Do You Support Scottish Independence?

Here is the question.

For all intents and purposes Scotland has not been a country for over 300 years, merely an area of land within the country known as 'The United Kingdom'.

Any referendum should be done UK wide, as it will have far reaching implications for everyone in the UK.

Edit: Also I think it would be better to become a federation, with each state within the UK having its own parliament and Westminster acting as the federal parliament.

Yes - it is common sense.

There is nothing wrong with a nation running its own affairs with its own state. That being said, a bit sceptical of the EU. But that can always be tackled during independence.

What about Scotland's right to self determination.

5 million Scots being forced to be part of a Union they do not want to be a part of would not be good for the country as a whole.

Bristol couldn't go

The Scottish people self-determine as part of a democratic United Kingdom. "Scotland" does not have any right to self-determination, just the Scottish people - who are also the British people.

Anyway, I suspect the British people would vote against EU membership given a referendum in the past 10 years. It doesn't particularly bother me that they're not given one.



All states are only held together through the force of the government. If a right to secede is to be assumed, it must be justified. Norfolk couldn't go, Bristol couldn't go - why should Scotland be permitted to?

What about Scotland's right to self determination. 5 million Scots being forced to be part of a Union they do not want to be a part of would not be good for the country as a whole. Scotland would also be the place that would have the biggest change so the choice of independence should belong. I don't support independence, I just think only those in Scotland should be allowed to vote on it.

The argument that the rest of the UK should have a say in this is silly.

That'd be like having an EU-wide vote on whether the UK should join the Euro.

So by your logic, if the people of Cornwall decided to hold a referendum on independence, no one else in the UK should have a say on the matter?

Why do you think this is wrong?

Like I said for all intents and purposes, Scotland has not been a country for 300 years, merely a province within the UK.

What is a 'Scot' anyway? Someone who happens to be living north of the English border at the time of the referendum? We are all UK citizens. There is no such thing as a Scottish national, only British national.

Right to self determination. What, they don't have that already? I must be imagining Scotland having it's own parliament and a separate justice system, with different laws. Not to mention MPs that sit in Westminster.

Erecting a border between Scotland and England will have huge implications for the entire UK. Any vote should be UK wide.

A bit unfair considering that England's population outnumbers Scotland's ten to one, which, incidentally, is why numerous Conservative governments have beem imposed on Scotland despite their well-documented unpopularity north of the border (there was one tory MP in Scotland last time I checked).

I do, however, think that in the case of a region/nation having a referendum on independence from a larger nation-state, it's folly to suggest that anyone other than the inhabitants of the nation/region in question should have a say on it.

Like I said for all intents and purposes, Scotland has not been a country for 300 years, merely a province within the UK.

What is a 'Scot' anyway? Someone who happens to be living north of the English border at the time of the referendum? We are all UK citizens. There is no such thing as a Scottish national, only British national.

Right to self determination. What, they don't have that already? I must be imagining Scotland having it's own parliament and a separate justice system, with different laws. Not to mention MPs that sit in Westminster.

Erecting a border between Scotland and England will have huge implications for the entire UK. Any vote should be UK wide.

The Scottish people self-determine as part of a democratic United Kingdom. "Scotland" does not have any right to self-determination, just the Scottish people - who are also the British people.

UK is a joke. England occupies part of Ireland, Scotland and Wales. That is the reality. The Scottish people are not British, they are Scots. Scotland should be ruled by Scots, not by mainly English people in England. It is an extended empire, and Scots are waking up. Freedom is in sight, and in 2014 we will win back what has been a long drawn out battle for our national freedom. Scotland will be ruled form Edinburgh, and eventually Wales from Cardiff, Northern Ireland from Dublin and England from London.

All nations on this planet and their ancestors they represent have a right to sit equal with a voice at table of society of our world. Money and economical stability may rule alot but not all of us. Life is more than just a car, home and money in the bank! Its who we are while we are here that counts and fighting and understanding and listening to the voices of of those who feel there voice is being drowned out by other nations thinking there empire is far superior. Why should the interests of Scots at world summits be spoken by an English person living in England? This is Scotland and those who want to represent Scotland should be part of the Scottish nation. No problem with an English person representing Scotland and living in Scotland, but representing Scotland and being unconnected from Scotland, with a non-scottish flag and representing non-scottish interests is unacceptable to true scots. Scotland is older than the union and we have the blood of rebels in our veins, we will be free no matter what unionists say like you!

There's nothing wrong with it happening, but I think there's something morally wrong with seeking it. Just as there's nothing wrong with a country being composed entirely of people of one ethnicity - but to actively seek that is repugnant.