but are about to start the training a month or 2 months prior, would you have to cancel your holiday?


You would either need to cancel the holiday or rearrange the training.

You can usually have a couple of days off, although we were warned at the start of our course that even sickness might mean we need to restart. But you can't have too much time off because you will miss things. Even if you catch up from the textbook it's not the same as sitting in class. You wouldn't get the benefit of discussion and practical work.
Original post by weswart
Hi
maybe HR can help?
If it was a long holiday ( over a week ) I imagine that would be somewhat difficult to accommodate
They would probably ask you to go on a later course.
I am starting soon and i have a couple of hospital appointments that i need to fit in
best of luck


Hospital appointments are different as they're usually more spread out, so you'll miss one day at a time.

But do be aware that you may need to be signed off by occupational health depending on the reason for the appointment
Reply 63
Original post by BlueLightDriver
You would either need to cancel the holiday or rearrange the training.

You can usually have a couple of days off, although we were warned at the start of our course that even sickness might mean we need to restart. But you can't have too much time off because you will miss things. Even if you catch up from the textbook it's not the same as sitting in class. You wouldn't get the benefit of discussion and practical work.


Thank you for your reply. I understand taking substantial time off would not be welcomed but my holiday is literally 5 days sat to wed, so only missing 3 days. i understand the importance of training and its purpose but surely they should implement a week break in middle of course or something.
Original post by Omarau
Thank you for your reply. I understand taking substantial time off would not be welcomed but my holiday is literally 5 days sat to wed, so only missing 3 days. i understand the importance of training and its purpose but surely they should implement a week break in middle of course or something.


Why should everyone else on the course be delayed 3 days because you want a holiday?

Or are you saying that you should just be allowed to miss the 3 days? What would happen after? The work follows on, so you can't miss say the work on the cardiovascular system and the heart and then expect to come back for the session on ECGs, as it just wouldn't make sense. But you're not going to be studying whilst on holiday, so the only other possibility would be that the tutors run private training just for you for the rest of the course.

You're fairly lucky that whilst in training you'll be Monday-Friday during the day (except during the driving course you may come in for evening/night driving practice). When you're actually out on the road you'll be working shifts covering 24 hours. You'll be working nights. You'll be working weekends. You'll be working both at the same time when it's a bank holiday too. You will miss out on things that you want to do. That's just the nature of the job.
Hi there,
I'd really appreciate your help. I've got an upcoming interview lined up for the TEAC post and I'm a bit concerned. Prior to interview they have sent consent forms stating once you have passed the TEAC training course, you will be on immediate annual leave for 3 weeks whereafter you'll be posted at your station. Does that mean 3 weeks worth of annual leave will be lost and without question? If we are entitled to 25 days holiday, this would leave 10 days for the whole year!?

Also, they state that you will be posted to stations where patient need is greatest. I live in east london/bordeline essex...does this mean they could place me in west London? That would be dyer for me to commute... do they take distance into account?

With the C1 driving test, do they provide the practical training or is this something else we have to payout privately for?

I really want the job but at the same time the more information they send, the more questionable I am. I feel like I'm signing up for something that I have no say in? :frown:

Any help would be much appreciated. This thread has been a great insight :smile:
Hi there,
I'd really appreciate your help. I've got an upcoming interview lined up for the TEAC post and I'm a bit concerned. Prior to interview they have sent consent forms stating once you have passed the TEAC training course, you will be on immediate annual leave for 3 weeks whereafter you'll be posted at your station. Does that mean 3 weeks worth of annual leave will be lost and without question? If we are entitled to 25 days holiday, this would leave 10 days for the whole year!?

Also, they state that you will be posted to stations where patient need is greatest. I live in east london/bordeline essex...does this mean they could place me in west London? That would be dyer for me to commute... do they take distance into account?

With the C1 driving test, do they provide the practical training or is this something else we have to payout privately for?

