Why do Afghan men hate women???why do the women let them?

Original post by Chloe xxx

Saudi Arabia holds these crazy beliefs and is far from underdeveloped or uneducated.

It's still developing...

Original post by Chloe xxx

It is like that because they have an Islamic dictatorship in practice.

There's nothing Islamic about it. The whole regime is corrupt. The most minor offense of their regime is that it's a monarchy. Islam does not recognise a Muslim nation ruled by a monarch

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Original post by JackG1

Stop being naive.
Which country is well known for not letting women drive or work? Saudi Arabia, a predominantly Islamic state.

Because the Qur'an says that women aren't allowed to drive or work :rolleyes:

Oh wait...

/sarcasm

shariahlaw4uk

Original post by de_monies

It's still developing...

There's nothing Islamic about it. The whole regime is corrupt. The most minor offense of their regime is that it's a monarchy. Islam does not recognise a Muslim nation ruled by a monarch

BIB- This may be right, very strange that the Saudi and other Muslim nations take Islam so seriously yet forget about these very basic Islamic rules...then again, maybe its just down to the picking and choosing it seem 98% of Muslims do anyway.

I think that you have this opinion because you see Islam as so peaceful and the Saudi government body clearly does not.

From TSR we can concur that the 3% of UK muslims know everything about Islam and those living in the Islamic Holy State (? 98%) and muslim countries throughout the globe know nothing.

:lolwut:

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No Man

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Original post by Chloe xxx

BIB- This may be right, very strange that the Saudi and other Muslim nations take Islam so seriously yet forget about these very basic Islamic rules...then again, maybe its just down to the picking and choosing it seem 98% of Muslims do anyway.

I think that you have this opinion because you see Islam as so peaceful and the Saudi government body clearly does not.

From TSR we can concur that the 3% of UK muslims know everything about Islam and those living in the Islamic Holy State (? 98%) and muslim countries throughout the globe know nothing.

:lolwut:

If you remove Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia, and Afghanistan from the equation there isn't that much religious unrest in Islamic countries.

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Original post by No Man

If you remove Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia, and Afghanistan from the equation there isn't that much religious unrest in Islamic countries.

And all of these countries have had lots of meddling with from the powers that be above - The US. Or in Afghanistan's case, the US and the USSR

Pakistan wasn't in unrest until recently - again US meddling

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Original post by de_monies

And all of these countries have had lots of meddling with from the powers that be above - The US. Or in Afghanistan's case, the US and the USSR

Pakistan wasn't in unrest until recently - again US meddling

Yeah, the US is to blame for the backward treatment of women:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/04/afghan-law-legalizes-rape-poses-problem-obama-clinton/

'Such a law runs contrary to the stated goals of the U.S. mission in Afghanistan -- to pursue human rights and to help liberate women from religious oppression.'

:congrats:

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Original post by de_monies

And all of these countries have had lots of meddling with from the powers that be above - The US. Or in Afghanistan's case, the US and the USSR

Pakistan wasn't in unrest until recently - again US meddling

'Afghanistan's constitution, which was passed in 2004, calls for equal rights for all men and women. But the constitution also says that no law can contradict the laws of Islam. And in situations where the constitution lacks provisions, courts are allowed to use Islamic law, which critics say does not allow for equal rights.'

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Original post by Chloe xxx

Yeah, the US is to blame for the backward treatment of women:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/04/afghan-law-legalizes-rape-poses-problem-obama-clinton/

'Such a law runs contrary to the stated goals of the U.S. mission in Afghanistan -- to pursue human rights and to help liberate women from religious oppression.'

:congrats:

Firstly that's fox news. Secondly, this kind of stuff is bound to happen when a country is in a state of war. Stupid laws like this are going to be made. We've had stupid laws in this country made after 9/11 but this is on a whole new level of stupid

Besides, it's a new law. It's not like it existed before 2009, so quite clearly in the rest of it's history, rape was never legal

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Original post by Chloe xxx

'Afghanistan's constitution, which was passed in 2004, calls for equal rights for all men and women. But the constitution also says that no law can contradict the laws of Islam. And in situations where the constitution lacks provisions, courts are allowed to use Islamic law, which critics say does not allow for equal rights.'

Rape has never been accepted in any sense of the word in Islam

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Original post by de_monies

Firstly that's fox news. Secondly, this kind of stuff is bound to happen when a country is in a state of war. Stupid laws like this are going to be made. We've had stupid laws in this country made after 9/11 but this is on a whole new level of stupid

Besides, it's a new law. It's not like it existed before 2009, so quite clearly in the rest of it's history, rape was never legal

What has this law got to do with the war?

