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Reply 20
Original post by AF2Dr
The fact that it's all the Scottish universities whose students supposedly have higher grades than those at Oxbridge would strongly suggest to me that it's simply due to how that university guide scores Scottish Highers compared to A Levels.

An excellent valid point. However, still, within that, St Andrews had an 87% rating whereas Dundee had 100%. Which means that Dundee entrants have better grades for Medicine than St Andrews entrants (St Andrew Medicine students also achieving lower grades on average the other Scottish universities).
Or is it partly the very possible case that Dundee, probably having more Scottish entrants as a percentage of nationalities than the other Scottish universities, and St Andrews possibly having fewer Scottish entrants as a percentage than the other Scottish universities, are affected by Scottish Highers being diplomatically regarded on a par with A-Levels when, in fact, the former are usually taken by 17 year olds and the latter usually by 18 year olds? Therefore artificially making it look as if Scottish students are more intelligent, or artificially making it look that Scottish universities can ask for the highest grades for Medicine, on average? I think your post explains why quite ALL of them are at the top.
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Reply 21
Hi
What were your reasons for applying to Oxford in the first place?
Original post by Anonymous #2
the one thing i would keep in mind is whether you will genuinely regret it. do you think you’ll always have a nagging “what if?” in your mind if you reject oxford? is that something you’re okay with?

either way, wait until UCL gets back to you. if it’s a rejection, your decision’s been made for you. if it’s an offer, then think about whether you’d regret saying no to oxford. good luck :smile:

I understand what you mean, but I think I would regret saying no either way. I'm extremely indecisive so if I say no to one, I will 100% think I should've gone to that uni. The reason I'm thinking about this early is bc UCL are changing to first-come first-served in accommodation, and I want to apply for the cheapest accommodation I can get, so waiting later might mean I can't afford London either way. But thanks for the advice :smile:
Original post by CAG575
Hi
What were your reasons for applying to Oxford in the first place?

Honestly, it was more that I felt I had to apply to one of Oxbridge so I was 'wasting' my chance there. I would say my reasoning has changed a bit more now, but at first it was more of a external pressure kind of thing :smile:
Reply 24
Original post by tastierspoon460
Honestly, it was more that I felt I had to apply to one of Oxbridge so I was 'wasting' my chance there. I would say my reasoning has changed a bit more now, but at first it was more of a external pressure kind of thing :smile:

It is difficult but if you think that you want to go to London purely for financial reasons then you are mistaken. London is significantly more expensive than Oxford ( I have been to both). The short terms in Oxford allow for significantly more holiday earning. You can earn whilst in Oxford during term time , student life in Oxford ( accommodation etc) is loads cheaper than London and the financial support in Oxford is substantial. You do get slightly more money for living in London but it doesn’t make up the short fall. Oxford is quite diverse and a great experience- London is too. Maybe go and visit Oxford and the college you’ve got an offer from to help you decide. If you want to go to London and don’t want to go to Oxford then go to London - it’s totally fine to reject Oxford. Don’t reject Oxford under the illusion that London will be financially easier - because it won’t. If money is a real factor , then choose Oxford - otherwise go wherever you like better.
Yes its fine - you should ask yourself is it the right decision? .. &, it depends what you want out of your degree (from an academic, what doors you want opened, what skills & experiences you want…).

Oxford has some unique features & benefits but it isn’t for everyone.

I wouldn’t worry about rankings or research focus, both universities are very big research institutions and are perceived as world class universities.
Wait until you hear from all 4 universities you applied to. Oxford might be your only offer, so you would have to accept it anyway, if you want to go this year.
Original post by Retired Nurse
Wait until you hear from all 4 universities you applied to. Oxford might be your only offer, so you would have to accept it anyway, if you want to go this year.

There's always clearing ....
Original post by Muttley79
There's always clearing ....

Indeed, but a bit daft to be left with that, if you reject any offers you do have.
I wonder which Oxford University College made you the offer? 😧
Hi
Firstly, Congratulations on your offer! It is a great achievement you should be very proud. So many people struggle to get one. And yours is from Oxford. They are notoriously picky, so if they think you are good to go, then I am sure more offers will be coming your way. Whilst it is great to have a choice, having an offer is the most important part.

35k+ people alone sat the UCAT alone, some will only have done BMAT so that is a huge applicant to place ratio. So to get an an offer is against stiff competition all wanting the same places. But, once the offers are out, the competitive nature flips. It’s now the universities trying to get the best students to firm them. This is the same with a lot of degree courses / universities. They are now in the game of selling themselves to you. Applicant/offer holder days are great things to go to if you have a chance, and if you have more than one offer then you should try to get to them ideally. In my view you should never firm anything until you have all your responses.

