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Is this legal ??

Hey hopefully some of you can help me.

I have been working for a company for over 2 years now and the contract I signed was for £5.60 and hour. However in the last 6 months they have increased the hourly wage stated in the contracts to £6 an hour. Therefore, people starting employment more recently are getting £6 an hour whereas I am only getting £5.60 an hour ( even though ive been there 2 years longer)

When challenged about this my employers said they only had to pay what was stated in the contract that was signed when we started.

However, I was just wondering if they were allowed to do this and pay people different wages for doing the exact same job?
The Equal Pay Act 1970 makes it unlawful for employers to discriminate between men and women in terms of their pay and conditions where they are doing the same or similar work; work rated as equivalent; or work of equal value.



The Act applies to both men and women but does not give anyone the right to claim equal pay with a person of the same sex. In other words, any comparison must be with a person of the opposite sex.
Negotiate for a pay rise - otherwise leave.
Reply 3
Perfectly legal. Your work place blatantly has no respect for its older staff, so I'd recommend telling them you'll quit if you dont get equal pay, unless you REALLY need that job.
Reply 4
Ask them to renegotiate your contract - they probably will if you're any good at it, as they don't want to train new staff who would also cost them £6 per hour.
Reply 5
Clubber Lang
The Act applies to both men and women but does not give anyone the right to claim equal pay with a person of the same sex. In other words, any comparison must be with a person of the opposite sex.

That's ridiculous. Is there not an act somewhere else that says if two people - no matter what sex - are employed doing the same job, they have the right to be paid the same amount for it?

Seems a bit strange that if there's a woman doing the same job as me getting paid more, I can claim under the 1970 Act, but if it's a man, I don't have any legislation to help me. Bit odd?
Worzo
That's ridiculous. Is there not an act somewhere else that says if two people - no matter what sex - are employed doing the same job, they have the right to be paid the same amount for it?

Seems a bit strange that if there's a woman doing the same job as me getting paid more, I can claim under the 1970 Act, but if it's a man, I don't have any legislation to help me. Bit odd?


The men/women thing is absically designed to stop men getting paid more as that happened traditonally.

the thing this OP is talking about it slightly different - its not discrimination based on sex. its acceptable udner law because of his contract.

in his situation i would def ask for the rise or leave - but not something i'd take to a tribunal.
Reply 7
Clubber Lang
The men/women thing is absically designed to stop men getting paid more as that happened traditonally.

the thing this OP is talking about it slightly different - its not discrimination based on sex. its acceptable udner law because of his contract.

in his situation i would def ask for the rise or leave - but not something i'd take to a tribunal.

Odd. So it seems that it's legal to discriminate against someone just because you don't like them? If I wanted to pay employee A £10/hour because I like him and employee B £5/hour for the same job because I don't like him, that's fine is it?

Just seems stupid. Why has the law not been extended beyond sexual discrimination? I'm surprised trade unions haven't been out on this one. I bet if you tried to pay someone less and they happened to be of a different race, or have a disability, you'd get busted. What next? Laws for discrimination of the grounds of hair colour? Let's face it, the law should rule on any discriminiation, regardless of the motive.
i think its baically because he has signed a previous contract..they liekd him enough to hire him.

maybe an employment specialist could find a gap but if they employers are being bastards aboiut it then its prob not worth the hassle.
Reply 9
Don't think there is any flaw here. It's well known that new people often get paid more than you, it's just because wages go up but they can put you up less as you already work there. If you don't like it then change job.
Reply 10
gerry
Hey hopefully some of you can help me.

I have been working for a company for over 2 years now and the contract I signed was for £5.60 and hour. However in the last 6 months they have increased the hourly wage stated in the contracts to £6 an hour. Therefore, people starting employment more recently are getting £6 an hour whereas I am only getting £5.60 an hour ( even though ive been there 2 years longer)

When challenged about this my employers said they only had to pay what was stated in the contract that was signed when we started.

However, I was just wondering if they were allowed to do this and pay people different wages for doing the exact same job?


Of course it's legal.
Reply 11
its not illegal, but if your employer is reasonable they should raise your pay.
where i work its the opposite, us older staff are on more than the newbies
it depends on how the pay system is structured

in somewhere with a transparent and published pay system generally people are o nthe same rate or range or rates for the same job and progression through a range of rates is time and /or competency based

(examples here are most public sector employers, plus employers where there is solid union/ professional organisation membership by individuals )

where pay rates are a secret free for all and he who can flannel best gets paid most ...

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