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2022/23 Detective Constable Police Now Scheme

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Original post by Trinculo
The police rank structure goes:

Constable -> Sergeant -> Inspector -> Chief Inspector -> Superintendent - then a lot of very high ranks.

This, however isn't really a reflection of "progression" as such - only of attaining higher ranks.

In the police, constables "do" things. They take statements, arrest people, investigate crimes and so on. Sergeants sometimes do those things, but are mostly supervisors and line managers. They supervise the work of constables (detectives), supervise their crime reports and casefiles, dish out work and also do some limited HR type functions.

Inspectors and Chief Inspectors are almost exclsively middle managers who supervise teams and do things like resource management and dealing with slightly bigger picture issues. For detectives they might head up a team or squad and lead a more important investigation -but in a supervisory function rather than hands on. You do not ordinarily get inspectors carrying out interviews or arresting people.

For a lot of cops, progression means becoming more skilled and experienced and moving on to do the kind of work they want to do. For detectives this might mean getting special interview courses or learning to drive fast cars. A lot of people have ambitions in terms of the type of unit they want to go to. In the short term to medium term, you hear a lot of DCs wanting to go to places like Sapphire or Robbery. In the longer term, a lot of DCs have always wanted to do MIT (murders) and the Flying Squad was traditionally seen as where the best detectives went. This is largely completely separate from promotion, and in many cases incompatible with it. A lot of people want to do the cool police work, not be managers to the people who do it.

There is one exception to this, which doesn't actually count for DCs - and that is public order, where you do get inspectors directly on the ground, still supervising, but often performing a more direct role. Sergeants perform key public order roles, leading serials on the ground.

Money wise, you reach top of scale for a constable in your 7th year. A sergeant earns slightly more than a top-rate constable, and inspectors etc proportionately more. One thing to be aware of is that after sergeant, you don't get OT pay - so you will find that people can earn a lot of extra money as constables and sergeants, but what you get as an inspector is all you'll ever get once you've progressed to the top of that scale.


Thank you so much for your detailed answer ! I couldnt expect any better !

Do you know how long it takes ( on average I guess) to get to the point of specialising yourself ( weather choosing robbery or murders etc..)
Original post by Ness1708
Thank you so much for your detailed answer ! I couldnt expect any better !

Do you know how long it takes ( on average I guess) to get to the point of specialising yourself ( weather choosing robbery or murders etc..)


Not an easy thing to answer because it depends on so many things - most importantly what it is that the individual actually wants.

I don't know the exact ins and outs of the programme that you're on - whether it's DEDC or PN or normal entry, as a detective, you have to pass the NIE and then you have 2 years to complete your workbook to become a full DC. At this point, your probation should also have ended and so you would technically be free to leave borough policing. Whether you do or not is up to you and depends a lot on what skills you have acquired and where your interests lie. Some people go down the safeguarding / sexual offences thing and get courses on specialist interviewing etc. They might want a permanent posting to Sapphire or CAIT on borough, and then eventually move on to a central unit. Others might stay in CID or move around in the borough to gangs or robbery or various crime squads -then look to go to something specialist or some kind of CT role.

Other people just like it on borough, find a place they're happy or sometimes its a place where they're doing a good job and earning a lot of money.

People specialise a lot sooner nowadays because of the shortages of personnel, but my advice would be not to do it too soon. Do at least 5 or 6 years on borough and don't get FOMO because the opportunities will always come up again, and you really need to build up the experience so that you don't get overwhelmed if you go to a specialist unit and the first case you deal with is a big one. This is especially true now that a lot of detectives have never been PCs and don't have a gradual curve into more serious crime.
Reply 82
Hi guys! I about to send my application but I'm a bit confused with the information for the online assessments. I understand that the competency videos we have 3mins to prepare and 3mins to speak? Is that right? And then for all the other assessments the written the briefing and the SJT are we recorded and timed or can we do them all at our own pace in our own time? Also are we allowed to make notes on paper in the briefing and written exercise. I feel like theres a lot of conflicting info online and I'm hoping someone who has done them can help me out!
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Original post by Tommo992
Had my assessment centre today, feel like it didn't go awful, but could have also gone a lot better. now just need to wait up to 10 days to get the results.

Hi, how was your feedback from the assessment centre and what language did they use, I had mine this week and have my feedback but it doesn’t sound great
Reply 84
Original post by Hdotw
Hi, how was your feedback from the assessment centre and what language did they use, I had mine this week and have my feedback but it doesn’t sound great


I had my assessment centre just over a week ago, received the feedback a few days later and still not heard from the recruitment officer yet. Had pretty negative sounding feedback too. It could be similar to the first online assessment where they give everyone some positives and some negatives (which could just be not AS strong as others; i.e you could have 100% in the others and then they give you "negative" responses to the 99%). That's what I'm hoping for anyways! Good luck, hope you hear back soon!
Hey guys, I completed the assessment centre 2 weeks ago and found out this week that I passed! They are going to email regarding a fitness and medical test/vetting stuff. Is there any interviews/further stages after this part of the application?T
Thanks
Reply 86
Original post by Hollieallen
Hey guys, I completed the assessment centre 2 weeks ago and found out this week that I passed! They are going to email regarding a fitness and medical test/vetting stuff. Is there any interviews/further stages after this part of the application?T
Thanks

Hi Hollie,

I’ve recently just been offered the job so i’m familiar with the progression.