Unis don’t agree with me on this, they want you to firm them asap to give them certainty. The rush now only benefits them. One of the biggest levers they have on this is the accommodation scares, pressures to get halls. It may be true, but it can also be inflated by clever phrasing, or by students themselves creating the hype.

Find the uni/college accommodation policy on applications (often well hidden) and go over it carefully. Is it first come first served, or a ballot? What is the accommodation guarantee, firm and insurance? What are the key dates??

Importantly, Look at costs of second year onwards accom costs. Rightmove or the uni website links. Cost of transport? Many unis, esp London ones seriously subsidise the cost of uni halls in the first year to tempt people in, and then the second year is a shock! If there is a desperate shortage of year 1 accomm it doesn’t bode well for future years.

London can be a very lonely place as people live so dispersed and commute in as it is so eye wateringly expensive. Oxford has a much more community student vibe. If you don’t like that vibe though …. Birmingham is a really good combination of the two, it’s cheaper, and has vibrant, diverse Birmingham on its doorstep.

Arm yourself with as much info and experience as you can and use it wisely. Yes, it is perfectly valid to firm somewhere other than Oxford, but if money is a concern tread carefully !

Good luck in your future career, wherever it starts!
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Original post by tastierspoon460
Hi, so I'm in y13 and i've just received an offer to study medicine at Oxford. The problem is that I'm not sure if I want to go yet. I particularly like UCL (I haven't heard back from them yet so this is all theoretical anyway), but here's kind of the reasons.

For Oxford -

- It's oxford --> it's a really good uni.
- It's a lot cheaper than London.
- It's also safer than London.
- Better societies (for me)

For London

- I think I would find Oxford stressful - one of my close friends who I'm quite similar with went to study Medicine and dropped out bc of the pressure
- I really really like London
- There's so much more to do in London
- The course has better options (SSCs, intercalation choices) for my personal goals
- UCL is more diverse (which might be better especially in medicine to meet people from all backgrounds and also I'm gay and northern with a strong accent which idk if that affects it)
- I'm not too interested in a major focus on research, which Oxford really seems keen on
- Even though Oxford is cheaper, you can't work there, and I get a reduced student loan + no money from my parents, so I would need to work to sustain myself.

UCL is only a few places behind Oxford on league tables, and it's 6th in the world, so it's not hugely bad for me.


I need opinions though, bc I really do like UCL but I feel like it's quite hard for me to consciously reject Oxford (I'm very indecisive which probably makes it a bit worse).

Sorry it's quite a long post but I would be curious for opinions :smile:

First of all, well done for getting an offer to study medicine at Oxford!! That's amazing!
I'm also a year 13 student, and I checked out Cambridge as my teachers pestered me to apply, but when I went there, I personally didn't feel that it was my vibe. Oxbridge is fantastic and opens many doors, but I felt London University has factors such as diversity, culture and the buzz of being in London. As you mentioned earlier, Medicine is already stressful; however, it will be stressful wherever you go. Oxford is made for people who thrive in that academic environment, and they thought you were well-suited, so don't ever doubt yourself. While I firmly believe that UCL and any London Uni will provide you with different experiences, Oxford also has its perks. Consider it: UCL will take on far more medicine applicants, all incredibly talented, from schools such as Brampton Manor or NCS, and Oxford will also take the same, maybe even more private kids. However, the teaching is the main difference. You also need to factor in that Medicine is already complex as it is, and Oxford has fewer students and more tailored lesson styles. What I mean is that it will have more one-to-one, smaller classes and more opportunities for you to fully enhance your knowledge as you'll have that personal relationship with your teacher- an experience that bigger Universities may not offer. Both are excellent Universities, but you should wait for all your offers and consider what is important to you. Oxford may help you more regarding the difficulties of your degree, whilst UCL may give you opportunities to go to a great Uni and surround yourself with many different people. It does sound like you've made your decision based on the descriptions you gave, but wait to rule it out. Focus on the grades and make a pros and cons list! I wish you all the best 🙂
Original post by George&Mary44!
Firstly, Congratulations on your offer! It is a great achievement you should be very proud. So many people struggle to get one. And yours is from Oxford. They are notoriously picky, so if they think you are good to go, then I am sure more offers will be coming your way. Whilst it is great to have a choice, having an offer is the most important part.

35k+ people alone sat the UCAT alone, some will only have done BMAT so that is a huge applicant to place ratio. So to get an an offer is against stiff competition all wanting the same places. But, once the offers are out, the competitive nature flips. It’s now the universities trying to get the best students to firm them. This is the same with a lot of degree courses / universities. They are now in the game of selling themselves to you. Applicant/offer holder days are great things to go to if you have a chance, and if you have more than one offer then you should try to get to them ideally. In my view you should never firm anything until you have all your responses.

