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Original post by Indo-Chinese Food
Yes im aware of the origins of judo thanks, and also of shaui jiao- the point wasnt that kung fu doesnt use grappling, it was that it is operated and applied like a martial art. For your basic judo dimwit, as exemplified by einheri et al, judo is all-conquering and kung fu doesnt have a grappling/groundgame to compare. But thanks for disproving their argument outright anyway :thumbsup:

as regards shuaijioa, it can be practiced in competiton form, which is similar to how judo players go ie wrestling and it also has a combat form, like most kung fu styles that are more reality focussed and invloe stayin on your feet more and maintian your balance while your opponenet loses theirs.
The most important thng though is in kung fu, shaui jiao grappling is only one type of technique, to be used in conjunction with distance striking, CQ combat, speed and avoidance of damage. I guessing your sifu didnt specialise only in grappling, whay style of kung fu did he teach?



he taught hung gar in this country as well as his own family style back in china. suaijiao was jsut another hobby of his in chia you do it in school and college and if good go on at natioanl level. hung gar is one fo the styles that features a lot of close combat training like grips, locks and jointbreaks because it was created out of the old shaolin tiger styles. there are a few kung fu styles that feature close qurter speciliasms, wing chun and jeet kune do were designed for striking and countering in confined spaces, though i didnt train it myself, they do the chi sao stuff that trains up reaction speed to oppnenets movement and countering speed, which is why im seeing a lot of doormen and stff learning it as it comes in handy when you have drunks stepping up into your face when you can delvier a flurry of strikes ina second - the martirossian school is a good place to learn somehwere down in brighton, take a look fromr 0.15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep7vhbbLuV8&feature=related
Original post by I-Am-A-Tripod
he taught hung gar in this country as well as his own family style back in china. suaijiao was jsut another hobby of his in chia you do it in school and college and if good go on at natioanl level. hung gar is one fo the styles that features a lot of close combat training like grips, locks and jointbreaks because it was created out of the old shaolin tiger styles. there are a few kung fu styles that feature close qurter speciliasms, wing chun and jeet kune do were designed for striking and countering in confined spaces, though i didnt train it myself, they do the chi sao stuff that trains up reaction speed to oppnenets movement and countering speed, which is why im seeing a lot of doormen and stff learning it as it comes in handy when you have drunks stepping up into your face when you can delvier a flurry of strikes ina second - the martirossian school is a good place to learn somehwere down in brighton, take a look fromr 0.15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep7vhbbLuV8&feature=related



i havent really seen much of the hung gar styles, i have seen good stanard wingtusn guys in action though and exaclty how fast they are. What else have you trained? i would add the monkey style if you have ever seen it practiced at high level it looks totally wierd, but in a fight unpredictability goes in your favour when its really hard to predict how the will strike and taking the fight to places most people arnt really used to
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Original post by Indo-Chinese Food
i havent really seen much of the hung gar styles, i have seen good stanard wingtusn guys in action though and exaclty how fast they are. What else have you trained? i would add the monkey style if you have ever seen it practiced at high level it looks totally wierd, but in a fight unpredictability goes in your favour when its really hard to predict how the will strike and taking the fight to places most people arnt really used to


mainly HG, but did 4 years choy li fut, now train a system which is an amalgam of southern styles designed for use in close range combat , dirty boxing etc my current teacher was brought up with dumog training also so am absorbing alot of that style too.
Why is there so much arguing on this thread about which is the best martial art? Who cares? Surely it's mostly about enjoyment.
Original post by I-Am-A-Tripod

And for the record, im full-on kung fu trained and would wipe the floor with you all if was in the mood


Well you don't sound fully kung fu trained, I thought you were taught not to abuse the techniques you have been trained to use? Even I know that from muay thai. Also you smack a lot of a keyboard warrior, how could you possibly know you could wipe the floor with everyone who has posted here?
Hi all!

I have a question concerning kicks out of a turn: Should I do an intermediate step and turn over my body after that? Or would it be better when I rotated through 180° without an intermediate step? intermediate step means a step into a fighting position of semi contact. Then I started to kick against an imaginary rival.

