I am feeling a hint of jelousy within the forum!! So what if people get under 10 minutes, good on 'em, it doesn't suprise me either, christ if I can get mine down to 12 i'm sure some fit blokes could get theres well below 10!! Maybe people should stop worrying about what others are doing and concentrate on getting there personal best. Clearly this thread isn't having the desired motivational effect that it was designed for, for everyone. All any of us can do is our best.