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India's double standards

India's double standards
While India blames Pakistan for inaction after Mumbai's terror attacks, it turns a blind eye to a dangerous terror organisation

"There should be no double standards in the global fight against terrorism," the Indian prime minister Manmohan Singh declared last week. The message was intended for Pakistan, but if Dr Singh is concerned about double standards, he should look closer to home.

Earlier this month Sri Lanka's state-run Sunday Observer published an interview with the country's army chief, Sarath Fonseka, who, while expressing solidarity with India after the Mumbai attacks, severely criticised some Indian politicians for supporting the LTTE. Fonseka had particularly harsh words for the powerful Tamil Nadu politicians Vaiko Gopalsamy and P Nedumaran, calling them "jokers" and accusing them of being venal mouthpieces of the LTTE. He wondered why these men would support an organisation that had assassinated an Indian prime minister, and warned that they were a threat to India's own integrity.

Within hours of the interview's publication, Tamil Nadu's political establishment united in condemnation of General Fonseka. In a letter to the Indian prime minister, Vaiko demanded that New Delhi seek an apology from the president of Sri Lanka. "In a democracy," he wrote, "army generals do not criticise leaders of a foreign country." Sensing trouble, Sri Lanka's president issued a statement "regretting" General Fonseka's remarks, and last week the Sunday Observer's editor Dinesh Weerawansa was summarily sacked. But all of this, far from diminishing General Fonseka's claims, only casts light on India's own irresponsible role in the vortex of terror that threatens to consume Sri Lanka.

The LTTE could not have grown without the support of successive state governments of Tamil Nadu in India. Founded in 1972, the LTTE was among the many groups formed to resist the majoritarian constitution of Sri Lanka which imposed Sinhala as the "sole official language" upon the country. Tamil Tigers used Chennai as a safe haven, and their activities, as the Indian historian Ramachandra Guha wrote, "were actively helped by the state government, with New Delhi turning an indulgent blind eye". The 1987 pact signed by Rajiv Gandhi and JR Jayawardene put a temporary halt to this, and India agreed to send peacekeeping forces to Sri Lanka to help Colombo disarm the LTTE, an adventure so disastrous that one Indian journalist at the time called it "India's Vietnam". The Tamil Tigers retaliated by assassinating Rajiv Gandhi.

The LTTE is arguably the world's most dangerous terrorist organisation. It is the only terrorist outfit to have successfully carried out assassinations of two heads of government. Its international cadres regularly extort money from Tamils in Canada and Australia and even Britain. By imposing the "one family, one fighter" rule, it has enslaved the very people whose liberation it claims to fight for. It has its own air force (Air Tigers), its own navy (Sea Tigers), an elite fighting unit (the Charles Anthony Regiment) and a dedicated suicide squad (Black Tigers). The Tamil Tigers make al-Qaeda look amateurish. But because the LTTE's victims are not western, it does not elicit the same kind of response that Islamist terror groups do.

India banned the LTTE in 1992, but a report released by Jane's Information Group last year identified Tamil Nadu as the principal source of LTTE's weapons; and Fonseka was not exaggerating when he said that the Indian politicians who support the LTTE are a threat to India's own integrity—much as the men who supported the Mumbai attackers are a threat to Pakistan's. Vaiko, the LTTE's fiercest Indian supporter, was recently arrested for suggesting that India's unity would be jeopardised if it supported the Sri Lankan government against the Tamil Tigers.

New Delhi did not intervene on behalf of Tibetan protesters—even though their leader, the Dalai Lama, was described by the Indian prime minister as the "personification of non-violence" and it was conspicuous in its silence over the protests in Burma. It has accepted that Tibet is an integral part of China, and it has struck lucrative petroleum deals with the Burmese Junta—even though protesters in both nations have relied mostly on non-violent means to make their voices heard.

But it has consistently meddled in Sri Lankan affairs, stymieing Colombo's efforts against an adversary that has used almost exclusively violent means to achieve its ends. Much of this is no doubt a consequence of coalition politics: the government in New Delhi has to do certain things to keep its allies happy. But New Delhi dismisses Pakistan's messy internal problems as an excuse which Islamabad invokes to justify its inaction against Islamist terrorists based on its soil. How can it use the same excuse to carry on its do-nothing policy against Tamil terrorists based on its soil? After the Mumbai attacks Singh stated in emphatic terms that there can be no negotiations with terrorists; then, kowtowing to pressure from Tamil Nadu politicians, he agreed to send his Foreign Minister to Colombo to push the Sri Lankan government to do exactly that. If this does not amount to double standards, what does?

