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Carr Saunders Halls, LSE
London School of Economics
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Warwick or LSE for Maths

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Original post by thegeek888
1. I am a mature student and have had experience with A-Levels before, but now I am doing completely different subjects compared to a decade ago. So I am not just a teen. :s-smilie:

2. I am also studying for Professional exams online with ACA Masters and will gain CERTIFICATE IN FINANCE, ACCOUNTING & BUSINESS (CFAB) and they have 4 sessions a year for the Professional papers and 2 sessions for the Advanced papers. So effectively, I will be a part-qualified Accountant with ICAEW before I apply for a Law degree. So I am a professional too.

3. I wonder what career would the OP have by accepting Warwick Maths? LSE Data Science is a much better course for a career. I have got an interest in Internet, Software and Hardware as well as Law. So I am not a complete novice, I know what I am talking about.

4. Data Science careers in the USA pay the most and they also have the most shortages in recruiting Data Science graduates, so salaries can hit £200,000 within 5 years of graduation.

5. So your question it would be a loss is irrelevant, as the OP would earn a lot more by going to LSE.

Re: 1/2 - being a hypothetical future employee of those fields of interest is no different than a school leaver expressing those same beliefs. Your posts are irresponsible and smack of just roleplaying being some kind of tech guru slash investment banker without any substance, and ultimately are misleading. The value of a full scholarship for an international student to a university that is at worst equivalent or slightly below another is significantly higher than you are suggesting, and when the university in question is better for the specific subject area than the other, it completely skews the scale in favour of the university offering the scholarship. This does not change because you have some kind of mental boner for LSE and hoping you become a billionaire in future.

3 - Warwick is a target university for investment banks just like LSE, and is widely represented in the finance and related sectors - as much so as LSE. This has been the case since the 70s. Also if you have an "interest" in those areas then surely you will know that the LSE course has existed for all of about 2 years, whereas Warwick maths has been their flagship degree since inception and has been placing graduates in industry with a fantastic track record (and academia) for the last 50+ years?

4 - We are not in the US, the OP expressed no specific interest in the US, and there are a host of other factors that will attenuate those earnings in the US (not least the massive increase in cost of living due to health insurance costs as this is rarely provided comprehensively by ones company there now, the cost of effectively needing to own a car if you live anywhere that is not NYC/Chicago/San Francisco, and the overall higher costs of food, entertainment, etc, relative to the UK due to these things being more localised with widespread food deserts etc).

5 - This is extremely relevant because if the OP can't afford the degree in the first place, or spends the entire degree working like a dog during their studies to try and afford it and gets a 3rd, whatever fantasy world you have conjured for them will never come to be.
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Carr Saunders Halls, LSE
London School of Economics
London
Original post by artful_lounger
Re: 1/2 - being a hypothetical future employee of those fields of interest is no different than a school leaver expressing those same beliefs. Your posts are irresponsible and smack of just roleplaying being some kind of tech guru slash investment banker without any substance, and ultimately are misleading. The value of a full scholarship for an international student to a university that is at worst equivalent or slightly below another is significantly higher than you are suggesting, and when the university in question is better for the specific subject area than the other, it completely skews the scale in favour of the university offering the scholarship. This does not change because you have some kind of mental boner for LSE and hoping you become a billionaire in future.

3 - Warwick is a target university for investment banks just like LSE, and is widely represented in the finance and related sectors - as much so as LSE. This has been the case since the 70s. Also if you have an "interest" in those areas then surely you will know that the LSE course has existed for all of about 2 years, whereas Warwick maths has been their flagship degree since inception and has been placing graduates in industry with a fantastic track record (and academia) for the last 50+ years?

4 - We are not in the US, the OP expressed no specific interest in the US, and there are a host of other factors that will attenuate those earnings in the US (not least the massive increase in cost of living due to health insurance costs as this is rarely provided comprehensively by ones company there now, the cost of effectively needing to own a car if you live anywhere that is not NYC/Chicago/San Francisco, and the overall higher costs of food, entertainment, etc, relative to the UK due to these things being more localised with widespread food deserts etc).