I really want the job but at the same time the more information they send, the more questionable I am. I feel like I'm signing up for something that I have no say in? :frown:

Any help would be much appreciated. This thread has been a great insight :smile:
Why on earth do you get paid so little for what you do. Really don’t want that to come across rude - more of a compliment. You really do so much, i’ve never quite got my head around why paramedics aren’t on near(ish) to a doctor wage! But anyway thanks a lot for what you do:smile:
How much do you get paid?
Original post by gradeguesser
Why on earth do you get paid so little for what you do. Really don’t want that to come across rude - more of a compliment. You really do so much, i’ve never quite got my head around why paramedics aren’t on near(ish) to a doctor wage! But anyway thanks a lot for what you do:smile:

It might be to do with training - doctors do a 5 year degree initially, and then go into further and specialist training. It takes years to become a consultant.
In comparison, to become a paramedic you do a 3 year degree, and the technician role is only 20 or so weeks.

Other than that, I'm really not sure.

Original post by rainbowcat1437
How much do you get paid?


Ambulance technicians are on band 4 in the Agenda For Change payscales, although some services have senior technicians that are band 5. Newly qualified paramedics are band 5, which goes to band 6 after the qualifying period. Some ambulance services have a lower role which is band 3.

As well as this we get paid "unsocial hours", which means we get paid more because we work nights and weekends. For me, this is 25% because 25% of my shifts are unsocial. We also get paid for not being able to take a rest break during the shift. And we never finish on time, so get paid for the overtime that we do.
Original post by BlueLightDriver
Ambulance technicians are on band 4 in the Agenda For Change payscales, although some services have senior technicians that are band 5. Newly qualified paramedics are band 5, which goes to band 6 after the qualifying period. Some ambulance services have a lower role which is band 3.

As well as this we get paid "unsocial hours", which means we get paid more because we work nights and weekends. For me, this is 25% because 25% of my shifts are unsocial. We also get paid for not being able to take a rest break during the shift. And we never finish on time, so get paid for the overtime that we do.


Omg you guys as well as nurses should really be earning 40k+!! You guys are so underpaid
Have you ever had someone use the ambulance as a taxi?
Reply 72
Original post by BlueLightDriver
Hospital appointments are different as they're usually more spread out, so you'll miss one day at a time.

But do be aware that you may need to be signed off by occupational health depending on the reason for the appointment


It is quiet a serious supected conditon but if it needs to be signed I had better give them ample notice then.
thanks
Original post by HateOCR
Have you ever had someone use the ambulance as a taxi?

I've heard of people calling an ambulance instead of a taxi for a lift home on the news and on Casualty and things, but I've never had that myself. Like people who live near a hospital, so if they're out they call an ambulance with a made up complaint, get taken to hospital, and then walk out and go home. But ambulance services do take action against regular callers so if someone did this they wouldn't be able to do it for long (this action against regular callers isn't always a bad thing. They won't tell someone not to call if they have a genuine problem requiring regular ambulance attendance, but they will work with other agencies like social services or GP to see if other support would be better).

But we do often get people who have very minor accidents/injuries and who need to go to hospital/GP but who don't take themselves, they just call an ambulance. Something like a broken arm doesn't always require an ambulance, if there is someone else who can drive them or if they can call a taxi. And with how busy the service is now, that can often be quicker.
I'm not saying don't ever call an ambulance for a broken arm, because there will be times when one is needed. But it shouldn't be the default option of "I'm hurt, I need an ambulance" where there are no complicating factors and they can get to hospital themselves.

Original post by weswart
It is quiet a serious supected conditon but if it needs to be signed I had better give them ample notice then.
thanks


If it's something that may affect your ability to work, then they will probably require you to talk to occupational health. And since the job involves walking, long hours, driving, lifting, vulnerable people etc then most things will potentially be a problem. Make sure you let them know. They'll probably send you an occupational health clearance form at some point anyway.
Hello is there any general number what I can call to find out to which hospital the person was admited ?...I don't want to call all hospitals because they not always have time to answer ...Is there general number to call as is urgent the person who I am looking for should have brain operation and I don't have contact with that person a week now ... I want to know if everything is ok ...Thank you
What happens if you notice someone really hurt as you are going towards a called emergency? Do you just leave it and go to the place you were supposed too or do something?
Original post by Kolopaula
Hello is there any general number what I can call to find out to which hospital the person was admited ?...I don't want to call all hospitals because they not always have time to answer ...Is there general number to call as is urgent the person who I am looking for should have brain operation and I don't have contact with that person a week now ... I want to know if everything is ok ...Thank you

No, there's no general number. You would have to call each hospital invidiually, but it's unlikely they'll tell you much due to patient confidentialiity and data protection.