Unis don’t agree with me on this, they want you to firm them asap to give them certainty. The rush now only benefits them. One of the biggest levers they have on this is the accommodation scares, pressures to get halls. It may be true, but it can also be inflated by clever phrasing, or by students themselves creating the hype.

Find the uni/college accommodation policy on applications (often well hidden) and go over it carefully. Is it first come first served, or a ballot? What is the accommodation guarantee, firm and insurance? What are the key dates??

Importantly, Look at costs of second year onwards accom costs. Rightmove or the uni website links. Cost of transport? Many unis, esp London ones seriously subsidise the cost of uni halls in the first year to tempt people in, and then the second year is a shock! If there is a desperate shortage of year 1 accomm it doesn’t bode well for future years.

London can be a very lonely place as people live so dispersed and commute in as it is so eye wateringly expensive. Oxford has a much more community student vibe. If you don’t like that vibe though …. Birmingham is a really good combination of the two, it’s cheaper, and has vibrant, diverse Birmingham on its doorstep.

Arm yourself with as much info and experience as you can and use it wisely. Yes, it is perfectly valid to firm somewhere other than Oxford, but if money is a concern tread carefully !

Good luck in your future career, wherever it starts!

this is an excellent point for OP to consider. many oxford colleges will guarantee you accomodation for at least the first three years of your degree, and you may be able to continue renting from your college for the whole course. renting from your college is not only going to be substantially easier than a private landlord, but much cheaper, and there’s not going to be a commute involved. quality of life is important!
Go to Oxford. The undergraduate experience at a collegiate university is special. You have two senses of belonging: to your college and to the wider university. In college, you live, work, and socialise with a relatively small group of brilliant peers doing all the different subjects. Friendships made at Oxford often endure for life. If you wish to, you can retain a lifetime relationship with your college after you finish your studies there. Being able to walk or cycle safely everywhere and not have to worry about travel costs and delays is great. The beauty of the buildings and especially of the libraries is conducive to intense study. Oxford is a place where to be clever and studious is the default setting - clever is cool. The array of social and recreational activities is huge. Diversity is fine - Oxford is much more mixed than the stereotypes suggest. "Saltburn" is bad fiction.

The tutorial system is a great way to learn - one on one or two on one intellectual encounters with some of the leading scholars in the World. As for medicine, the John Radcliffe is a superb teaching hospital with great staff.

It is no accident that a place at Oxford is sought after. UCL is great, but, given the choice, take Oxford.
I add that Worcester College is friendly, left leaning, and inclusive, as well as having great buildings and gardens.
Original post by Stiffy Byng
Go to Oxford. The undergraduate experience at a collegiate university is special. You have two senses of belonging: to your college and to the wider university. In college, you live, work, and socialise with a relatively small group of brilliant peers doing all the different subjects. Friendships made at Oxford often endure for life. If you wish to, you can retain a lifetime relationship with your college after you finish your studies there. Being able to walk or cycle safely everywhere and not have to worry about travel costs and delays is great. The beauty of the buildings and especially of the libraries is conducive to intense study. Oxford is a place where to be clever and studious is the default setting - clever is cool. The array of social and recreational activities is huge. Diversity is fine - Oxford is much more mixed than the stereotypes suggest. "Saltburn" is bad fiction.

The tutorial system is a great way to learn - one on one or two on one intellectual encounters with some of the leading scholars in the World. As for medicine, the John Radcliffe is a superb teaching hospital with great staff.

It is no accident that a place at Oxford is sought after. UCL is great, but, given the choice, take Oxford.

Cycle and walk safely?! How recently have you visited Oxford?

Lots of universities are as you describe.
Original post by Muttley79
Cycle and walk safely?! How recently have you visited Oxford?

Lots of universities are as you describe.


I am often in Oxford. You can cycle and walk safely there. An undergraduate would rarely if ever need to use public transport within the city, unless living some way out from the centre. The question here is UCL or Oxford. Many universities have wonderful qualities, UCL being one of them. I am simply offering the view that the OP might enjoy Oxford, both academically and socially. Other views are available!
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Reply 38
Both Oxford and UCL are good universities. Op should visit both , once all the offers are in, and choose the one which they feel they will be most happy at. It is absolutely fine to reject Oxford if you would rather go to UCL. Just make sure that you are fully informed about both before you make the decision - rather than swayed by people that you don’t know on an Internet forum.
Original post by Stiffy Byng
I am often in Oxford. You can cycle and walk safely there. An undergraduate would rarely if ever need to use public transport within the city, unless living some way out from the centre. The question here is UCL or Oxford. Many universities have wonderful qualities, UCL being one of them. I am simply offering the view that the OP might enjoy Oxford, both academically and socially. Other views are available!

It's not safe to walk - I have almost be taken out by a cyclist going through a red light as I crossed the road.

Cyclists are frequently cycling through red lghts and where they shouldn't be!

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