Caught Shoplifting....

OP still not back. The suspense is killing me.

If performance is so much governed by measurable statistics like parental earnings, area, school... Then how can you explain that people in my school, who have grown up in the same area as me, with more affluent parents than me, been taught by the same teachers in the same room for the 7 years (was a 6th form) and the 5 or so before, can have achieved such different things? How can we have people who have done this and are now doing great subjects at Cambridge and we have in fact more people who are scraping in UWE, oxford brookes etc.. with some not even bothering to go to university and everything in between. How can this explain a difference that spans the entire further education spectrum from an almost completely homogeneous group of kids (It's very homogeneous here, small town small school virtually the same childhoods and parent income.)

I posit that the vastly determinant factor here is the personality and natural intelligence of the individual!

P.s sociology at A-level should not be flaunted. Hide it, hide it well.

Ah no I didn't mean that stealing is the major factor, the downturn is of course the main thing. The point is that on top of all the crap stores are dealing with from poor sales, stealing hurts them further so it's as if it's extra unfair in these times. Sorry if that was unclear. Well stealing is what's noticed by store managers and security moreso than staff, and it's the stocktake that reveals how bad it is.

Yes it is the store implementing their policies but it is highly unfair if people didn't bring back extra change if they knew that the operator would then head for a warning. The point is that people assume that it's the actual head office who are able to absorb the loss without realising that shoplifting and the backlash over till shortages affect particular people and particular stores.

I can tell you that Dunnes and Tesco implement the warning thing. Xtra-vision, newsagents and pubs make people pay it back themselves- unfortunately this tends to be stores where several people use the one till so a loss affects everyone. It's not big corporations that do that, it's the very small ones.

It's really easy to lose money from your till, especially if you're on it for your whole shifts all the time, in a really busy store where you're under pressure to clear the queue. It can be from cashback you forgot to give to someone, being the victim of a change scam, or something stupid like giving out two 10's instead of 1 because they're so crisp they're stuck together. Or your till could have an incorrect float or be counted off wrong. It's not as if you have to lose £20 to have your loss noted down- plenty of places start highlighting at £2 or less.

Her parents have probably stopped her from using the internet/grounded her till she's 65

Did her parents destroy her laptop and post it on youtube as well?

Did her parents destroy her laptop and post it on youtube as well?

Because I don't like giving my money to multi-million worth businesses.

Ok, I know we shouldn't of done it but.... It happened.


Well aren't you an idiot. You might as well leave here, as your never going to be a student. Messing up your whole life for a few cosmetics? You need to smack your head against a brick walk girly.

Ah well, another person to spunk my tax on their council housing and 35 kids.

People like you make me sick.

You have more to worry about than what your parents think. I would be ashamed of you tbh.

Who are you to judge what is right or wrong?

You think the big companies can't afford a few things going missing?

Wow, don't listen to these people. They know absolutely nothing, obviously. You will generally only need to declare it if you are going into a job working with vulnerable people, law, things like that. Even so, declaring it will NOT stop them from hiring you. In some cases if you can really explain how it has taught you something valuable it might even go in your favour. It will not prevent you from going to university either. If you want to do certain courses such as social work, nursing etc. then you will need to declare it and have a CRB check but, again, it might even work in your favour. I got a reprimand for shoplifting when I was 16 - I'm 19 now and have had CRBs to work in the care sector (with vulnerable people) and have just had an offer from Bath university to study social work there. Ignore these people please! Shoplifting when you're 17 is a minor offence. Employers/ admissions tutors will be looking more for your skills etc. than whether you once made the silly mistake of shoplifting when you were young and naive - it's a mistake that many make, so don't worry.

Oh, and with regards to "you will have to declare it for the rest of your life" - that is nonsense. It is written of after 5 years.