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Why Should you take a BTEC?

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Original post by ComputerTune
I have decided to put forward a review on BTEC’s to people who are thinking of studying them for their education. So why should you study a BTEC?

Is it because you are stupid?
Is it because you failed A levels?
Is it because you failed your GSCE’s?
Is it because you can’t get Job?


These are many misinterpretations of BTEC’s on www.thestudentroom.co.uk, (TSR) Therefore I’m going to give a rough guide; to show you want you can get from studying a BTEC.

BTECs are aimed at people, who do things physically; they are aimed at people who want to get specialized in their chosen career so they can gain skills at early age. Many of the BTECs also included qualifications from other major companies in their chosen industry like music, media, and IT.

Another major contributed in to choosing to do a BTEC is that there aren’t any exams; the course is designed for coursework. For that reason YOU determine how much research and effort you put into your work, bear in mind that the little amount of effort you put in now the harder it will be when you go to university.

Unfortunately, people on TSR believe that people who choose to study these courses shouldn’t go to university. Now in some respect I agree with them, however if you show motivation and determination to succeed then you should be allow to go on the course. I say this with respect because a lot of BTEC student don’t bother and will still get the highest grades. You can go to loads of good universities with a BTEC qualification. Such as:

1. Durham
2. UCL
3. Kings College London
4. Nottingham
5. Sussex
6. Manchester
7. RHUL

However I would like to remind people that the BTEC is not alternative for accessing university education like Oxford or Cambridge. Some university do not accept BTEC's and if you want to go for subjects that are highly regards for their subject then looking into doing A levels will be your best bet.

If university is not what you after than great; going into work will be far easier than A level students. The great thing about BTEC is that they allow you to gain loads of skills and experience by doing things which A level students don’t do (they prefer to sit and read a book). You will have far bigger advantage in an interview because your course is far more related to the job.

tl-dr are you taking A levels? :rolleyes: and i thought btec students couldn't read



For people who doubt you could get into Oxford, Please talk to the admission tutor at Oxford university who would kindly put you in your place :wink:


Oops, accidentally negged you :facepalm: I agree with what you're saying, though. I did 2 BTECs at GCSE level and they weren't hard, but there was a lot of work involved. The A level equivalent of BTECs are probably similar - not as hard as A levels, but a similar amount of work. I understand why universities tend to reject them, though - for some courses, they're just too vocational.
Original post by vedderfan94
You actually believing BTECs are equivalent to A-Levels. Maybe for mickey mouse degrees like travel and tourism unis would prefer a BTEC but for academic subjects A-Levels (academic) > BTECs (practical). If you want you can try and find a BTEC student who has got into Cambridge with no a-levels but good luck.


THEY ARE.
A Levels AND BTECs are LEVEL 3 qualifiations, so equal.

BTEC students have got in to oxbridge, but not many.

amazing how someone who hasn't actually been through the procedure feels that they can call degrees and university entry micky mouse qualifications, and say that my qualificaitons are awful.
Original post by AspiringGenius
So, when it said on my exam result thing 116 points, twice 58, then usual for A*, does it mean I get two more A*s? :biggrin:


I think so, not sure. check with your teachers who should know the level 2 qualification.
Original post by clareramos
THEY ARE.
A Levels AND BTECs are LEVEL 3 qualifiations, so equal.

BTEC students have got in to oxbridge, but not many.

amazing how someone who hasn't actually been through the procedure feels that they can call degrees and university entry micky mouse qualifications, and say that my qualificaitons are awful.


lulz u did a mickey mouse degree
Original post by vedderfan94
lulz u did a mickey mouse degree


what one?

What makes it mickey mouse?
Original post by clareramos
what one?

What makes it mickey mouse?


lmao 'theatre' what a joke
Original post by vedderfan94
lulz u did a mickey mouse degree


Not necessary.
Original post by vedderfan94
lmao 'theatre' what a joke


erm no. least i did something i'm interested in and I managed to get a PhD so how is that a joke degree? i'm not going to both argueing with someone who thinks they know everyone who hasn't actually been through the degree process.
Original post by clareramos
I think so, not sure. check with your teachers who should know the level 2 qualification.


