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Reply 1
I don't mean to put a dampener on things but I doubt that a degree from Cranfield University, no matter how specialised it is, will necessarily "guarantee" you a career in F1.
Reply 2
Recusant
I don't mean to put a dampener on things but I doubt that a degree from Cranfield University, no matter how specialised it is, will necessarily "guarantee" you a career in F1.


is cranfield university not very respected then? i am not too hot on post graduate studies unis
Reply 3
jamierwilliams
is cranfield university not very respected then? i am not too hot on post graduate studies unis


surely the fact that this course is supported by WilliamsF1 means that it must have some credibility
Reply 4
Whilst in academic circles Cranfield isn't the most prestigious of institutions it maintains decent links with industry particularly in the areas related to fluids and aerodynamics :smile: They have some useful test facilities (i.e. wind tunnels) at Cranfield which industry often uses. One of the engines I worked on during a summer vac was tested at Cranfield :smile:
Reply 5
On all of the websites for careers in F1 it states that jobs are usually offered to people already within F1....and then you go to another website and it says the same (for a different company of course), so where on earth are people meant to start an F1 career?
Reply 6
jamierwilliams
On all of the websites for careers in F1 it states that jobs are usually offered to people already within F1....and then you go to another website and it says the same (for a different company of course), so where on earth are people meant to start an F1 career?

With difficulty! Cambridge Engineering Department runs a few 4th year projects every year in conjunction with McLaren and a few of those people will move on to full-time employment post-graduation.

I guess that they just headhunt and look for new people when and if they need them.
Reply 7
shiny
With difficulty! Cambridge Engineering Department runs a few 4th year projects every year in conjunction with McLaren and a few of those people will move on to full-time employment post-graduation.

I guess that they just headhunt and look for new people when and if they need them.

Now that would be a dream job - Imola, Monaco, Indiannapolis etc. Amazing salary, pit girls, tax free?

Why can't I become an engineer now?

I remember - because I'm entering a profession where the top jobs are attainable. :wink:
Reply 8
shiny
With difficulty! Cambridge Engineering Department runs a few 4th year projects every year in conjunction with McLaren and a few of those people will move on to full-time employment post-graduation.

I guess that they just headhunt and look for new people when and if they need them.


thats brilliant....you probably know thats where I hope to go .....what kind of project do they do (something to do with computational fluid mechanics/dynamics?)?....also, would a company like mclaren allow employees/graduates to obtain chartered status or would you have to do something else first?
Reply 9
mobbdeeprob
Now that would be a dream job - Imola, Monaco, Indiannapolis etc. Amazing salary, pit girls, tax free?

Why can't I become an engineer now?

I remember - because I'm entering a profession where the top jobs are attainable. :wink:


is that law? if so, there is one comapny in the city where the chance of becoming a partner is under 1%!!!!!
Reply 10
jamierwilliams
thats brilliant....you probably know thats where I hope to go .....what kind of project do they do (something to do with computational fluid mechanics/dynamics?)?....also, would a company like mclaren allow employees/graduates to obtain chartered status or would you have to do something else first?

I think there are some in Fluids and some in Control Systems Engineering (the Head of the Department Keith Glover is meant to be the tops in Control Theory :smile: ). I don't really know that much because the projects are *secret* and you have to sign a non-disclosure agreement before you start. Only the examiners and McLaren themselves are allowed to know the details :smile:

I am sure McLaren supports employees working towards Chartered Status :smile: It's in their interest really to have the best, most qualified and happy workforce.
Reply 11
shiny
I think there are some in Fluids and some in Control Systems Engineering (the Head of the Department Keith Glover is meant to be the tops in Control Theory :smile: ). I don't really know that much because the projects are *secret* and you have to sign a non-disclosure agreement before you start. Only the examiners and McLaren themselves are allowed to know the details :smile:


why are you smiling so much? its not a bad thing but i keep seeing :smile: :smile: when you write.
are you in love?
jamierwilliams
is that law? if so, there is one comapny in the city where the chance of becoming a partner is under 1%!!!!!

I'm just being deliberately abrasive, lol. Although having said that, my main point is that being an F1 engineer must rank alongside being a NASA engineer in terms of inaccesibility? I personally know highly salaried solicitors and barristers - and even the odd partner of a big firm. I don't know a single F1 engineer though :biggrin: .
Reply 13
chats
why are you smiling so much? its not a bad thing but i keep seeing :smile: :smile: when you write. are you in love?

Just very smiley :smile:
Reply 14
shiny
Just very smiley :smile:


:smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:
theyve even taken over you signature!
Reply 15
mobbdeeprob
I'm just being deliberately abrasive, lol. Although having said that, my main point is that being an F1 engineer must rank alongside being a NASA engineer in terms of inaccesibility? I personally know highly salaried solicitors and barristers - and even the odd partner of a big firm. I don't know a single F1 engineer though :biggrin: .


fair point! :smile:
Reply 16
shiny
I think there are some in Fluids and some in Control Systems Engineering (the Head of the Department Keith Glover is meant to be the tops in Control Theory :smile: ). I don't really know that much because the projects are *secret* and you have to sign a non-disclosure agreement before you start. Only the examiners and McLaren themselves are allowed to know the details :smile:

I am sure McLaren supports employees working towards Chartered Status :smile: It's in their interest really to have the best, most qualified and happy workforce.


Is control systems a project you do when you have done the systems and control modules?
Reply 17
in 3rd and 4th year i hope to do these modules if i get into cam....

3rd:

Fluid Mechanics I (double)
Fluid Mechanics II (double)
Machine Design - Transmission
Systems & Control

4th:

Computational fluid dynamics
Aerodynamics
Control system design
Advanced computational fluid dynamics
Reply 18
jamierwilliams
Is control systems a project you do when you have done the systems and control modules?

At the end of the third year the Department publishes a list of projects. You pick the a few that interest you and matches your skills and then you discuss it with the supervisor :smile: They will then decide whether you want to take you on as a project student (you might have competition).
Reply 19
shiny
At the end of the third year the Department publishes a list of projects. You pick the a few that interest you and matches your skills and then you discuss it with the supervisor :smile: They will then decide whether you want to take you on as a project student (you might have competition).


and mclaren sponsors a couple of the projects, i assume?

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