Ex-Muslims, Why did you leave Islam?

I agree, the many different faiths and lack of faith makes this world very interesting. Now if only we could all get along and sip tea on a warm summers day.

It's very understandable why many ex-muslims have left their religion because to be fair, not all muslims have a true grasp on what Islam is and some uneducated muslim parents decide to preach it incorrectly by teaching hate towards those who aren't a mirror image of them. As well as this, there are many aspects of the quran which are being taught to muslims as though they're word for word rules to abide by when really - just like any other piece of literature - the quran uses all sorts of literary devices.

I already explained why their views are more valid, not sure why it is so hard to understand, shows your sincerity as your denial of them being more knowlegable, wheras you accept that the opinion of a docktor on medical stuff is more valid then a average humans regardless of them being able to make mistakes.

A sunni scholar will provide evidences using the Quran and authenticated sunnah/hadith which is the correct way.

Yes humans do tend to go with what they feel more comfortable with. But a true muslim, (the whole point of being muslim is to submit to god) will go against his desires and follow the instructions based on the Quran and sunnah. Eg. the quran tells muslims to not engage in sex before marriage, if muslims really interpereted based on their whims and desires they would have never interpereted the quran to be saying dont have sex before marriage, a simple example.

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True grasp on what Islam is?
I used to love the deen when it about brotherhood, helping out people (Muslims and non Muslims alike). However, the more I learnt about it, the worse it became.

Seriously, forget all the Aisha and other cliches used to discredit Islam. Look at the permissibility of concubines instead, does this come from the perfect creator? I remember watching a 3 hour lecture about that (slavery in Islam) and a lot of things were justified with "it was better than what others at the time would have done". He even had the cheek to say slavery ended partly because of Islam (lololol).

The idea that Muslims are the only ones that go to jannah is also absurd, considering less than a quarter of the world are Muslim. Tbf, some scholars say that if people don't know about the deen or have a limited understanding of the deen they will be judged "fairly"... But it also say whoever dies upon shirk will go to hell. What happens if someone dies upon shirk and doesn't know about Islam? Allah only seems just if you're a Muslim.

Every religious person believes they're 100% right, and Muslims are the same. That's why I don't feel the need to allign myself with a religion (unless I'm given undoubtable proof which I'm yet to come across)

My background? Jesus didnt know I was handing you my CV for a job.

Parents dont know. Islam is a lot of things but being respectful if you leave isnt one. (Partly culture, mainly religion <- before someone starts that argument)

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Also dont assume the reason I left Islam is due to knowledge. I read the Quran and Hadith and was extremely religious. I left because I knew too much, I saw the faults and errors within the belief system.

No hate btw but respect other peoples beliefs rather than assuming they left based on lack of knowledge.

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Lol, exactly what I mean:

'who cares about which foot is used to step into the toilet'

Where do some of these 'scholars' come up with these guidelines. They all sound particularly silly.

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You have a point there, it is silly. Most come from the hadith rather than the Quran.

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There is gender equality in Islam however people use Islam (especially saudi's) to justify their sexism.
In Islam it is not believed that only muslims will go to Jannah. In fact it seems completely irrational to say that when god has allowed so many other faiths to co-exist in the world. Everyone is judged on their way of life and their loyalty to their religion. In the end most majority religions follow the idea of one god.

A lot of scholars who give lectures are not well educated and are usually in no place to talk about religion.

Gender equality? Really? Women aren't allowed to walk around without a chaperone, if they constantly sin they're husband is allowed to beat them (it does say lightly but it's still wrong). Who keeps the men in check? Themselves...??

What about a kind hearted atheist? Or a kind hearted good idol worshipper? Why does believing in one creator make you eligible to going to heaven?

If scholars can't talk about religion who can? LOL! Maybe God should've made the religion easy for everyone to understand because it seems like no one's allowed to talk about the religion

Yeah, and we shouldn't forget that all these texts are from ages ago so they may have been altered therefore we must abide by what seems logical and humane because that's what Islam encourages but some have made religion more of a maze rather than a simple way of peace and humbleness.

Gender equality? Really? Women aren't allowed to walk around without a chaperone, if they constantly sin they're husband is allowed to beat them (it does say lightly but it's still wrong). Who keeps the men in check? Themselves...??

What about a kind hearted atheist? Or a kind hearted good idol worshipper? Why does believing in one creator make you eligible to going to heaven?

If scholars can't talk about religion who can? LOL! Maybe God should've made the religion easy for everyone to understand because it seems like no one's allowed to talk about the religion

It's very interesting you say that because every ex-muslim I know are actually people who once used to be extremely religious but attributes their loss of belief for knowing "too much" as you put it.

Actually I am very close to them and like she still puts a scarf over her head whenever she hears the call to prayer for some reason which is kind of funny - do you still do things like that out of habit or something?

Also if you don't mind my asking what was your interpretation of the Quran like? What were your take on what the Qurans stance for homosexuality, apostasy, gender equality, views on non-muslims like back when you were a muslim? (Not to debate you but curious)

And yeah I too think people should respect others belief, or lack thereof, and I do thinks its annoying whenever a ex muslim says oh I'm an ex muslim and people try and reconcile them with religion again. I do think it's okay to be curious and ask them why they left, however it's not to try and shove it back down their throat.

(I'm from a judea-christian background myself although raised by a single atheist mother but converted to Islam like 2-3 months ago). So it's nice to see the other side of things.

Men aren't allowed to beat women. What the heck have you been reading?
Because we know nothing on the earth itself could have created the universe that's why. An atheist can still go to heaven, am I God to tell you who can and who can't?

Anyone can talk about religion, but not everyone is saying something valid or correct.
Religion is easy but some people make it hard y introducing things which don't have a place within religion.

I like your train of thought, I used to believe the same until the concept of God became too difficult to believe in.

Do you believe the hadith are necessary to understand the Quran? In either case, what's your thoughts on how they were compiled and collected?
Even the Quran was compiled long after Muhammad died which (imo) leaves room for error.

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