Rochdale grooming trial: Nine found guilty of child sex charges

This is going around in circles. There is no inconsistency in Islamic belief here. Muslims believe that God does condemn sex with people who are not physically developed enough, and they do not believe that Mohammad had sex with someone physically undeveloped.

I think you are missing the point here.

English law asserts that children can be physically ready for sex but not prepared for it emotionally. They are still children. That is why the age of consent is 16, and any adult who has sex with a child less than 16 is a paedophile.

Muslims may believe that their God thinks it is OK for adults to sexually abuse emotionally immature people simply because they have gone through puberty, but really that is irrelevant. It is illegal here. And if they are caught doing it they will, should, go to prison.

I think you are missing the point here.

English law asserts that children can be physically ready for sex but not prepared for it emotionally. They are still children. That is why the age of consent is 16, and any adult who has sex with a child less than 16 is a paedophile.

Muslims may believe that their God thinks it is OK for adults to sexually abuse emotionally immature people simply because they have gone through puberty, but really that is irrelevant. It is illegal here. And if they are caught doing it they will, should, go to prison.

well in islam for the crimes of rape they would be executed

Do you mean the woman? Well she could always marry him.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/12/islamic-law-rape-victim-forced-to-marry-muslim-rapist.html

well in islam for the crimes of rape they would be executed

Do you mean the woman? Well she could always marry him.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/12/islamic-law-rape-victim-forced-to-marry-muslim-rapist.html

im sure the thai police do ignore some of it, perhaps most of it- if you have ever been to thailand, you will know how the bribe system works - so the reasonbley well-off white paedophile will be ignored for arrest in most cases more regularly than they would in this country, that is part of the reason they go to countires like that.
And i think this guy that looks like harry potter (forgot his name) already brought up 'whitey -o-phobia'

You need proper sources to prove this is the same situation...also proof that 4% of the Thai population is white british.

Also proof that british white men are way over-represented in the stats of underage abuse in Thailand.

posted in this thread are names of various brits that have been charged with child abuse type offenses in thailand, if you are interested you can look them up.

i didnt need to counter, i replied pointing out his (and the standard) hypocrites stance

Why are all you guys wasting your breath talking about whether or not there is an issue with Pakistanis or Muslims? Anyone with the meanest knowledge about Pakistanis in Britain will know that it's a Mirpuri issue (Kashmiris). Pretty much all British Pakistanis in Bradford and all the other backward British Pakistani areas are Mirpuri. All these groomers are Mirpuri, most of the british pakistani criminals are mirpuri. However, on the other hand Punjabis have intergrated very well into British society, they are much more liberal etc, you will see this in the south of england where pretty much all the British Pakistanis are Punjabis, check out this article on wikipedia and scroll down to 'Assimilating into British society' and read about the two different ethnic groups:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Pakistanis#Kashmiris

Don't mistake Mirpuri culture with Punjabi culture, they are very different. The reason why Mirpuris in the UK are like this is because the 1st generation Mirpuris came from a really backward area in pakistan full of villages, they were almost all illterate and poor with a rural lifestyle. However, Punjabis came from cities and they were literate and more liberal. The media needs to learn about this issue, people dont know about it. In the US pretty much all of the British Pakistanis are Punjabis and guess what? 60% of them have degrees (one of the highest rates for an ethnic minority in the country), the average Pakistani American earns twice the amount that a normal american earns and they have intergrated so well that today there are more bi racial Pakistanis than full Pakistanis in the country.

People are way too ignorant on this issue. I'm not hating on mirpuris, it's all fact.

"Around 70% of the British Pakistanis can trace their origins to Mirpur and its surrounding areas"

Great.... So 70% of Pakistanis are from this totally incompatible place.

I'm not sure if this is a conflation of Mirpur and Kashmir which people often do. Perhaps 70% are from Kashmir but from the district/city of Mirpur itself seems quite a stretch. I don't know. A lot of non-Kashmiris conflate this themselves: an individual from Kashmir may speak a language that's been dubbed as "Mirpuri" and so they're automatically considered Mirpuri themselves even though they're not *exactly* from there.

I think all of those involved were from Kashmir, which is pretty sad.

I'm not sure if this is a conflation of Mirpur and Kashmir which people often do. Perhaps 70% are from Kashmir but from the district/city of Mirpur itself seems quite a stretch. I don't know. A lot of non-Kashmiris conflate this themselves: an individual from Kashmir may speak a language that's been dubbed as "Mirpuri" and so they're automatically considered Mirpuri themselves even though they're not *exactly* from there.

I think all of those involved were from Kashmir, which is pretty sad.

Muslims may believe that their God thinks it is OK for adults to sexually abuse emotionally immature people simply because they have gone through puberty

but really that is irrelevant.

It is illegal here. And if they are caught doing it they will, should, go to prison.

Bunch of English immigrants commit horrific sex crimes in Pakistan... Pakistani people must not be 'ignorant' of the region from England they are from... and must take this into account, and not tar all English people with the same brush.

It amuses me how you never see the irony of your posts

yea cool...

explain

Like how you say not to tar all English people with the same brush, and you do the exact same thing for Kashmiris...

No I'm being sarcastic... the point is the particular region these men come from is of little interest to English people. It's as of little interest to English people as the fact say that a bunch English child rapists in Pakistan were all Cornish.

"Around 70% of the British Pakistanis can trace their origins to Mirpur and its surrounding areas"

Great.... So 70% of Pakistanis are from this totally incompatible place.

Again, the irony is there. You make out that it's of little interest and then say



ie: tarring all Pakistanis, and specifically Kashmiri's with the same brush

I must say first that while it was not the girls' fault in any way, shape or form and all blame for these disgusting deeds lies with the rapists,