Failed final year on medicine! :'(

Can you send me the link please? x

Well she did ask but they've said no.. She even took the case to solicitors who told us she'd only have a 40% chance of getting in.. That case wasn't successful.. She's tried really really hard and she is A* student! Just the last year didnt go so well x

Well she did ask but they've said no.. She even took the case to solicitors who told us she'd only have a 40% chance of getting in.. That case wasn't successful.. She's tried really really hard and she is A* student! Just the last year didnt go so well x

I'm not sure to be honest but they didnt accept her.. She was at the University of Leicester; but i'm just wondering if they didnt accept her will she able to retake teh final year at a different uni? Is that possible? x

I always thought universities did pretty much whatever they could to make sure people got through 5th year, and if not, were pretty generous with allowing retakes of the year.

I also thought this. Since they (and the government) has already invested over 200,000 pounds for this student, I am really surprised that they are being so strict at the final step. Although, I should mention that for her appeal to go through she would've needed some ridiculous extenuating circumstances to rationalize the fail.

The final step involves unleashing a newly minted doctor onto the world. The examiners have at the back of their minds that this newbie could end up looking after their family, money aside, they need to be safe. There is already a mortality spike in August. Nobody owes you a degree...Puts the whole complaining thing into perspective. I'm not surprised at all.

In fact, I think thats one of the criteria to pass the MRCP...

The final step involves unleashing a newly minted doctor onto the world. The examiners have at the back of their minds that this newbie could end up looking after their family, money aside, they need to be safe. There is already a mortality spike in August. Nobody owes you a degree...Puts the whole complaining thing into perspective. I'm not surprised at all.

In fact, I think thats one of the criteria to pass the MRCP...

What is?

Hmm well, I can't speak for my medical school but I know that at Nottingham and at Trinity College Dublin, they are desperate to get you out of the door. If you've passed 4 years of medicine then you are clearly a capable medical student that should graduate, if you fail year 5 it's not because you're not up to scratch, nobody "plateaus" at year 5, it's usually because of ECs or just bad circumstances as OP mentions.

Hundreds of thousands of pounds of NHS money plus 5 years of the students' time and the university's time don't seem worth throwing away because of bad circumstances.

At Trinity they round up all the people who don't pass 5th year for academic reasons and give them intensive remediation then push them through the exam again and few if any fail that. Trinity College is not known for being a lenient university in any shape or form so I would be surprised and a bit concerned if other medschools weren't the same..

However, unfortunately the failure rate in medicine is always one that causes a lot of controversy, in that 2-3% of the year seem to fall at the final hurdle and graduate with a BMedSci instead of an MBChB, the former of which is effectively useless (especially at Warwick where everyone has a prior degree). I've never understood why this is the case.

Would you trust this person to treat one of your family members.

Did you mean to quote me, as I can't see how your reply is relevant to my question?

What's the criteria needed to pass MRCP that he's talking about?

I did - what I believe he's saying is that the criteria the examiners of the practical part of the MRCP use is to ask themselves whether they would trust the candidate to treat one of their family members.

Would you suggest that instead they graduate with an MBChB, but with no right to practice? Kind of in a similar vein to normal degree students graduating with a non-honours BSc?