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/dec/28/india-mumbai-terror-attacks

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Comment: I think it is true what they say, you reap what you sow. India can be blamed for all the terrorist atrocities which take place in Sri Lanka and according to the law of karma, the same is likely to happen to it aswell.

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Vegitto the e-thug strikes again to attack India on TSR, take a seat.
Reply 2
Lol, no one is attacking India. I am just bringing to attention some of the less documented aspects of India.

You can say what you like, but if you cannot discuss the original article then you might as well go and troll somewhere else.
Reply 3
law@leics
You would say that :rolleyes:


+1.. GTFO with your conspiracies:rolleyes:

Pakistan have haboured a load more terrorists and done :santa2::santa2::santa2::santa2: all about it.. India have put measures in place to stop the LTTE whereas Pakistan have sat on their arse whilst they export terrorists left right and centre..

Honestly, check your facts before you come here with your nationalist :santa2::santa2::santa2::santa2::santa2::santa2::santa2::santa2:..
Reply 4
Well, obviously India has done nothing significant against LTTE if it still in existence. So I suggest India sorts out its own mess first before asking others to sort out theirs.
Vegitto
Well, obviously India has done nothing significant against LTTE if it still in existence. So I suggest India sorts out its own mess first before asking others to sort out theirs.


Sort out Let/Taliban and the other ******** of terrorist camps in Pakistan first then complain about the LTTE, sit down.
Reply 6
lol, I am not that arsed about Let/Taliban. It is India who is moaning like a baby even though they do the same to Sri Lanka. So India needs to stop this hypocrisy.
Reply 7
Vegitto
lol, I am not that arsed about Let/Taliban. It is India who is moaning like a baby even though they do the same to Sri Lanka. So India needs to stop this hypocrisy.


you would say that:rolleyes: the pakistan flag gives it away:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Reply 8
shriya
you would say that:rolleyes: the pakistan flag gives it away:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


LMAO, you should have looked at your own flag before you decided to contribute with your 'unbiased' view on the issue.

The purpose of the thread is to put a point across. You cannot criticise others if you are doing exactly the same thing yourself. Doing so is known as hypocrisy.
Reply 9
Vegitto
India's double standards
While India blames Pakistan for inaction after Mumbai's terror attacks, it turns a blind eye to a dangerous terror organisation

"There should be no double standards in the global fight against terrorism," the Indian prime minister Manmohan Singh declared last week. The message was intended for Pakistan, but if Dr Singh is concerned about double standards, he should look closer to home.

Earlier this month Sri Lanka's state-run Sunday Observer published an interview with the country's army chief, Sarath Fonseka, who, while expressing solidarity with India after the Mumbai attacks, severely criticised some Indian politicians for supporting the LTTE. Fonseka had particularly harsh words for the powerful Tamil Nadu politicians Vaiko Gopalsamy and P Nedumaran, calling them "jokers" and accusing them of being venal mouthpieces of the LTTE. He wondered why these men would support an organisation that had assassinated an Indian prime minister, and warned that they were a threat to India's own integrity.

Within hours of the interview's publication, Tamil Nadu's political establishment united in condemnation of General Fonseka. In a letter to the Indian prime minister, Vaiko demanded that New Delhi seek an apology from the president of Sri Lanka. "In a democracy," he wrote, "army generals do not criticise leaders of a foreign country." Sensing trouble, Sri Lanka's president issued a statement "regretting" General Fonseka's remarks, and last week the Sunday Observer's editor Dinesh Weerawansa was summarily sacked. But all of this, far from diminishing General Fonseka's claims, only casts light on India's own irresponsible role in the vortex of terror that threatens to consume Sri Lanka.

The LTTE could not have grown without the support of successive state governments of Tamil Nadu in India. Founded in 1972, the LTTE was among the many groups formed to resist the majoritarian constitution of Sri Lanka which imposed Sinhala as the "sole official language" upon the country. Tamil Tigers used Chennai as a safe haven, and their activities, as the Indian historian Ramachandra Guha wrote, "were actively helped by the state government, with New Delhi turning an indulgent blind eye". The 1987 pact signed by Rajiv Gandhi and JR Jayawardene put a temporary halt to this, and India agreed to send peacekeeping forces to Sri Lanka to help Colombo disarm the LTTE, an adventure so disastrous that one Indian journalist at the time called it "India's Vietnam". The Tamil Tigers retaliated by assassinating Rajiv Gandhi.

