Ucl V Imperial

Everyone who has ever applied to medicine is arrogant and stupid.

thankyou, thats exactly wht im trying to say!

and AEH whoever you are claiming that im arrogant and stupid, id much rather go to a uni other than imperial/ucl. its just that i live in london and im gonna have to commute for personal reasons. as there are only 5 med schools in london and i only have 4 choices, i have to make the choice between ucl/imperial. im not dying to go to either because their 'superior', i was just wanting some advice on which is less competitive.

That's the point, some aren't easier than others. Really, they aren't. Most of the time playing to the odds and maximising your chances in medicine are good things but as far as this goes, you have to accept that what you are doing is, by its very nature, arrogant. You are looking at the odds, which sit against you, and thinking you can beat them. And, partially by extension, what you are doing is difficult and stupid and will sooner or later bring you to some grief.

you posted a message calling medical schools you're thinking of applying to as "superior" and others (which a lot of us in this thread already attend) as "normal". Every one of the medical schools in London is highly competitive, maybe they each look for slightly different things in an ideal candidate, but they're all going to be competitive so you should pick which you'd rather go to and not which you'd imagine to be easier to get into. They're all very different, when you go to open days, you'll know which you can picture yourself at.

if you read my posts you would realise that i am applying to every single medical school in london except one (as i only have 4 choices). therefore i have to eliminate either imperial or ucl because i thought (past tense) they were harder to get into.

oxygenbubbles,

i only presumed because u said

you posted a message calling medical schools you're thinking of applying to as "superior"

which implies i am applying to more than 1 when i clearly said either imperial or ucl

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here. You should just be careful when you're posting on a forum where people go to every medical school mentionable suggesting some are "superior" to others. Anyway, have you been to look at either Imperial or UCL? I'm not sure whether you already know or not, but you said earlier that Imperial had a 6 year course, which is just because a BSc is compulsory (BSc is also optional at the other London unis so they can be made into a 6 year course).

No sorry, applying to medicine as an act is arrogant. Believing you can help people and cure illnesses is arrogant because sooner or later you will find the limit of your ability and fail, and in the process hurt people through what you're doing. This isn't aimed at you in particular, this is just plain old how it works.

medics dont claim to 'cure' people but how cn u say they dont help people?
have u never been to the doctors?

i would say oxbridge, ucl and imperial are different to the rest because they come top of most med school league tables, require the BMAT and are the most competitive. also theyre courses are 6 years.

I think it was Voltare that said, Medicine is amusing the patient whilst nature takes its course or something like that.

What do you mean that you prefer the other London schools for "social reasons"?

but dont the people that apply to ox/camb have a much higher academic standard? which means it would be difficult or an average candidate to get in.