I can write a bunch of stuff about how civil service and solicitor roles won't require specific degrees, but since you're so adamant in your opinion I can only point you to official websites:
https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/solicitor
https://ipreg.org.uk/what-is-an-attorney/becoming-an-attorney
https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/how-to-become-intellectual-property-lawyer
https://www.legalcheek.com/lc-careers-posts/how-to-become-an-intellectual-property-lawyer/
https://www.prospects.ac.uk/job-profiles/patent-attorney
https://www.cipa.org.uk/how-to-become-a-chartered-patent-attorney/
https://www.thelawyerportal.com/careers/areas-of-law/how-to-become-a-corporate-lawyer-corporate-law/
https://uk.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/how-to-become-a-corporate-lawyer
https://www.brightnetwork.co.uk/career-profiles/corporate-lawyer/
Do note, you can do an SQE with an undergrad in any subject.
https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/diplomatic-service-officer
https://uk.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/how-to-become-a-diplomat
https://www.prospects.ac.uk/job-profiles/diplomatic-service-officer
https://www.faststream.gov.uk/diplomatic-service/index.html
In other words, you need even less to become a diplomat than you need to become a lawyer in corporate law or IP
If you're really pressing it, you can get second opinions from solicitors or diplomats. I very much doubt their opinions will differ that much from what I have laid out above.
https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/solicitor
https://ipreg.org.uk/what-is-an-attorney/becoming-an-attorney
https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/how-to-become-intellectual-property-lawyer
https://www.legalcheek.com/lc-careers-posts/how-to-become-an-intellectual-property-lawyer/
https://www.prospects.ac.uk/job-profiles/patent-attorney
https://www.cipa.org.uk/how-to-become-a-chartered-patent-attorney/
https://www.thelawyerportal.com/careers/areas-of-law/how-to-become-a-corporate-lawyer-corporate-law/
https://uk.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/how-to-become-a-corporate-lawyer
https://www.brightnetwork.co.uk/career-profiles/corporate-lawyer/
Do note, you can do an SQE with an undergrad in any subject.
https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/diplomatic-service-officer
https://uk.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/how-to-become-a-diplomat
https://www.prospects.ac.uk/job-profiles/diplomatic-service-officer
https://www.faststream.gov.uk/diplomatic-service/index.html
In other words, you need even less to become a diplomat than you need to become a lawyer in corporate law or IP
If you're really pressing it, you can get second opinions from solicitors or diplomats. I very much doubt their opinions will differ that much from what I have laid out above.
You've got loads of completely wrong assumptions in there, so many it's hard to know where to start - maybe just forget it all, because you are wrong in all material ways.
You should pick the subject you enjoy because you will most likely get the best grade with it, and it forms that foundation for the next 45 odd years of your life.
You didn't pick a worthless degree
Conversion to Law - no-one cares what your first degree is in, but yours is likely to give you a particularly strong start in fact.
Foreign Office/Most Masters want a social science? Whichever you mean it's complete nonsense
Fix it by learning to research from reliable sources and not listening to folks with one term's more experience than you!
You should pick the subject you enjoy because you will most likely get the best grade with it, and it forms that foundation for the next 45 odd years of your life.
You didn't pick a worthless degree
Conversion to Law - no-one cares what your first degree is in, but yours is likely to give you a particularly strong start in fact.
Foreign Office/Most Masters want a social science? Whichever you mean it's complete nonsense
Fix it by learning to research from reliable sources and not listening to folks with one term's more experience than you!
"As apparently, “do what you enjoy” as advice is worthless,"
It isn't worthless advice but it is dangerously simplistic. If you were a strong candidate for a maths or engineering degree - sure, you have a tough decision to make. Most people are not in that position as A levels force most people to specialise early.
"... but I’ve also heard (from careers) that some probably won’t like that I didn’t do business or economics..."
Who is 'careers'? They don't know what they are talking about. You will absolutely not get that advice from people involved in legal recruitment.
It isn't worthless advice but it is dangerously simplistic. If you were a strong candidate for a maths or engineering degree - sure, you have a tough decision to make. Most people are not in that position as A levels force most people to specialise early.
"... but I’ve also heard (from careers) that some probably won’t like that I didn’t do business or economics..."
Who is 'careers'? They don't know what they are talking about. You will absolutely not get that advice from people involved in legal recruitment.