The LTTE is arguably the world's most dangerous terrorist organisation. It is the only terrorist outfit to have successfully carried out assassinations of two heads of government. Its international cadres regularly extort money from Tamils in Canada and Australia and even Britain. By imposing the "one family, one fighter" rule, it has enslaved the very people whose liberation it claims to fight for. It has its own air force (Air Tigers), its own navy (Sea Tigers), an elite fighting unit (the Charles Anthony Regiment) and a dedicated suicide squad (Black Tigers). The Tamil Tigers make al-Qaeda look amateurish. But because the LTTE's victims are not western, it does not elicit the same kind of response that Islamist terror groups do.

India banned the LTTE in 1992, but a report released by Jane's Information Group last year identified Tamil Nadu as the principal source of LTTE's weapons; and Fonseka was not exaggerating when he said that the Indian politicians who support the LTTE are a threat to India's own integrity—much as the men who supported the Mumbai attackers are a threat to Pakistan's. Vaiko, the LTTE's fiercest Indian supporter, was recently arrested for suggesting that India's unity would be jeopardised if it supported the Sri Lankan government against the Tamil Tigers.

New Delhi did not intervene on behalf of Tibetan protesters—even though their leader, the Dalai Lama, was described by the Indian prime minister as the "personification of non-violence" and it was conspicuous in its silence over the protests in Burma. It has accepted that Tibet is an integral part of China, and it has struck lucrative petroleum deals with the Burmese Junta—even though protesters in both nations have relied mostly on non-violent means to make their voices heard.

But it has consistently meddled in Sri Lankan affairs, stymieing Colombo's efforts against an adversary that has used almost exclusively violent means to achieve its ends. Much of this is no doubt a consequence of coalition politics: the government in New Delhi has to do certain things to keep its allies happy. But New Delhi dismisses Pakistan's messy internal problems as an excuse which Islamabad invokes to justify its inaction against Islamist terrorists based on its soil. How can it use the same excuse to carry on its do-nothing policy against Tamil terrorists based on its soil? After the Mumbai attacks Singh stated in emphatic terms that there can be no negotiations with terrorists; then, kowtowing to pressure from Tamil Nadu politicians, he agreed to send his Foreign Minister to Colombo to push the Sri Lankan government to do exactly that. If this does not amount to double standards, what does?

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/dec/28/india-mumbai-terror-attacks

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Comment: I think it is true what they say, you reap what you sow. India can be blamed for all the terrorist atrocities which take place in Sri Lanka and according to the law of karma, the same is likely to happen to it aswell.


exactly and the same will happen to pakistan,it is already a mess anyways.cant even establish a :santa2::santa2::santa2::santa2::santa2::santa2::santa2: democracy, after almost 60 years of independence.
Reply 10
Vegitto
LMAO, you should have looked at your own flag before you decided to contribute with your 'unbiased' view on the issue.

The purpose of the thread is to put a point across. You cannot criticise others if you are doing exactly the same thing yourself. Doing so is known as hypocrisy.


yeah right and nor can you:rolleyes:
Reply 11
shriya
yeah right and nor can you:rolleyes:


I am not. I am trying to argue that India cannot tell Pakistan to take a stronger stance towards LeT/Taliban, since India itself harbours LTTE.

So let Pakistan handle the situation in Pakistan in the way it sees fit and do not talk about unnecessary 'Precision' attacks etc. within Pakistan.
Reply 12
damn OP UR lame
Reply 13
sahil112
damn OP UR lame



And you are 16 :shifty:
I'm from Pakistan, (*kinda*), and I REALLY could give less of a **** what's going on between Pakiland and Indiland. The two countries have been squabbling ever since they seperated back in 19something. It's all rather silly to be honest.
It's not Pakistan's fault that the terrorists are in bloom. Last I checked 99% of citizens in Pakistan were poor, but hard working people. (The other 1% being the goverment and terrorists....which in this case, are the same.)
India's just complaining because it lost some land to Pakistan and Bangladesh, so it feels the need to throw sh*t at the fan whenever possible. Then again, India have every right to be upset about this bombing/terrorist attack on them. If they feel that Pakistan did it, then first, prove it, then, counterattack.