Original post by monkeyman0121
What happens if you notice someone really hurt as you are going towards a called emergency? Do you just leave it and go to the place you were supposed too or do something?

This doesn't generally happen. And sometimes if we're going to one call and are near another, we'd get cancelled by control and sent to the closer one. We have sat navs and GPS so they can see where the ambulances are at all times, so they know if something nearer is available.

But if it does happen, we'd only know if the injured person was outside or if there was someone waving us down (and a lot of people don't wait outside, so it makes it a very low chance of it happening). Then we'd speak to the person and get a few brief details and make a quick judgement on which was more urgent. When we're on the way to jobs we get a few details about what we're going to, so although it might not always be right we've got something to compare.

We would keep control updated so that they can send another ambulance to the other job if needed.
Original post by BlueLightDriver
Do you have a question you've always wanted to ask someone who works on a frontline emergency ambulance? Well, now's your chance! Ask anything about treating patients, driving on blue lights, working 12 hour shifts - i'll even tell you what colour my socks are! (black, unfortunately)


Labour or Conservatives?
Original post by BlueLightDriver
I've not seen the show, but all TV programmes are to an extent inaccurate.

We make fun of the fire brigade. They're called "water fairies" (amongst other things). We make jokes about how they sleep all day. But with all the emergency services there's an undercurrent of respect, because we couldn't do what they do.


I'm not a paramedic - I'm an ambulance technician. This essentially means we do the same thing, although we can't give as many drugs and there's a few skills we don't have. To the general public it's seen as the same, and it mostly is - although we get paid even less.

Because it's a 24/7 service, we work shifts. So a "typical day" can start anywhere from 6am to 10pm. This year, I'm working over Christmas and new year. So a typical day might actually be a night. But anyway, you get there early and figure out which vehicle you've been allocated, and who your crewmate is (I only work on ambulance trucks. If you have a car/bicycle/motorbike you don't get a crewmate). You then have to put all your personal kit on the vehicle - we have to carry a change of uniform, our stab vest, our lunch etc with us. Then we get 10 minutes to check over the vehicle to ensure that all equipment is present and working, and also that the vehicle is in a roadworthy condition and has fuel. Most people get in early to do this, because done properly it takes a lot longer than 10 minutes.
Then you discuss with your crewmate what you're doing that day. One person is the attendant, which means they sit in the passenger seat, and they do the paperwork and the main asking questions. The other person is the driver, which means they drive and carry all the equipment. Despite what the Daily Mail would like you to believe, there is no such thing as an "ambulance driver", so even the person driving is still a skilled clinician in their own right.
Then after your 10 minutes is up, you get sent on a job. You get told where you're going (the address), and a brief description of the injury/illness. This is often wrong. The driver drives to the job, and the attendant plays Candy Crush/helps with navigation.
Then you get there and treat the patient. Some patients need to go to hospital, and this can mean carrying them down stairs etc. Others can be left at home, and this means a lot of paperwork. If the patient does go to hospital we have to stay with them until they are onto a hospital bed/chair and the staff have taken responsibility, so with reducing bed numbers and increasing numbers of patients this can often mean long waits. I've waited over 5 hours for a bed before.
Once the patient is left at home or in hospital, we have to clean the ambulance and equipment and restock the bags. If we're lucky, there might be a few minutes to grab some food, bearing in mind the vehicles have trackers so you can't really go anywhere and so it's only what you brought with you.
Then when you're ready you go green available, and get another job and do it all again.

Some days, you might get a lunch break; I've had 3 this year. It is impossible to finish on time, but you always hope to not be too late. At the end of the shift you have to get back to station, unload your personal stuff from the ambulance, and leave it clean and tidy for the next crew. We're paid for 10 minutes at the end of shift for this, but this also takes longer than 10 minutes.


That’s amazing! I didn’t know all of this was done by the ambulance crew as well. 👍🏽 Wow!
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