Original post by ajj2000
"As apparently, “do what you enjoy” as advice is worthless,"
It isn't worthless advice but it is dangerously simplistic. If you were a strong candidate for a maths or engineering degree - sure, you have a tough decision to make. Most people are not in that position as A levels force most people to specialise early.
"... but I’ve also heard (from careers) that some probably won’t like that I didn’t do business or economics..."
Who is 'careers'? They don't know what they are talking about. You will absolutely not get that advice from people involved in legal recruitment.
It isn't worthless advice but it is dangerously simplistic. If you were a strong candidate for a maths or engineering degree - sure, you have a tough decision to make. Most people are not in that position as A levels force most people to specialise early.
"... but I’ve also heard (from careers) that some probably won’t like that I didn’t do business or economics..."
Who is 'careers'? They don't know what they are talking about. You will absolutely not get that advice from people involved in legal recruitment.
It's absolutely worthless advice to a teenager whose about to choose the career hell delve into for the next 30 years.
For literally any corporate job your degree doesnt matter.
What matters is that you're at a russel group now stop crying and start networking and getting internships
What matters is that you're at a russel group now stop crying and start networking and getting internships
Original post by username001345
It's absolutely worthless advice to a teenager whose about to choose the career hell delve into for the next 30 years.
Why? For many people it will be good advice. Most degrees don't lead directly to specific careers and of the people who do take degree courses which do lead to associated careers a significant proportion either don't ever work in that career or leave it within a few years.
The person posting it assumes you are going to stay in the same career for the next 30 years (most people change careers and the average is 4 times in a working life). The person posting also assumes that you can only do a career that you did a degree in, which is false.
I have seen people with degrees in geography, history, medicine (don't ask), physics, and engineering going into accounting for example. I also have seen people doing degrees in civil engineering doing something arty. Degrees are more flexible than that, although a lot of it doesn't require you to have a degree in the first place.
Note: the user meant "career hell" and "delve into the next 30 years". Delve is a verb. Having said that, it's an awkwardly structured sentence.
I have seen people with degrees in geography, history, medicine (don't ask), physics, and engineering going into accounting for example. I also have seen people doing degrees in civil engineering doing something arty. Degrees are more flexible than that, although a lot of it doesn't require you to have a degree in the first place.
Note: the user meant "career hell" and "delve into the next 30 years". Delve is a verb. Having said that, it's an awkwardly structured sentence.
Focus on your A levels for now. Strong grades may well be a larger factor than minor differences between universities and courses.
I've seen that Crazy Jamie has given you some advice about legal careers. That's a great start - they have real expertise - unlike most school advisors or 18 year olds on the internet.
For some research in the areas that interest you I would look for specialist forums where you can figure out which people commenting actively work in and recruit in the professions and job types which you are looking at. There are legal forums (and civil service ones) where you can get good advice from active practitioners. I suspect that if you go to Durham you will meet many children of partners in city law firms and senior civil servants.
Be cautious to stress that you are looking for UK specific advice and that you are not reading sections on Quora/ Reddit where most posters are from North America or India. The career paths and entry points can differ enough that advice given can be misleading.
I've seen that Crazy Jamie has given you some advice about legal careers. That's a great start - they have real expertise - unlike most school advisors or 18 year olds on the internet.
For some research in the areas that interest you I would look for specialist forums where you can figure out which people commenting actively work in and recruit in the professions and job types which you are looking at. There are legal forums (and civil service ones) where you can get good advice from active practitioners. I suspect that if you go to Durham you will meet many children of partners in city law firms and senior civil servants.
Be cautious to stress that you are looking for UK specific advice and that you are not reading sections on Quora/ Reddit where most posters are from North America or India. The career paths and entry points can differ enough that advice given can be misleading.
Original post by MindMax2000
Note: the user meant "career hell" and "delve into the next 30 years". Delve is a verb. Having said that, it's an awkwardly structured sentence.
The way I read it now (after having admittedly read it the way most others appear to) is "...whose [sic] about to choose the career he'll delve into for the next 30 years". I think there's a missing apostrophe. It's not hell, but he'll.
In any case, I agree that "do what you enjoy" often isn't particularly good advice. It depends on what you actually enjoy, which in educational terms often means an academic (i.e. non-vocational subject). It's probably quite rare to actually enjoy things which can be easily or clearly monetised. This doesn't mean you should eschew anything that isn't business, finance, healthcare or tech related, but before embarking on a degree I think you've got to have some awareness of what you can - realistically - do afterwards, and how to get there. I think the OP is more clued up than most people at their stage, though, so I am not specifically referring to them.
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