The F1 Society

On channel 5 atm, there is a program called "Brits who made the modern world"

The first episode focuses on F1 and it is well worth a look at how Lotus especially were so brilliant at what they did and how the rules were so much more lax back then and encouraging revolutionary thinking by the engineers.

It is what F1 should go back to.

Yea.... No. Too many computers for that. Look at the cars of 2004 with rules only a little more lax than now.

Yeh but as was shown in qualifying today, Schumy had a lap record in 2004 of 1:24.1, Vettel just beat it today with a 1.23.9, proving that the rules are ineffective and not slowing the cars down at all in qualifying. Yet there is less overtaking, because the cars cannot overtake each other due to the aero.

A total revamp needs to be done, starting with aerodynamics to cut down on the dirty air. Or better, just scrap the generic rules applied to each team and the FIA set the weight, size and minimum lap time of a F1 car around each circuit. How a team gets that is up to them...would be awesome! V8s for light and agile, V10s for all out speed and torque and no rev limiters just a max bhp. Would be awesome.

All the rules are a lot tighter than back in 2004 and yet they are on the same pace.This should should tell you something about the ingenuity of the people in F1... 6 years before 2004 the cars were 6 seconds slower and there was no shortage of rule changes in that time either..


Awesome? F1 would become a laughing stock - go watch Wacky Races re-runs if that's what you want. If you put in a max BHP you'd still have unbelievable engines, except to keep under the bhp you'd just funnel the extra power into a kers type system for when power is below the limit just to raise it up again.

And how can you have a light agile v8 car or a heavy grunty v10 when you've set a common weight limit? Have you even thought any of your post through, just a little bit?

I just think that F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of engineering and technology. With the current rules, I think that F1 is slipping from this pinnacle and to curtail some of the rules to allow composite designs in the engines and aerodynamic features which cannot create 'dirty' air would be beneficial to the sport.

All aero features create dirty air... it's what they do! The more efficient a wing is, the dirtier the air behind it is. I think there is overkill on the engines to be honest - an engine should last qualifying and the race.


Interesting you want diffusers banned and skirts returned.. A skirt needs a diffuser to work, unless of course, you wish to bring fan cars back? The reason skirts were banned in the first place, believe it or not, was driver safety - Gilles Villeneuve being a case in point. They were so fragile - if the car suddenly lose it's under-vacuum be it humping a kurb or a nasty bump or whatever, you were up **** creek because you'd suddenly be doing 150mph round a bend with no downforce. Effectively you'd be on ice and go straight to the scene of the accident. Imagine losing your rear wing going round Eau Rouge or Blanchimont...


I understand that... just there are inherent flaws in your musings. Just acknowledging them might make you realise there isn't an easy solution to the problem.

Maybe you are right though, the answer is not in aero, but just more power!! Power is good. And I still think the V10s sounded better than the current V8s, lol!

It is difficult isn't it! Interesting though!

The easiest solution, is to give them crap tyres. Everybody rants about how awesome slippery track racing is. And what changes on wet tracks? They still have the aero but they lose ********* of mechanical grip, all of it due to the tyres having less grip. Make the tyres hard enough to last a race without needing to conserve them and ban tyre changes. There is only one tyre manufacturer so if anything like 05 Indy occurs, everyone will be similarly affected.

Hey,

Just thought as an avid F1 fan and supporter or Robert Kubica and Lewis Hamilton (Jenson too but...not really convinced with his overall fighting/working his way through the grid...so it's lewis im with) - well actually i'm a fan of everyone who isn't about to overtake lewis LOL

But hey, I'm half British and half polish...what can i say ^^
anywho...it's about half eight now and i got up at stupid o'clock to watch the melbourne grand prix.

What driver(s)/team(s) do you support?
Predictions on the next race?

things like that!

and please no rude or harsh comments to other users and especially NO DISCRIMINATION, or you WILL be kicked off the thread, reported and your rep will go down.

thanks

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And ive just thaught Hannah, 24 isn't a lot! Its still less then half of the year!!