I was born and raised in Britain. Pakistan and India can rot for all I care. What has Pakistan given me? Does Pakistan feed me? Does Pakistan educate me? Does Pakistan kiss my booboos better? No. England all the way.

You guys need to realise that as long as no harm has come to your family, (should they reside there) then you needn't give a :santa2::santa2::santa2::santa2:. I'm sure George Carlin would've agreed. Paki's and Indian's are essentially, the same skinned, same cricket playing, clothes wearing, moustache trimming, haggling, cheap, immigrating, farming, corrupt, medicine loving, chappati making and eating people.
Vegitto
I am not. I am trying to argue that India cannot tell Pakistan to take a stronger stance towards LeT/Taliban, since India itself harbours LTTE.

So let Pakistan handle the situation in Pakistan in the way it sees fit and do not talk about unnecessary 'Precision' attacks etc. within Pakistan.


Totally agree!
Reply 16
Vegitto
India's double standards
While India blames Pakistan for inaction after Mumbai's terror attacks, it turns a blind eye to a dangerous terror organisation

"There should be no double standards in the global fight against terrorism," the Indian prime minister Manmohan Singh declared last week. The message was intended for Pakistan, but if Dr Singh is concerned about double standards, he should look closer to home.

Earlier this month Sri Lanka's state-run Sunday Observer published an interview with the country's army chief, Sarath Fonseka, who, while expressing solidarity with India after the Mumbai attacks, severely criticised some Indian politicians for supporting the LTTE. Fonseka had particularly harsh words for the powerful Tamil Nadu politicians Vaiko Gopalsamy and P Nedumaran, calling them "jokers" and accusing them of being venal mouthpieces of the LTTE. He wondered why these men would support an organisation that had assassinated an Indian prime minister, and warned that they were a threat to India's own integrity.

Within hours of the interview's publication, Tamil Nadu's political establishment united in condemnation of General Fonseka. In a letter to the Indian prime minister, Vaiko demanded that New Delhi seek an apology from the president of Sri Lanka. "In a democracy," he wrote, "army generals do not criticise leaders of a foreign country." Sensing trouble, Sri Lanka's president issued a statement "regretting" General Fonseka's remarks, and last week the Sunday Observer's editor Dinesh Weerawansa was summarily sacked. But all of this, far from diminishing General Fonseka's claims, only casts light on India's own irresponsible role in the vortex of terror that threatens to consume Sri Lanka.

The LTTE could not have grown without the support of successive state governments of Tamil Nadu in India. Founded in 1972, the LTTE was among the many groups formed to resist the majoritarian constitution of Sri Lanka which imposed Sinhala as the "sole official language" upon the country. Tamil Tigers used Chennai as a safe haven, and their activities, as the Indian historian Ramachandra Guha wrote, "were actively helped by the state government, with New Delhi turning an indulgent blind eye". The 1987 pact signed by Rajiv Gandhi and JR Jayawardene put a temporary halt to this, and India agreed to send peacekeeping forces to Sri Lanka to help Colombo disarm the LTTE, an adventure so disastrous that one Indian journalist at the time called it "India's Vietnam". The Tamil Tigers retaliated by assassinating Rajiv Gandhi.

The LTTE is arguably the world's most dangerous terrorist organisation. It is the only terrorist outfit to have successfully carried out assassinations of two heads of government. Its international cadres regularly extort money from Tamils in Canada and Australia and even Britain. By imposing the "one family, one fighter" rule, it has enslaved the very people whose liberation it claims to fight for. It has its own air force (Air Tigers), its own navy (Sea Tigers), an elite fighting unit (the Charles Anthony Regiment) and a dedicated suicide squad (Black Tigers). The Tamil Tigers make al-Qaeda look amateurish. But because the LTTE's victims are not western, it does not elicit the same kind of response that Islamist terror groups do.

India banned the LTTE in 1992, but a report released by Jane's Information Group last year identified Tamil Nadu as the principal source of LTTE's weapons; and Fonseka was not exaggerating when he said that the Indian politicians who support the LTTE are a threat to India's own integrity—much as the men who supported the Mumbai attackers are a threat to Pakistan's. Vaiko, the LTTE's fiercest Indian supporter, was recently arrested for suggesting that India's unity would be jeopardised if it supported the Sri Lankan government against the Tamil Tigers.