What do you mean about that?
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Original post by TheJ0ker
Well you don't sound fully kung fu trained, I thought you were taught not to abuse the techniques you have been trained to use? Even I know that from muay thai. Also you smack a lot of a keyboard warrior, how could you possibly know you could wipe the floor with everyone who has posted here?


You clearly have never come across irony before..
Hi, Im new to the thread :smile:

1st Kyu Judo.

Currently fighting for my 1st Dan.

Unfortunatly out injured atm :frown:
Just got back from a sparring session, got battered lol, took a real bad leg kick and now I probably won't be able walk tomorrow!
Original post by TheJ0ker
Just got back from a sparring session, got battered lol, took a real bad leg kick and now I probably won't be able walk tomorrow!


Take a small amount of Tumeric powder, mix with warm water and couple of drops of oil and rub on leg where the bruise is. It will be messy and turn your leg yellow for a few days but it will bring down the brusing inside 2 days guaranteed
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Original post by cfearon149
Hi, Im new to the thread :smile:

1st Kyu Judo.

Currently fighting for my 1st Dan.

Unfortunatly out injured atm :frown:


Me too, sort of. I've had a long term problem in my hip for as long as I can remember and I'm having surgery in late june-ish to fix it. It's a cam impingement and there's also a muscle tear that needs sorting, probably caused by pushing my hips too much despite having the problems. I'm out until around September/October apparently which isn't too bad I guess, considering the nature of the problem.
Original post by Dr. Bassman
Me too, sort of. I've had a long term problem in my hip for as long as I can remember and I'm having surgery in late june-ish to fix it. It's a cam impingement and there's also a muscle tear that needs sorting, probably caused by pushing my hips too much despite having the problems. I'm out until around September/October apparently which isn't too bad I guess, considering the nature of the problem.


your definitly in a worse position than me.
i took an injury to the medial ligament and nerves that run through the elbow durin my last competition (January) but i should be back in april!

Was fightin a 130kg guy in the team event, i weighed in at 80.9kgs lol but long story short the guy landed on my elbow and it hyperextended, lucky i didnt break the arm though!
Original post by cfearon149
your definitly in a worse position than me.
i took an injury to the medial ligament and nerves that run through the elbow durin my last competition (January) but i should be back in april!

Was fightin a 130kg guy in the team event, i weighed in at 80.9kgs lol but long story short the guy landed on my elbow and it hyperextended, lucky i didnt break the arm though!


Ouch :frown: That's got to hurt.

My thing seems a bit worse because it needs surgery but technically I can still fight with it, as I have been doing since last summer when it started becoming especially noticeable. I was actually meant to be fighting quite soon but had to turn it down because I'd rather get surgery as soon as possible so i'll be fit by the time I start university.

The muscle tear is probably a bit worse I think since it doesn't just block movement but actually hurts quite a bit, even when using low kicks. I was also doing some judo a while back and when the guy was pulling me around and my leg would split while going over his leg (if that makes any sense at all) I started to feel it. Same goes for me putting my hooks in when taking someone's back in groundwork and going for triangle chokes etc.

I'm actually quite excited for the surgery, should change me into a completely different fighter because i'll have way more leg kicks and more confidence and flexibility in grappling. I am already quite flexible but it's useless because I can't use it dynamically.
happy days then mate

are you mixin things up abit or what martial art rya doin then?
Original post by cfearon149
happy days then mate

are you mixin things up abit or what martial art rya doin then?


Mainly kickboxing and judo but I mix it up with boxing, muay thai and BJJ a bit.

Kickboxing is the only one I really actively compete in as a martial art, the others I just practise for general fighting. I don't like fighting in actual judo competitions. I think the martial art is great but I think a lot of the rules take away from its practicality. I'd much rather compete in BJJ but it's too expensive for me to keep up full time and tbh, I think judo is still very very practical, despite my dislike for the rules.
Anyone here who has done or currently does shotokan karate? If so what is it like as a martial art?
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For a person that doesn't really trust the stability of their knee, is there any other discipline that I would be able to partake in?
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I am doing a research project asking if a
martial arts show like Kung fu could be
successful on modern television audiences. Just wanted to hear peoples thoughts on the idea?
Original post by Mess.
For a person that doesn't really trust the stability of their knee, is there any other discipline that I would be able to partake in?


BJJ. There are certain drills that may trouble you some but as long as you're sensible you should be okay.

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