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Lesbian Relationship in a Kid's Show!

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Original post by The_Internet
I think grange hill was the very first, weren't they? To have a gay kiss as well?


First to broadcast gay kiss was Eastenders, I think. In the UK, anyway.

Original post by KingStannis
Why does your thing say offline when you're clearly online? Or do you keep opening and closing the tab for no reason?


Appear as invisible :tongue:
Original post by shadowdweller
First to broadcast gay kiss was Eastenders, I think. In the UK, anyway.


Ah fair enough, but that's a more "adult" show and Grange hill was definitely a kids show :smile:

Doctor who also has a lesbian AND interspecies relationship - how that quite works, I dont quite know :s-smilie:
Original post by The_Internet
It's hardly any different than Asian people having relationships on TV. They're also quite "rare" Except of course, the difference here is that it's two gay people, instead of two straight people. Both are minorities. And tbh, it might make it a bit more socially acceptable which is a plus :smile:


The difference is its a kids show....

I'm not bothered about socially acceptable
Original post by bittr n swt
The difference is its a kids show....

I'm not bothered about socially acceptable


Would you be cool with having two Asian people having a relationship on a kids show? Or a "normal" ie: white hetero relationship on a kids show?
Original post by shadowdweller
First to broadcast gay kiss was Eastenders, I think. In the UK, anyway.



Appear as invisible :tongue:


I'm so ignorant of the administrative side of tsr lol. Why though?
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Original post by The_Internet
Ah fair enough, but that's a more "adult" show and Grange hill was definitely a kids show :smile:

Doctor who also has a lesbian AND interspecies relationship - how that quite works, I dont quite know :s-smilie:


As did Torchwood if I can recall :yep:
Original post by IDukem
As did Torchwood if I can recall :yep:


This is true, though Torchwood isn't a kids show and that was quite sexual :tongue:
Reply 27
I don't really see it as a problem in my humble opinion. If children see homosexual relationships early on within the context of their childhood programmes, they may be more acceptant of homosexuality as they grow older or better yet accept it is what it is straight of the bat. This in turn would hopefully help people who are scared to publicly state that they're homosexual to essentially speak out with some level of confidence :smile:

Original post by The_Internet
This is true, though Torchwood isn't a kids show and that was quite sexual :tongue:


That is true enough, but I just wanted people to remember that scene :wink:
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Original post by SmashConcept
The kids in the music video to All The Things She Said by t.a.T.u. were lesbians too :yy:



I remember watching this video for the first time with my brother aaaaages ago and we were like, "This is new!" To be honest, we were more shocked to find out they were never lesbian lovers, just friends. :lol:
Original post by IDukem
I don't really see it as a problem in my humble opinion. If children see homosexual relationships early on within the context of their childhood programmes, they may be more acceptant of homosexuality as they grow older or better yet accept it is what it is straight of the bat. This in turn would hopefully help people who are scared to publicly state that they're homosexual to essentially speak out with some level of confidence :smile:



That is true enough, but I just wanted people to remember that scene :wink:


Made me laugh. Have some rep!

But yeah, it stops people having issues with gay people earlier on in life. I think they're also pushing more Muslim kids (or people pretending to be Muslims) in TV now as well, to try and combat anti-Muslim sentiments, as well as anti-gay sentiments at the same time

I think that eventually the entire country will be relatively cool with it. I say relatively as racism is still prevalent (Even amongst young people) today, but it's no where near as bad as it was a few decades ago.
Original post by The_Internet
This is true, though Torchwood isn't a kids show and that was quite sexual :tongue:


I think 'quite' is pushing it a bit :tongue: The second episode will always stick in my mind

IIRC, it isn't a 'lesbian relationship' - the creator confirmed that both of the characters were bisexual, not lesbian (although I'm not a fan, so I could be wrong)
Original post by SleepingStag
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I love the show and I was hoping they would end up together at the end.