If they are: *does the victory dance*
Reply 189
Original post by clareramos
erm no. least i did something i'm interested in and I managed to get a PhD so how is that a joke degree? i'm not going to both argueing with someone who thinks they know everyone who hasn't actually been through the degree process.


:eek: wow you did phd, respect :smile:
Reply 190
Original post by vedderfan94
lulz u did a mickey mouse degree


lulz you don't even have a degree, kiddo. Haven't you got some homework to do? Otherwise you'll never get to uni :tongue:
finalMH it is on my profile as all my post 18 qualifications, other than DipHE and PGCE
Original post by vedderfan94
You actually believing BTECs are equivalent to A-Levels. Maybe for mickey mouse degrees like travel and tourism unis would prefer a BTEC but for academic subjects A-Levels (academic) > BTECs (practical). If you want you can try and find a BTEC student who has got into Cambridge with no a-levels but good luck.


Cambridge or Oxford arnt really fair examples there vedderfan!

This is because the students that go to Cambridge or Oxford will have wanted to since possibly GCSE time, thus their schools will have cherry picked them for the 6th form.

Ill talk from my point of view, having worked in the Engineering industry.

Thus, I doubt you'll find many BTEC students at Cambridge. Reason being is they just don`t apply. As a general rule BTEC students would leave college and jump on the employment ladder and start climbing the rungs.

I mean from the original 40 that started on my course 20 have left. 3 from my group the higher achieving group and 1 from the lower achieving group are going to uni.

A BTEC is okay if you want to get into a good but not top university

So out of the top uni`s ones placed between 20-30 such as Durham and Lancaster. Fairly easy to get into really. I could piss the entry requirements for them.

Or if you want a challenge like me. You take an a-level in maths in the last year as well as the extended diploma and shoot for places like Bristol, Cambridge and Sheffield.
Reply 193
Original post by ClawlessRaver
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Going by your own subject choices/grades, you're not exactly what people would seriously call a snob either. BCD? You really are making yourself sound hard done by...

Did you not know that if you have less than AAB at A-level and 10 A* at GCSE on TSR in serious academic subjects, you're virtually a retard by TSR's standards?!
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Reply 194
Original post by Threxy
Did you not know that if you have less than AAB at A-level and 10 A* at GCSE on TSR in serious academic subjects, you're virtually a retard by TSR's standards?!


I didn't get any GCSEs above grade C, but TSR isn't an official student forum unlike the official UCAS YouGo forums for applicants and students, so in their forum (which I haven't been to yet) they don't have very high standards as UCAS are meant to help the students on their way to applying etc.

People with the negative views on BTEC probably dislike it due to the entry into University - as an alternative route to so many qualifications - rather than a step straight into employment. BTEC is made in a way that you can gain access to university because it is so much harder to get a job without a degree - a decent well earning job that is.

I'm probably asking myself the question why am I posting in such a forum where there are so many people who claim to be the smartest students in the country post here aswell. There could just be a forum where it would be just BTEC related and no debates etc - I could have made a separate thread for this but I prefer to state this before this thread will be closed, which I have no doubt that it will.

This whole thread is meant to be discussed about what the OP has said, no more discussions whether A levels are equivalent to BTECs or not otherwise I assume you are just trolling the thread (those people know who they are) to annoy people, as that is what the other threads are for.

Have a good day!

PS. Any future posts should be considered carefully as this is TSR and they expect you to be one of the most intelligent people in the country (or world) and these people don't give a **** about what they think are 'meaningless' qualifications.
Reply 195
I did a BTEC because i know i wanted to specialise within Wildlife Conservation, and the BTEC i chose was Animal Management. Was able to do the modules i would expect to do out in the real world.. (Ecology, amazingly important for conservation, and understanding animals in general!) I would be stuffed i think if i didnt do a BTEC i found it a lot more useful and the fact there is the pratical aspect, so your one step ahead of the A-Level lot in once sence (might have had more experence within the industry)... but behind the A-Level lot with course work and exams. Exams were the hardest thing to get my head around, at uni now doing what i want to do in the real world..