New Delhi did not intervene on behalf of Tibetan protesters—even though their leader, the Dalai Lama, was described by the Indian prime minister as the "personification of non-violence" — and it was conspicuous in its silence over the protests in Burma. It has accepted that Tibet is an integral part of China, and it has struck lucrative petroleum deals with the Burmese Junta—even though protesters in both nations have relied mostly on non-violent means to make their voices heard.

But it has consistently meddled in Sri Lankan affairs, stymieing Colombo's efforts against an adversary that has used almost exclusively violent means to achieve its ends. Much of this is no doubt a consequence of coalition politics: the government in New Delhi has to do certain things to keep its allies happy. But New Delhi dismisses Pakistan's messy internal problems as an excuse which Islamabad invokes to justify its inaction against Islamist terrorists based on its soil. How can it use the same excuse to carry on its do-nothing policy against Tamil terrorists based on its soil? After the Mumbai attacks Singh stated in emphatic terms that there can be no negotiations with terrorists; then, kowtowing to pressure from Tamil Nadu politicians, he agreed to send his Foreign Minister to Colombo to push the Sri Lankan government to do exactly that. If this does not amount to double standards, what does?

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/dec/28/india-mumbai-terror-attacks

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Comment: I think it is true what they say, you reap what you sow. India can be blamed for all the terrorist atrocities which take place in Sri Lanka and according to the law of karma, the same is likely to happen to it aswell.



You are talking load of nonsense. RAjiv Gandhi was killed by LTTE for sending Indian army to help Sri Lanka Govt. Get your facts right.
Reply 17
Hippysnake
I'm from Pakistan, (*kinda*), and I REALLY could give less of a sh*t what's going on between Pakiland and Indiland. The two countries have been squabbling ever since they seperated back in 19something. It's all rather silly to be honest.
It's not Pakistan's fault that the terrorists are in bloom. Last I checked 99% of citizens in Pakistan were poor, but hard working people. (The other 1% being the goverment and terrorists....which in this case, are the same.)
India's just complaining because it lost some land to Pakistan and Bangladesh, so it feels the need to throw sh*t at the fan whenever possible. Then again, India have every right to be upset about this bombing/terrorist attack on them. If they feel that Pakistan did it, then first, prove it, then, counterattack.

I was born and raised in Britain. Pakistan and India can rot for all I care. What has Pakistan given me? Does Pakistan feed me? Does Pakistan educate me? Does Pakistan kiss my booboos better? No. England all the way.

You guys need to realise that as long as no harm has come to your family, (should they reside there) then you needn't give a :santa2::santa2::santa2::santa2:. I'm sure George Carlin would've agreed. Paki's and Indian's are essentially, the same skinned, same cricket playing, clothes wearing, moustache trimming, haggling, cheap, immigrating, farming, corrupt, medicine loving, chappati making and eating people.


And your post is relevant because? Why waste your time in writing your life story on this thread. If you have nothing to say on the topic then do not waste your time, go make a thread on how much you love being British. (And I am not implying it is bad, if you are born in Britain then your loyalty should lie with Britain)
Reply 18
rnshan
You are talking load of nonsense. RAjiv Gandhi was killed by LTTE for sending Indian army to help Sri Lanka Govt. Get your facts right.



4th Paragraph, last line, the article acknowledges it. But the bottom line is that LTTE still operates. After the death of Rajiv Gandhi, India retreated from its agreement to help Sri Lanka.

Al-Qaeda assassinated Benazir Bhutto, but that did not stop the Pakistan army from continuing its fighting in the NWFP and FATA regions. In that reagrds, one can say that Pakistan is committed to the War on Terror whereas India only really gets involved when it is threatened by these terrorists. then too it chooses to condemn only a specific group of terrorists and not the ones which are within its borders. i.e. LTTE
Vegitto
And your post is relevant because? Why waste your time in writing your life story on this thread. If you have nothing to say on the topic then do not waste your time, go make a thread on how much you love being British. (And I am not implying it is bad, if you are born in Britain then your loyalty should lie with Britain)

And this topic is relevant because...?
India's done nothing wrong. You're just trying to make it seem like they've done something wrong. And in doing so, the Indians are fighting back with logical arguements. Now, I'm all for arguing with someone named after a Dragonball Z character, but its just not worth my time, or anyone elses time. If you truly have a problem, go speak with an Indian in real life. Better yet, go to India and discuss it with a politician or two, instead of posting your patriotically blinded views on an internet forum full of people much smarter than you (of which, include plenty of Indians, might I add).

Do you want my life story. Well, about 17 odd years ago my momma and dadda....

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