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Hedgehunter
Yeh..thats the one when you talk about adding HCl in excess to CuO powder..which makes Cu2SO4 after filtration! then evapourate all the water to get the crystals....Isnt it?



basically react the chemicals

filter

heat the solution gently, for evaporation + to make the soln more concentrated

wash

dry (i forgot this bit grr!)

Leave to cool, crystals form
simcard2007
basically react the chemicals

filter

heat the solution gently, for evaporation + to make the soln more concentrated

wash

dry (i forgot this bit grr!)

Leave to cool, crystals form


I dont think you have to dry of this one...i mean the crystals are hydrated copper sulphate...
ethanol --> ethene + water

i found one source saying sulphuric or phosphoirc acid can be used, with 170 degrees celcius: http://www.chemguide.co.uk/mechanisms/elim/dhethanol.html


and another with alluminum oxide:http://www.gcsescience.com/o44.htm
simcard2007
ethanol --> ethene + water

i found one source saying sulphuric or phosphoirc acid can be used, with 170 degrees celcius: http://www.chemguide.co.uk/mechanisms/elim/dhethanol.html


and another with alluminum oxide:http://www.gcsescience.com/o44.htm



So which one is it ???? lol..... those bloody chemists they cant make up their minds.

aluminium oxide

or

Phosphoric acid ?? anyone know for sure?
Hedgehunter
I dont think you have to dry of this one...i mean the crystals are hydrated copper sulphate...



said a dry sample so idk
You do have to leave it on a windowsill to dry...
from ethanol to ethene
its 170C and conc H2SO4
i said filter but didnt say anything about drying them
i said heating them up..
Reply 68
Dry crystals were needed – surely this means that there should be no water of crystallisation.

IE. Heat the water out gently, but leaving it to naturally evaporate won’t produce dry crystals.
Reply 69

was it oxygen and carbon dioxide in the first question? and it was endothermic but not sure which way that sent the equilibrium putting heat in...also what was the answer to the question about methybenzene - think i forgot about that in my revision!
H+ and Cl- iions disassociate in water due to polar water molecules so it is acidic, but the HCl molecules stay as molecules in methylbenzene so it is not acidic.
oxygen was the element,
CO2 was the other one
Reply 72
helllllll yeah ive done better than i thought :biggrin:
Reply 73
Gren1TI
Dry crystals were needed surely this means that there should be no water of crystallisation.

IE. Heat the water out gently, but leaving it to naturally evaporate won’t produce dry crystals.



If ye wish for crystals, ye must have water of CRYSTALLISATION. Therefore, (as we did a lot of these is class), dry means exactly that, dry. So you can dry it with absorban material, such as blotting paper. This ensures that there is no water left outside of the crystal lattice.
chemcat
If ye wish for crystals, ye must have water of CRYSTALLISATION. Therefore, (as we did a lot of these is class), dry means exactly that, dry. So you can dry it with absorban material, such as blotting paper. This ensures that there is no water left outside of the crystal lattice.


Ok, its just i was under the impression that crystals were, by their very nature hydrated and if you were to 'dry' them fully they would cease to be crystals...
Reply 75
hi did anyone do the june 2010 exam for edexcel igcse chemistry paper 2H. if you did, what colour did u put for the flame test on question one. did u put bright yellow coz thts what i put. i hope im right.

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