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Original post by nearlyheadlessian
You couldn't start a Maths degree and finish with a History degree - not enough credits. Seriously, read the outside courses sticky.


Thanks, I think I get it now. So there are compulsory courses for any given degree programme and that they must be studied using your credits each year if you want to specialize in one of them.

Theres one thing I haven't found a definitive answer yet. Going into your 2nd year, are you allowed to stop taking courses in one of the subjects you studied in your 1st year (to free up credits), to either do courses in new subjects, or to start specialising in one of your other subject by taking more courses on it?

just to give an example: say if you originally applied to study english, and you took outside courses in two subjects: maths and philosophy. So in total for your 1st year you studied english, maths and philosophy. For your 2nd year, can you stop studying further courses in one of those subjects to either allow yourself to take courses in a new subject or to allow yourself to take more courses in one or both of your remaining subjects to make up the total 120 credit for that year?
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Original post by jaynnmmmhouse
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It's all subject/degree specific, but yes, you have the general idea.

You apply to do a degree in A.

1st year: You do A + B + C
2nd year: You could do B + C + D
3rd year: You might potentially be able to complete a degree in B + C, B or C.
4th year: Do whatever you did in 3rd year.
I hear that english lit 1A and some of the politics courses are oversubscribed to the extent that there are many people who want to study them as their outside courses but aren't allowed to.

are there any other courses like this? just so I don't get my hopes up of studying them if I firm edinburgh
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Original post by nearlyheadlessian
It's all subject/degree specific, but yes, you have the general idea.

You apply to do a degree in A.

1st year: You do A + B + C
2nd year: You could do B + C + D
3rd year: You might potentially be able to complete a degree in B + C, B or C.
4th year: Do whatever you did in 3rd year.


But you can not end up with two degrees, or can you?
Original post by Promilla
But you can not end up with two degrees, or can you?


No. To get two degrees you would need to do two degrees. If you study two subjects at honours then you'll graduate with joint honours. No better than single honours - just that you did two subjects.
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Does anyone take/ has anyone taken psychology 1? I'm considering picking it as one of my outside courses next year (I'm currently a first year) and was just wondering if it's a good choice, and if it's particularly science based?
I applied to do social anthropology (ABB) and am hoping I can swap to doing a philosophy degree when I get there (I'll get AAB or AAA), is it possible to change degree so that although I do anthropology modules in first and second year along side philosophy modules....I do pure philosophy third and fourth year?

Also is there any guarantee that we can choose whatever subjects we want to do in the first and second year?
I applied to do social anthropology (ABB) and am hoping I can swap to doing a philosophy degree when I get there (I'll get AAB or AAA), is it possible to change degree so that although I do anthropology modules in first and second year along side philosophy modules....I do pure philosophy third and fourth year and come out with a philsophy degree?

Also is there any guarantee that we can choose whatever subjects we want to do in the first and second year?
I applied to do social anthropology (ABB) and am hoping I can swap to doing a philosophy degree when I get there (I'll get AAB or AAA), is it possible to change degree so that although I do anthropology modules in first and second year along side philosophy modules....I do pure philosophy third and fourth year?

Also is there any guarantee that we can choose whatever subjects we want to do in the first and second year, e.g are some really oversubscribed? I don't want to come knowing that I won't be allowed to do some modules.
Original post by annamarie1994
Also is there any guarantee that we can choose whatever subjects we want to do in the first and second year, e.g are some really oversubscribed? I don't want to come knowing that I won't be allowed to do some modules.


There's no guarantee. Firstly, the courses need to be approved for your degree programme (this is pretty broad but it does rule out some stuff), secondly, there can't be a timetable clash (you're not allowed to do a course if you can't actually turn up), thirdly, there are some courses that are simply too oversubscribed to take any or many outside course students.
Original post by nearlyheadlessian
There's no guarantee. Firstly, the courses need to be approved for your degree programme (this is pretty broad but it does rule out some stuff), secondly, there can't be a timetable clash (you're not allowed to do a course if you can't actually turn up), thirdly, there are some courses that are simply too oversubscribed to take any or many outside course students.


ah so you don't know what subjects you can take until you get to edinburgh uni itself? Do you know what any of these over subscribed courses are? It seems silly that they go on about how flexible the program is yet once you're there you are stuck doing two other subjects you had not thought about before....

Do you know how possible it is to change degree program entirely? Thanks
Original post by annamarie1994
ah so you don't know what subjects you can take until you get to edinburgh uni itself? Do you know what any of these over subscribed courses are? It seems silly that they go on about how flexible the program is yet once you're there you are stuck doing two other subjects you had not thought about before....

Do you know how possible it is to change degree program entirely? Thanks


Well no, it's not confirmed until you're enrolled on the courses in question. Oversubscribed courses include English Literature and Politics, but it obviously varies from year to year. It's not that silly - it's far more flexible than the multitude of universities in England where outside courses don't exist - it's hardly unreasonable to include some limitations...

In terms of a change in degree it's something you can raise with your personal tutor when you arrive. However, it may be the prerequisites for what you want to take are different, etc.
Okay. I had a look at timetable for CS which takes 80 credits first year. Now, what about engineering? Would it be overkill to do CS and engineering? :biggrin:
Original post by nearlyheadlessian
Well no, it's not confirmed until you're enrolled on the courses in question. Oversubscribed courses include English Literature and Politics, but it obviously varies from year to year. It's not that silly - it's far more flexible than the multitude of universities in England where outside courses don't exist - it's hardly unreasonable to include some limitations...

In terms of a change in degree it's something you can raise with your personal tutor when you arrive. However, it may be the prerequisites for what you want to take are different, etc.

The flexibility of Edinburgh is appealing, just when they are forcing you to spend two years of your time their spending 2/3 of your studies studying something that is not what you initially applied to do...inevitably people are going to want to know what courses they can pick up once they are there.


I would've thought a few people change courses after the first/second year after realising that another subject they are studying of equal weight to the one they applied to do is better for them. Is this not something that happens quite a bit?
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Hi, I have accepted my offer to read English Lit and History and I'm wondering if anyone can answer my question about courses in the History Dept? I know that first year English Lit is 40 credits and I'd like to make up the other 80 with history courses, are there any restrictions about which history courses you can do together? Is it ok to do 40 credits of European History and 40 credits of British History for instance?
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I applied for English Literature, and my heart is set on taking Philosophy and History of Art as my outside subjects in first year. What are my chances of getting to do all three courses?
Reply 596
Original post by sarzed
Hi, I have accepted my offer to read English Lit and History and I'm wondering if anyone can answer my question about courses in the History Dept? I know that first year English Lit is 40 credits and I'd like to make up the other 80 with history courses, are there any restrictions about which history courses you can do together? Is it ok to do 40 credits of European History and 40 credits of British History for instance?


I'm not aware of any restrictions on the history courses of that sort, but someone else might know more. I was initially doing the joint degree 'Ancient & Medieval History' so did several history courses on Britain & Scotland in first year before I switched to doing just Ancient History (which is a degree in the classics department, rather than the history department).
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Original post by amlit
I applied for English Literature, and my heart is set on taking Philosophy and History of Art as my outside subjects in first year. What are my chances of getting to do all three courses?


I was able to do History of Art as an outside subject in my first year, but that was a couple of years ago (I'm going in to 4th year now) so it's possible things have changed. I expect it also depends on how many other people in your year group also try to sign up for the class, if it becomes full before you sign up.
When do you sign up for the outside courses?
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Original post by annamarie1994
When do you sign up for the outside courses?


During freshers you will have a meeting with your personal tutor and he will sign them up for you!

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