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Ba (Hons) primary education- what's the difference?? (mmu)

https://www2.mmu.ac.uk/stepd/primary/

If u click on the link, under the title "undergraduate degrees" theres 2 options for the Ba (Hons) degree course in primary education...one with maths and one without...what's the difference?

I've chosen to do maths at a-level which is why I'm interested in the differences



Also, has anyone done either of these courses? If so, do u have any advice or experiences to share?
Original post by Zabidoo
https://www2.mmu.ac.uk/stepd/primary/

If u click on the link, under the title "undergraduate degrees" theres 2 options for the Ba (Hons) degree course in primary education...one with maths and one without...what's the difference?

I've chosen to do maths at a-level which is why I'm interested in the differences



Also, has anyone done either of these courses? If so, do u have any advice or experiences to share?

Have a look at the modules that are in both degrees. The one with maths should have more mathsy modules than the one without.
Reply 2
Original post by DrawTheLine
Have a look at the modules that are in both degrees. The one with maths should have more mathsy modules than the one without.

https://www.edgehill.ac.uk/courses/primary-education-with-qts/tab/modules/


I had a glance at the edge Hill modules for the course...does this mean that no matter which course I take it will have to do some kind of specialist subject (look at yr 2 modules)? On this website it has different ones like english and science...


It also says that upon graduating I will receive the following:
BA (Hons) Primary English Education with QTS
BA (Hons) Primary Mathematics Education with QTS
BA (Hons) Primary Modern Languages Education with QTS
BA (Hons) Primary Science Education with QTS

Does this mean that if I went to mmu, it wudnt rly matter which one I picked cuz I'd receive it anyway? Or do different unis do things differently?
(edited 4 years ago)
Original post by Zabidoo
https://www.edgehill.ac.uk/courses/primary-education-with-qts/tab/modules/


I had a glance at the edge Hill modules for the course...does this mean that no matter which course I take it will have to do some kind of specialist subject (look at yr 2 modules)? On this website it has different ones like english and science...


Potentially. I'm sorry, I'm not very well informed about primary education as a degree. Do you have someone at your school like a careers adviser or UCAS adviser who could help you choose a course? Alternatively, are you able to visit any universities so you can speak to current students or staff?
The majority of Primary Education degrees will make you take a "specialism". With Edge Hill you choose a subject strength English, maths, science or MFL. When you qualify you will qualify with a Primary Education degree but your subject strength will be one of those subjects - you are still a 'normal' teacher it is just thought that you may have more knowledge about your strength subject.

With MMU you choose you can go on the Primary Education route which will still carry subject strengths - you will still choose English maths or science. However, if you choose the Primary Education (maths) route, this is a bespoke route that is a subject specialism rather than a subject strength. You will still be a qualified primary school teacher, however, you will have bespoke maths training. The idea of this specialist route is that you eventually lead maths in your school/trust at some point in your career - giving schools a greater understanding of good maths practice.

If you are passionate about maths education then go for the specialism route. If you are undecided then it will be best to go for the universal route offered by Edge Hill and MMU where you choose your subject strength as part of module selections.

Hope this helps.
Reply 5
Original post by bwilliams
The majority of Primary Education degrees will make you take a "specialism". With Edge Hill you choose a subject strength English, maths, science or MFL. When you qualify you will qualify with a Primary Education degree but your subject strength will be one of those subjects - you are still a 'normal' teacher it is just thought that you may have more knowledge about your strength subject.

With MMU you choose you can go on the Primary Education route which will still carry subject strengths - you will still choose English maths or science. However, if you choose the Primary Education (maths) route, this is a bespoke route that is a subject specialism rather than a subject strength. You will still be a qualified primary school teacher, however, you will have bespoke maths training. The idea of this specialist route is that you eventually lead maths in your school/trust at some point in your career - giving schools a greater understanding of good maths practice.

If you are passionate about maths education then go for the specialism route. If you are undecided then it will be best to go for the universal route offered by Edge Hill and MMU where you choose your subject strength as part of module selections.

Hope this helps.


What do u mean by subject specialism and subject strength?

So with subject specialism I learn everything the same as the subject strength but in more depth for maths in particular?

How wud having specialised in maths rather than having it as a subject strength help me? What does it do?
(I've done some research and apparently people specialising in maths is in demand but other than that how will it help?)
(edited 4 years ago)
When you take the Primary Ed degree you will usually choose a subject strength either English, maths or science. This is a subject you will spend more time on / selected as an extra module.
With the Primary Ed (maths) degree you will automatically be selected for subject strength as maths. You will also have extra maths on top of that - this is the specialism.
So, someone could take the universal route Primary Ed and have a subject strength as maths. However, someone doing the Primary Ed (maths) degree would have their strength as maths as well as being a "maths specialist".
Subject strength is something everyone will have and some will have maths. However, if you take the (maths) route you will be a specialist in primary maths. This will help you as maths specialists are currently in demand for primary. This is why many universities offer the Primary Education (maths) route. The idea is that more 'specialist' practitioners will be in schools.

For example: a student on the Primary education degree taking a maths subject strength may complete their dissertation with a maths focus. A student on the Primary education (maths) degree may complete their dissertation with a maths focus, but will also have additional school experience time dedicated to maths.
Reply 7
Original post by bwilliams
When you take the Primary Ed degree you will usually choose a subject strength either English, maths or science. This is a subject you will spend more time on / selected as an extra module.
With the Primary Ed (maths) degree you will automatically be selected for subject strength as maths. You will also have extra maths on top of that - this is the specialism.
So, someone could take the universal route Primary Ed and have a subject strength as maths. However, someone doing the Primary Ed (maths) degree would have their strength as maths as well as being a "maths specialist".
Subject strength is something everyone will have and some will have maths. However, if you take the (maths) route you will be a specialist in primary maths. This will help you as maths specialists are currently in demand for primary. This is why many universities offer the Primary Education (maths) route. The idea is that more 'specialist' practitioners will be in schools.

For example: a student on the Primary education degree taking a maths subject strength may complete their dissertation with a maths focus. A student on the Primary education (maths) degree may complete their dissertation with a maths focus, but will also have additional school experience time dedicated to maths.


Ooh ok i get it now
Thank u so much 😊

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