Is wearing make-up a 'betrayal'? One woman's transformation sparks online backlash

Queue that Asian guy who sued his wife for deceiving him and giving him an ugly baby.

I don't wear makeup either, I will use that olay 'mousturisor with a hint of foundation' stuff and sometimes a bit of eyeliner/blusher but I dont see the point in attempting to change what I look like. I know what you mean about beuaty being presentstion. Years ago I used to feel down because people thought I was ugly. Back at college they did this facial attractiveness topic in class for a biology sexual selection topic. We had a teacher who wasn't all there lol and the whole class decided to anonymously rate each others looks out of 10 (we wrote the number on a piece of paper for each person then folded it up). We all agreed as obviously we were curious, I wish Id have opted out lol! The teacher then wrote the numbers on the board at the side of everyones name. I got mainly 4's and a few 5's..the lowest in the class. I didnt give anyone below a 6 as I felt it was too harsh lol! So I felt really down about it for ages college wasn't my favourite time!

Thinking back on it though I don't let it bother me because I didnt present myself well at all. I had a curly hairstyle comming just below my eyes which looked like a lads crop cut. I wore a baseball cap, no makeup, tracksuit top, jeans and trainers and had acne lol. Plus I didnt really speak to the others I only had one friend. Im not saying Id be good looking or anything if I had dressed well but I cant see how Id have been much worse than the others if Id have had some sense of style/identity rather than looking like a tramp. Obviously facial features/genetics play a big part in looking good but so does presentation. At the end of the day though makeup/style and all that are so temporary/superficial they can be removed in an instant thats why Ive never took much pride in clothes/makeup and I cant be bothered with jewellry at all. Yet oddly enough I like to be healthy/physically fit and keep in shape and can't understand people who don't. It seems most people are the opposite and place more value on clothes/style.

Appearance is generally a massive thing when you are young though (to most people) for a lot its as though its the end of the world if they are not attractive. I don't know why though because like you said a lot is down to presentation. As you get older and get to know more people you can put it into perspective more. You realise that everyone is insecure about something but they just look how they look and thats it lol. When we get a lot older and start getting health/family problems we will probably realise that our health is the main concern.

'We all know that armpit hair, hairy legs, arm hair, monobrows, facial hair etc can do to transform a woman from ugly to average. Do you believe that that hair removal is a 'betrayal' because it hides a woman's true self?'



If you're going to be campaigning for women to be 'all natural' then you better get used to hairy legs mate because the preceptions of what 'natural beauty' is so distorted that I doubt most would even be attracted to it anymore.

No. Removing hair is taking care of yourself. Make-up is adding something ontop to hide. Totally different things.

Why is removing hair taking care of yourself?

Does having hair on your arms make you unhygenic suddenly?

Nah I didn't mean it in the unhygenic way, I just meant it's taking something away rather than adding something else ontop.

Fondation takes away the appareance spots

Your argument is really rubbish mate, give up.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2454391/Is-wearing-make-betrayal-One-womans-dramatic-transformation-sparks-online-backlash.html

We all know the power makeup can do to transform a woman's face from ugly or average to good looking. Do you believe these images demonstrate that makeup is a 'betrayal' because it hides a woman's true self?

So many guys (to save twenty or so posts - not all guys) patronisingly say "I prefer women without make-up" or "I want a naturally beautiful women who doesn't need make-up" or even worse, "women don't need make-up. "

Then they go onto cite some celebrities/ people they believe are beautiful and don't need to wear any, who we should all aspire to be like, and give some examples.

Only 99.9% of the time they're pictures of women who have perfected the application of "flawless-looking natural make-up" that doesn't make it glaringly obvious they're actually wearing any. If you try typing in "[name + no make-up]" you'll see posts of guys waxing lyrical about how great ___ looks with no make-up on... only girls will spot straight away they have quite a lot of concealer and some eyeliner going on.

What guys mean to say is "I prefer women with make-up to make them flawless but not enough to notice they're wearing any."

Oh dear, you're really going to twist my words like that?...

PHYSICALLY taking away, not taking away the appearance.

Adding or removing makes little difference.

I don't see how spending hours yanking out hair from your skin is more natural than rubbing some pink vaseline onto your lips

Nah I didn't mean it in the unhygenic way, I just meant it's taking something away rather than adding something else ontop.

Yay, let's insult and put down women who wear make up thanks to pressures from the media in the first place...

We can't ****ing win.



Are tattoos a betrayal? Are piercings a betrayal? Is nail varnish a betrayal?

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Sit down.

Not talking about Vaseline either. The thread is talking about how makeup like foundation and that changes your appearance a lot. Vaseline doesn't exactly chance your looks.