So, on your medical you will do the bleep test, dna, fingerprints, documents etc etc.. then afterwards complete a vetting form in your own time. Unless you are in the PC DHEP route, there will be no further interviews or assessments! Be aware vetting does take a while (few weeks minimum).

This reply is based on a Met application.

Good Luck!
Hi there
Thanks for the reply!
Will keep you updated :smile:

Original post by Jwardle8
Hi Hollie,

I’ve recently just been offered the job so i’m familiar with the progression.

So, on your medical you will do the bleep test, dna, fingerprints, documents etc etc.. then afterwards complete a vetting form in your own time. Unless you are in the PC DHEP route, there will be no further interviews or assessments! Be aware vetting does take a while (few weeks minimum).

This reply is based on a Met application.

Good Luck!
Reply 88
Hi Guys,

I am currently in the vetting stage of my DHEP. As of last month, my vetting got rejected on the 4th. I have placed an appeal for my vetting, I was wondering whether anybody knows the time wait and the chances of an appeal being overturned? Any reply would be so helpful it has been very stressful.
hi there, does anyone know the dress code for girls. can we wear dresses and tights, skirts etc? what is the dress code in general for the dc pathway? for uni etc
Reply 90
Original post by elisepndav
hi there, does anyone know the dress code for girls. can we wear dresses and tights, skirts etc? what is the dress code in general for the dc pathway? for uni etc


Dress code for the assessments, for training, or for the job?

Assessments go smart. Training, for women it can be almost anything you like other than leggings or ripped jeans. Definitely do not wear a skirt or dress to everyday uni training - it is possible you will have impromptu stop/search training or you might be asked to be a "stooge". You will get told when you have ELS (first aid) or OST. For those days you wear joggers/leggings and it used to be a white T-shirt but that might have changed.

For the job, it depends on where you end up going, and it depends on your role. A lot of squads are very very casual. I would not recommend skirts or dresses unless you know you are going to court. Never wear heels. I would also not wear anything "nice". At a moments notice you might end up in a crime scene, or more likely at custody interviewing the filthiest person in the whole world.
Reply 91
Original post by Kfay345
Hi Guys,

I am currently in the vetting stage of my DHEP. As of last month, my vetting got rejected on the 4th. I have placed an appeal for my vetting, I was wondering whether anybody knows the time wait and the chances of an appeal being overturned? Any reply would be so helpful it has been very stressful.


Do you know why it got rejected?
Reply 92
Original post by noisewind
Do you know why it got rejected?

No it was due to a third party. They couldn't mention it. I have appealed and hoping to get a response. There wasn't much said so I think I have a chance to appeal.
Reply 93
Original post by Kfay345
No it was due to a third party. They couldn't mention it. I have appealed and hoping to get a response. There wasn't much said so I think I have a chance to appeal.

May take over a month or so to appeal - I’ve never appealed but I imagine they consider your case, and then re-conduct vetting. I wish you the best of luck.
Reply 94
Original post by noisewind
May take over a month or so to appeal - I’ve never appealed but I imagine they consider your case, and then re-conduct vetting. I wish you the best of luck.

Yeah thank you I appreciate all I can hope is that all goes well.
Hi everyone - I'm not sure if anyone will see this but I'm just wondering what degrees you have done? I know it is any degree but I'm just wondering if it is best to do one related to crime etc.??
Original post by avaamaysteer
Hi everyone - I'm not sure if anyone will see this but I'm just wondering what degrees you have done? I know it is any degree but I'm just wondering if it is best to do one related to crime etc.??
Nothing is 'best' to do - some may give you more insight, like Criminology etc, but everyone is brand new. There are people with totally unrelated degrees like Mathematics who perform better than Forensic Science degree holders. Good luck!
Original post by avaamaysteer
Hi everyone - I'm not sure if anyone will see this but I'm just wondering what degrees you have done? I know it is any degree but I'm just wondering if it is best to do one related to crime etc.??

If you want to be a cop, do the degree that either you're going to enjoy or will give you other options in case it doesn't work out. Things like Criminology are utterly irrelevant to practical policing as its social science - what you observe / theorise is applicable only at the macro level. There's a lot of structural theory etc in criminology nowadays - so you might be chatted up into a model that describes poverty and deprivation causing criminal behaviour due to statistical analysis of a dataset from Cape Town in 1996. This does nothing to help you find out who broke into the Co-op last night, and any insight you might have into the causes of criminality are more likely to hinder you than help you.

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