5 - This is extremely relevant because if the OP can't afford the degree in the first place, or spends the entire degree working like a dog during their studies to try and afford it and gets a 3rd, whatever fantasy world you have conjured for them will never come to be.

The final decision rests with the @Tanmay230804 and it could be LSE if they want the London experience or Warwick near Birmingham. :smile:
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Original post by Tanmay230804
I have applied for Maths &statistics /Data Science . Do have offers from Warwick LSE and UCL . Can someone help in choosing the Uni based on quality of education and future prospects . Warwick is rated very high for Maths . LSE have applied for maths with data science . Need to decide by 7th June


Firstly, congrats for both amazing uni offers!
Firstly, focus less on rankings, and reflect on what you think may be best for you. To be honest both institutions are equally as good, but make a decision on aspects like whether you prefer a city, this is because some students at Warwick dislike the uni because it is in a quite isolated area, although living expenses may be cheaper, students generally regard the location as a downside. LSE is located more in a city, there is many things you can do, I would recommend LSE. LSE is better in terms of job prospects, once you are in LSE, you know you are set. In my opinion, I am all for LSE, it is also very diverse.
Reply 23
Original post by BS004
Firstly, congrats for both amazing uni offers!
Firstly, focus less on rankings, and reflect on what you think may be best for you. To be honest both institutions are equally as good, but make a decision on aspects like whether you prefer a city, this is because some students at Warwick dislike the uni because it is in a quite isolated area, although living expenses may be cheaper, students generally regard the location as a downside. LSE is located more in a city, there is many things you can do, I would recommend LSE. LSE is better in terms of job prospects, once you are in LSE, you know you are set. In my opinion, I am all for LSE, it is also very diverse.

Thankyou so very much
Reply 24
Original post by thegeek888
The final decision rests with the @Tanmay230804 and it could be LSE if they want the London experience or Warwick near Birmingham. :smile:

Thankyou so very much for your guidance
Reply 25
Original post by artful_lounger
I believe you can switch your firm and insurance choices up to a certain point, and if it's within 2 weeks of making the application you can change other things. I would recommend getting in touch with UCAS ASAP to find out what your options are...and check with the universities in question too before making any changes to your UCAS to ensure they will actually honour the original offer and scholarship if that is your aim.


Since you have yet to complete your A-levels based on your posting history, how would you know that data science is "more fun" and "less stressful"? Just because it's something you are interested in doesn't mean you should foist that interest on other people.

Your advice is really misguided in this thread, with no apparent basis, and may have contributed to costing the OP tens of thousands of pounds in scholarships that they will need to make up themselves out of pocket since they are an international student and not getting SFE loans, and their tuition fees are going to be at least 5x the cost of home fees. Not to mention having to live in one of the most expensive cities in the world without a scholarship to boot. This has potential extremely significant, real world ramifications for the OP, and there seems to be absolutely no basis for your assertions.

Thanks everyone . To clarify . I live in london for last 3 yrs but am Classified as international student due to my passport status .
From an expense Point , it will almost be same as in case of warwick will have lodging costs whereas in london i will stay at home
I do believe , it boils down to career prospects , learning quality and overall interests
Original post by thegeek888
It's not a lie, in the USA there is a massive shortage of Data Scientists, Cybersecurity and Cloud Computing specialists.

Look here: https://www.indeed.com/career/data-scientist/salaries :smile:


You mentioned £200k in sterling pounds first then you said job shortage in the USA, so you really lied. Data scientists do make more, but certainly not by that much. If you want to make more money, you need years of experience, a PhD from a top US university like Carnegie Mellon, MIT, Stanford, etc., and you must live in the US. The LSE has a good reputation, but not quite up to that level.

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