'Abandon Christianity, convert to Islam, or suffer the consequences.'

I agree... to an extent. But there are no religions other than Islam for which there is an inbuilt death penalty for apostates and I think that in itself is telling. In fact I think that the vast majority of Christians, Jews, Sikhs, Hindus etc would be against compulsion in religion; yes they will try to raise their children in the faith and might try to convert others, they might even go so far as to proclaim that those who don't convert to Christianity will burn in the fires of hell. But, and this is the important bit, I would be hugely surprised to hear a person of any religion other than Islam threatening physical violence in this life should their target audience not convert.

What is the reason for this difference? I believe it stems from the combined political and religious motives of Islamic extremists. To say that their actions aren't religiously motivated is blind and to say they are not Muslims is ignorant. But this isn't all there is to it. Political motivations play a part too. We will die on earth because of the political side and burn in hell because of the religious side (and the religious side of things is what justifies our death on earth - we are nothing but infidels). It's a clever little system.

If you show people a small portion of the truth sometimes they miss the point completely and start worshipping you.

You were given distrust of your body and were mesmerised with inattention and now you are bored with civilisation.

There are people on here who think that the sun shines out of Al-Qaeda's arse, and endorse what they are doing.

I agree with the second paragraph, but not with the first. Conversion at swordpoint is not the sole preserve of Islam.

So there are other religions which teach that one must kill those who convert away from the religion?

Islam doesn't do that as far as i am aware. The people who preach it surely misinterpret, (if that is possible in a religion. Maybe the word should just be interpret) whatever the passage says?

And go back through history and look at some of the evil things Christianity did to non-believers. Eevn in the bible, there was all that town-destroying, stoning, poetic justice(with that Jezebel). Then in reality, there was all of the witch-burning...all religions have a murderous streak. Even the last pope added to millions of deaths in africa with his lies about AIDS all because of his religion. It isn't just Islam

Islam doesn't do that as far as i am aware. The people who preach it surely misinterpret, (if that is possible in a religion. Maybe the word should just be interpret) whatever the passage says?

According to Shariah law (Islamic law) the penalty for apostates is death. Do you deny that?

The Hadiths are quite clear on it... apostascy is a crime punishable by death.



No - but 95% of it is these days.

Death is the punishment for loads of things in loads of religions though. What we object to then, is Islam actually sticking to its religious rules?

Absolutely - though as I have said before, many Christians believe in "mosaic law" or the notion that the OT has been superceded entirely by the Gospel and Jesus's New covenant with man. As such they can often sidestep much of the "Punishment" malarky with analogy to Jesus's actions.

But yes - if most religions have odious teachings, clearly the objection to Islam is that it sticks to those teachings more closely.



It's fairly clear. So clear indeed that you would be hard pushed to find an Imam who would deny that death is the required punishment for apostasy and homosexuality under Sharia Law.

Well if it isn't ambiguous, then who are we to attack it?

Who are we to attack the notion that it's necessary to kill people for their beliefs? Rational human beings who believe in freedom of thought perhaps?



It isn't their fault... but they still agree with it and subscribe to it.

If someone supported the KKK's morality, but didn't CREATE that morality do we say "we shouldn't blame you, it's not YOUR fault that your charter says whites should be a master race"?



Depends which religion.



That simply doesnt follow. Extremism and religiousity is on the rise, especially in Britain. It's well known that many of the younger generation are MORE devout and religious than those who are 40 or so. The notion that the inhumanity of Islam is being slowly bred out of people in the west simply isnt true.



Absolutely.



You think over 3 or 4 billion people are "brainwashed" to an extent to excuse them from all blame for the beliefs they hold?

Again - would the same apply to racists?



Well you attackt the ideas, and also the beliefs of the people who subscribe to those ideas. unfortunately, an attack on a person's beliefs and moral system is in many ways an attack on them...

we should reserve our disgust for ... not all muslims, or the religion itself.

My main point i suppose, is to denounce the actual religion