Mi5 careers

Are all positions at MI5 'Intelligence Officer'? Cause thats the only position it requires discretion for, surely there must be more than one job there, all of which im guessing can be freely discussed with that one exception

Discretion is an integral part of working for MI5, so before you consider applying, ask yourself this: would you be content for your own and your team's successes to remain unknown outside the intelligence community?.

No, the discretion quote applies to all positions at MI5.

[RE: Intelligence Officer positons] Discretion is important to the Service, so please only discuss this application with your partner and/or immediate family.

Well then now I'm getting confused

how do people feel about this? i mean all that effort and NO recognition outside. tough

Ages ago I was looking at the jobs they offer and I imagine it would be quite a good job to have but not being able to tell anyone what you do (apart from a few exceptions) would just be a bit weird. You'd have to make your life up when you meet new people etc and I don't think I could do it. I'd probably end up getting caught out eventually too.

Would you say that it is fine for me to tell everyone that I'm applying to MI5 then?

Ages ago I was looking at the jobs they offer and I imagine it would be quite a good job to have but not being able to tell anyone what you do (apart from a few exceptions) would just be a bit weird. You'd have to make your life up when you meet new people etc and I don't think I could do it. I'd probably end up getting caught out eventually too.

yh, and i mean how would you go about making up your life, somtimes you need proof and ****. would they tailor it all for you? also playing dumb about something you know really well just seems, unfair i guess? 0 recognition can make things seem pointless.

you'd have to write a diary detailing your lies...so as not to forget what lie/s you've said, when you said them, where you said them, who you said it/them to....total mind-****

Yeah and then make sure no one finds it lol.

yh, and i mean how would you go about making up your life, somtimes you need proof and ****. would they tailor it all for you? also playing dumb about something you know really well just seems, unfair i guess? 0 recognition can make things seem pointless.

Can i just say for all we know he could apply to be a chef in their catering ar an IT problem solving person or a cleaner.

No recognition
Low Pay
Bad hours
Potential danger
A life of dishonesty with friends and extended family.

Wow, i'm dying to join!....not...it's a **** job people!

And also, all those argueing about it, get out more folks, you're being complete losers!

There's no reason to attack others simply because you think its a bad job. I would happily get involved, some people would gladly earn just enough to live if it meant working to protect others. Satisfaction in life does not just come from earning a good wage. Look around you, there is a great deal of suffering in this world, a huge amount caused by criminals, terrorism etc. Would you not receive quiet gratification in knowing you had helped protect others from potential harm? I would, and many others would too. People are not drawn to such roles purely through media hype. These people allow your high paying, safe, 'honest' job to sit safely in society with little danger. Without such roles it would be a more dangerous world to live in. It is foolish to belittle such people. They work extremely hard doing good work, it is a shame some people don't appreciate it. We should respect these people and the roles they play. In my opinion, to work in a job that involves protecting the nation is the pinnacle of all potential employment. I would be proud to work in a role such as this with absolutely no recognition. In relation to your specific points of what makes this a bad job, what you consider to be limitations when choosing these roles further shows the calibre of the people who work them, they are prepared to help and protect without being told 'good boy' (or girl) by everyone, for everything they do. Knowledge that they are doing so much for us is enough. I wouldn't want anyone else watching my back. So do not criticise or attempt to belittle others for wanting to be involved in such a brilliant and integral part of our society. To the intelligence forces, keep up the good work.

Are you really expecting them to read that four years on?

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Edit: Also when you say 'keep up the good work' within two months of that post there was a terrorist attack that killed over 40 people...

I was making a point to whoever reads it. Without the security forces there would be many more problems. They work hard. They deserve respect.

You say that but your argument works in line with the reasoning of people who are all about the '**** the police' well in actual fact the only reason they can live safely is because the police force exists.

A lot more bad would have and will happen, without their efforts. They do good work and protect us.