My uni course is nice and pratical (last two weeks, been tree surveying and IDing and BMWP praticals) and i am about to start a bird ringing course (to get licence) and talking with organisations around nottingham in getting a Great Crested Newt licence so i am able to work with them as well as survey them. -- There isn't much point in a theory course for a pratical industry, lol..

I think BTECs are good for dyslexics, i know its helped me get more confidence within my work, im more of a pratical learner so that's always useful..

Nottingham Trent University, In My Opinion is the best uni in the UK.. billion times better than the arrogent lectures at Reading!



What annoys me is when people say A-Levels are for the smart kids and BTECs are for the thick ones... They have no idea. I rekon i will have a job after my degree than my brother who has finished his degree with a 2:1 but it was in forensics and he's having a hell of a time to find a job, and he did A-Levels... I already have links in the UK (Wildlife Rehab Centre) and one in Israel (specalising in birds)...
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Reply 196
It's interesting how average A-level grades have risen by nearly a quarter, 24%, since the 1990s. (link)

Over the same period the International Baccalaureate grades have risen by 4.5%.

According to Robert Coe's survey, A-level grades in 2006 were graded on average two grades higher than they would have been in 1988 - the year before I left school. In 2010 27% scored an A grade. In 1988 15% did.

The pass rate has risen for 29 years running. So many people were getting the highest grade possible (everyone's a winner these days) that they had to introduce the A* grade.

I don't think A-levels have any academic credibility left.
Reply 197
Original post by nmr1991
I didn't get any GCSEs above grade C, but TSR isn't an official student forum unlike the official UCAS YouGo forums for applicants and students, so in their forum (which I haven't been to yet) they don't have very high standards as UCAS are meant to help the students on their way to applying etc.

People with the negative views on BTEC probably dislike it due to the entry into University - as an alternative route to so many qualifications - rather than a step straight into employment. BTEC is made in a way that you can gain access to university because it is so much harder to get a job without a degree - a decent well earning job that is.

I'm probably asking myself the question why am I posting in such a forum where there are so many people who claim to be the smartest students in the country post here aswell. There could just be a forum where it would be just BTEC related and no debates etc - I could have made a separate thread for this but I prefer to state this before this thread will be closed, which I have no doubt that it will.

This whole thread is meant to be discussed about what the OP has said, no more discussions whether A levels are equivalent to BTECs or not otherwise I assume you are just trolling the thread (those people know who they are) to annoy people, as that is what the other threads are for.

Have a good day!

PS. Any future posts should be considered carefully as this is TSR and they expect you to be one of the most intelligent people in the country (or world) and these people don't give a **** about what they think are 'meaningless' qualifications.

I was actually joking. If you read some of my earlier posts on this thread, you would see that. I am a retard by TSR's standards too. lol.

But seriously, I've done both in the past (BTEC and A-levels), and all I see with these threads are a few people who apparently do A-levels pick them to troll on and get their kicks out of annoying BTEC students. Then there's people who will moan and moan about universities accepting BTECs, I remember when I first joined this forum, one of the first threads I found was a guy bitching about his course at KCL letting BTEC students despite them doing "an easier qualification". There's many similar threads and played out just like this. I honestly don't know why you should particularly care what other students do or did before uni, it's pretty sad that you get people who are like that, though.
I know someone who completely failed their A-levels, and went on to do a BTEC in Performing Arts and achieving a Triple Distinction.

It largely depends on what subject you want to study and how much effort you put into it. I don't think BTECs are at all worthless.
Original post by Jabberwox
I know someone who completely failed their A-levels, and went on to do a BTEC in Performing Arts and achieving a Triple Distinction.

It largely depends on what subject you want to study and how much effort you put into it. I don't think BTECs are at all worthless.


This may be down the "super market" effect.

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