Its quite clear why it was put into practice, they were hardly taking laws on women and marital rape from the west, were they?

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Original post by de_monies

Rape has never been accepted in any sense of the word in Islam

In Islam, a husband is entitled to sex with his wife when he wishes, aswell as with any slave girls, his right hand possess, afterall :wink:

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genia

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Original post by Chloe xxx

What has this law got to do with the war?

Its quite clear why it was put into practice, they were hardly taking laws on women and marital rape from the west, were they?

are you a girl chloe?.. if you are

pics please hehehehe

:wink:

Reply 54

Original post by Chloe xxx

What has this law got to do with the war?

Its quite clear why it was put into practice, they were hardly taking laws on women and marital rape from the west, were they?

Original post by Chloe xxx

In Islam, a husband is entitled to sex with his wife when he wishes, aswell as with any slave girls, his right hand posses, afterall :wink:

AFAIK, Saudi Arabia is the only other country that has a similar law, and that provoked widespread outcry within Saudi Arabia and outside of Saudi Arabia. Rape is not accepted in Islam at all.

http://www.jannah.org/sisters/womqursun.html

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Original post by de_monies

AFAIK, Saudi Arabia is the only other country that has a similar law, and that provoked widespread outcry within Saudi Arabia and outside of Saudi Arabia. Rape is not accepted in Islam at all.

http://www.jannah.org/sisters/womqursun.html

Defenders always say 'rape is not accepted in Islam'- where does it mention this in the Quran? Where infact, is rape even mentioned?

' If a husband expresses his desire for sexual intercourse with his wife, and asks her to fulfill his need, then she should fulfill her husband’s desire, and she has no right to refuse him or deprive him of his need (unless of course if she is undergoing her monthly menstruation period or is down with illness.)

Islam encourages and insists on chastity and fidelity. Islam prohibits and condemn illicit sexual relations, extra-maritial affairs, pre-marriage sex, fornication, adultery, prostitution, pornography and promiscuity. It is for this reason that a wife is bound to fulfill her husband’s sexual desires so as to prevent him form straying.

Narrarted Abu Huraira

Allah’s Apostle (Pbuh) said, ” If a husband calls his wife to his bed (i.e. to have sexual relations) and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning.” (Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol. 4 Hadith No. 460 & Sahih Muslim Vol. 2 Hadith No. 3368)'

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No Man

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Original post by de_monies

And all of these countries have had lots of meddling with from the powers that be above - The US. Or in Afghanistan's case, the US and the USSR

Pakistan wasn't in unrest until recently - again US meddling

What do you mean by meddling exactly? Because I can think of a lot of other Islamic countries that have been 'meddled' with, but aren't like the ones I listed.

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Original post by de_monies

AFAIK, Saudi Arabia is the only other country that has a similar law, and that provoked widespread outcry within Saudi Arabia and outside of Saudi Arabia. Rape is not accepted in Islam at all.

http://www.jannah.org/sisters/womqursun.html

It continues:

The Messenger of Allah (swt) said: By him in whose hand is my life, when a man calls his wife to his bed, and she does not respond, the One Who is in the heaven is displeased with her untill he (her husband) is pleased with her. (Sahih Muslim Vol. 2 Hadith No. 3367)

Narrated Taiq ibn Ali

Allah’s Messenger (Pbuh) said, ” When a man calls his wife to satisfy his desire she must go to him even if she is occupied at the oven.” (Al Tirmidhi Hadith No. 1160 & Ibn Ma’jah Hadith No. 4165)

From all the above mentioned Ahadith, it is Wajib upon the wife to fulfill the desire of her husband whenever he wishes. If the relationship between the husband and the wife is truly based on Islamic principles, in which both of them treat each other with love, affection, kindness, fulfilling all Islamic desires and settling all matters with mutual agreement and understanding, the question of the wife refusing the sexual desire of the husband does not arise. Nor does the question arise of the husband being insistent or getting perturbed at her not wanting to have sex.

http://noman47.wordpress.com/queries-on-islam-by-dr-zakir-naik/does-a-wife-have-the-right-to-refuse-sex-with-her-husband/

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Original post by No Man

What do you mean by meddling exactly? Because I can think of a lot of other Islamic countries that have been 'meddled' with, but aren't like the ones I listed.

Meddled with in the sense that the countries been bombed for the sake of the Americans, or that the government's seemingly don't give a damn about the civilian population etc...

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