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Original post by Trinculo
Asian kids are emotionally and socially underdeveloped to quite a degree - that's why they make no impact on the jobs market in Europe and the US. Yes, you get some finding jobs, but given their academic excellence (which I don't doubt for a second), why don't they have a monopoly on the graduate jobs market? I say it's because most are too immature and socially lacking to hold down the majority of high powered work.


They way things are going increasingly many aren't gonna need to work here.
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- Gender Studies
- Media Studies
- Cultural Studies
- Biology
- Sociology
- Psychology
- Languages
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Original post by jake4198
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- Gender Studies
- Media Studies
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The guy in your video did a Communication Studies degree at a university ranked 383rd in the US
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Original post by Trinculo
Asian kids are emotionally and socially underdeveloped to quite a degree - that's why they make no impact on the jobs market in Europe and the US. Yes, you get some finding jobs, but given their academic excellence (which I don't doubt for a second), why don't they have a monopoly on the graduate jobs market? I say it's because most are too immature and socially lacking to hold down the majority of high powered work.


You must be joking. In the US (can't speak for the UK) they dominate the technology job market, relative to their population at least.
Original post by jake4198
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- Engineering
- Medicine
- Dentistry
- Veterinary Science
- Mathematics
- Physics
- Chemistry
- Economics
- Accounting
- Nursing
- Computer Science
- Law

Bad
- English
- History
- Gender Studies
- Media Studies
- Cultural Studies
- Biology
- Sociology
- Psychology
- Languages
- Theology
- Sport Science
- Business
- Design


Why is biology in the ''bad''? It's a core science and without it we wouldn't have medicine or vet med?
This post is quite short sighted. The degree you do is not as important as what you do at university, and by that I mean not bumming around living the uni life but actively seeking opportunities: within the community, networking opportunities, entrepreneurial opportunities, work experience placements/internships, etc.

A common theme in those who end up with no job after graduation is that they didn't bother to do any of the above and thought that a 2:1 in something would lead them into a great job with minimal effort on their part. Truth is, it's not that special anymore.

So no, DO study what you want but be prepared to set yourself up with the right background for whatever job you'd like to eventually land in. 70-80% of grad jobs are non-specifc with regards to subject studied, but they sure as hell will be specific about the other areas of your CV

Caveat emptor: of course research careers before you think about university as some will require a specific professional degree, like Engineering, Medicine, Architecture..

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Original post by jake4198
Good
- Engineering
- Medicine
- Dentistry
- Veterinary Science
- Mathematics
- Physics
- Chemistry
- Economics
- Accounting
- Nursing
- Computer Science
- Law

Bad
- English
- History
- Gender Studies
- Media Studies
- Cultural Studies
- Biology
- Sociology
- Psychology
- Languages
- Theology
- Sport Science
- Business
- Design


Yeah, so all the senior managers within corporations that studied History, English, Languages etc are all on crack and are living some form of illusion.

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Disagree with most of what youve said OP.

Except students should do research into what they are going to do with their degree after and make sure it opens the doors for where they need to go.

A significant % of grad jobs are still non degree specific, so its up to them as to whether they wnat to go that way and get a good degree in something they like.

Why do you care so much?
Original post by Princepieman
Yeah, so all the senior managers within corporations that studied History, English, Languages etc are all on crack and are living some form of illusion.

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Not to mention all the CEOs with their useless MBAs
Original post by jake4198
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- Medicine
- Dentistry
- Veterinary Science
- Mathematics
- Physics
- Chemistry
- Economics
- Accounting
- Nursing
- Computer Science
- Law

Bad
- English
- History
- Gender Studies
- Media Studies
- Cultural Studies
- Biology
- Sociology
- Psychology
- Languages
- Theology
- Sport Science
- Business
- Design


I'd disagree with having biology on that list.It is by no accounts a doss subject like gender studies is.Its also useful to society as it provides insights into medicine.Sure its not that well paid but could be useful in future once they get all that genetic engineering stuff going properly.
Why did you put biology as a bad degree? It's a science lol
Psychology can be quite useful as well

The only subjects that deserve to be on there are gender studies, media/theatre studies, baking technology management, viticulture and oenology etc...
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Original post by Student403
You must be joking. In the US (can't speak for the UK) they dominate the technology job market, relative to their population at least.

In the main, those would be Asian by ethnicity, not by nationality. They'd be predominately American by upbringing, and have more in the way of social skills and emotional maturity.
Original post by Trinculo
In the main, those would be Asian by ethnicity, not by nationality. They'd be predominately American by upbringing, and have more in the way of social skills and emotional maturity.


Ah thought you meant by ethnicity.
Original post by Bristol Dawah
They way things are going increasingly many aren't gonna need to work here.


The way what's going? This doesn't even mean anything.

Name me one country in Asia that has anything like a history of civilization that's superior to anything anywhere else in the world - especially your "terrible" West.
Original post by jake4198
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- Engineering
- Medicine
- Dentistry
- Veterinary Science
- Mathematics
- Physics
- Chemistry
- Economics
- Accounting
- Nursing
- Computer Science
- Law

Bad
- English
- History
- Gender Studies
- Media Studies
- Cultural Studies
- Biology
- Sociology
- Psychology
- Languages
- Theology
- Sport Science
- Business
- Design

History and English (especially at RG unis) are two competitive courses to get into and are respected by employers. 70% of graduate jobs don't require or prefer a specific degree- there are plenty of history and English grads in top jobs like law, accounting, research, banking, politics etc...

It's just that some history and English grads aren't focused enough on securing a good graduate job and dont build up good work experience and extra curricular activities and therefore aren't as employable. Engineering and medicine are exceptions to the whole thing because they are vocational degrees which are designed to prepare you for a specific career.
Original post by LawStudent7x
I see your point 100%.

People will say why are you bothered but if you are doing a degree worth £50,000 and then get a minimum wage job why should another student have to pay for YOUR decision to have a "good time".

By all means do whatever gender study crap you want but make sure you pay off the student loan you accumulated and not sit and let others pay for your pathetic decision


How many people do you think are studying undergraduate degrees in Gender Studies in the UK?
Original post by Plantagenet Crown
I feel like this is going to turn into one of those nauseating threads bashing anyone who doesn't do a STEM subject.
Looks like it's begun :smile:

Original post by jake4198
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- Veterinary Science
- Mathematics
- Physics
- Chemistry
- Economics
- Accounting
- Nursing
- Computer Science
- Law

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- English
- History
- Gender Studies
- Media Studies
- Cultural Studies
- Biology
- Sociology
- Psychology
- Languages
- Theology
- Sport Science
- Business
- Design
Original post by jake4198
Good
- Engineering
- Medicine
- Dentistry
- Veterinary Science
- Mathematics
- Physics
- Chemistry
- Economics
- Accounting
- Nursing
- Computer Science
- Law

Bad
- English
- History
- Gender Studies
- Media Studies
- Cultural Studies
- Biology
- Sociology
- Psychology
- Languages
- Theology
- Sport Science
- Business
- Design


What about those who do your so-called bad degrees so they can then teach that subject?
I think you'll find that English teachers are pretty necessary.


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Would you say Primary Education is a terrible degree?
I'm planning on becoming a primary school teacher so the degree is useful. But the issue with it is that the degree isn't STEM and the salary isn't much.

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