Here are the tumblr posts written by the show's creators talking about the ending

I think this is especially important: "Was it a slam-dunk victory for queer representation? I think it falls short of that, but hopefully it is a somewhat significant inching forward."

He admits that they could have done more, left no room for doubt. It's terrible that they felt they couldn't even show a kiss, as they did for numerous heterosexual couples, but it is still more than most shows (for kids or adults) have done.
Original post by Queen Cersei
I heard Frozen has a homosexual relationship in and every child under the sun seems to have seen that!


It's a bit of a stretch, though. You only see one of the characters allegedly in the relationship for a second.
Bill & Ben seemed to have an understanding...
Original post by AlanaBloom
I think 'quite' is pushing it a bit :tongue: The second episode will always stick in my mind

IIRC, it isn't a 'lesbian relationship' - the creator confirmed that both of the characters were bisexual, not lesbian (although I'm not a fan, so I could be wrong)


Semantics really. They're bisexual but the relationship itself was two girls
I knew this was going to be about the Legend of Korra before I clicked on the thread :rofl:

I loved it to be honest. It was ambiguous but you could tell. There should have been more of a romantic build-up between them but you could tell that they were getting really close in the last series so it wasn't 'completely out of nowhere' either.
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Original post by The_Internet
Made me laugh. Have some rep!

But yeah, it stops people having issues with gay people earlier on in life. I think they're also pushing more Muslim kids (or people pretending to be Muslims) in TV now as well, to try and combat anti-Muslim sentiments, as well as anti-gay sentiments at the same time

I think that eventually the entire country will be relatively cool with it. I say relatively as racism is still prevalent (Even amongst young people) today, but it's no where near as bad as it was a few decades ago.


Cheers, I repped you back just cause :lol:

I honestly hadn't noticed that until you just told me, I can see your point there.

As a majority I guess, this day and age are fully acceptant of homosexuality and transsexualism, plus I agree that racism is lower right now than it certainly in the 1930s for example. As a whole though, I agree that the majority of today's society is acceptant of the homosexuality and because there's not much of taboo on this subject any more, it's became safer to use homosexual relationships in the media and for me personally, that's a good thing :smile:

Original post by AlanaBloom
I think 'quite' is pushing it a bit :tongue: The second episode will always stick in my mind

IIRC, it isn't a 'lesbian relationship' - the creator confirmed that both of the characters were bisexual, not lesbian (although I'm not a fan, so I could be wrong)


Still a lesbian interaction, but fair point.

I'm not a fan of Tortchwood either fan either, I just remembered that particular episode! :tongue: It came on one day and i wanted to know what Torchwood was and then bam! That happened :lol:
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Original post by Stevo F
I remember watching this video for the first time with my brother aaaaages ago and we were like, "This is new!" To be honest, we were more shocked to find out they were never lesbian lovers, just friends. :lol:

And according to wikipedia their producer got the idea from the video by searching the internet for child porn and not finding anything he thought was good enough.

I'm bisexual and as a kid I was never sure of same-sex relationships. I knew I liked girls, but thought I had to only like boys, making it quite confusing even when I was 10-11 years old. So it's nice to make it seem normal for children who are not straight.
Original post by bittr n swt
You have an indirect control I believe as the western world are obsessed with equality between hetero and homo. Eg Eurovision

Little or not it's a kids show.... It would be bizarre especially if kids have never seen it before as they may not have been told at school.


Having a show like that would have totally reassured me, as I had some girl crushes as well as boy crushes, but never ever saw it as normal and hid it as long as I could.

I perfectly well that I liked both genders since I was very young, so kids show or not, it's relevant.

Once, I thought I was the only 9 year old who like both boys and girls, and I considered it was a mental disease or some freaky curse. I was nearly going to tell my parents to take me to the hospital to get 'medicine' for it, spending nights worrying about it.

I never thought being bisexual was bad, but with no education on it, and no representation of people like me, I felt very distant from everyone else. TV shows are very popular with young children and introduce to you people outside of your regular group, including people of different races, disabilities or simply even different accents.

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