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Ucas advice needed immediately pleasem

im on a first gap year, i did my exams in 2022. I decided to do a level maths this year, to do a course at Warwick and I have an offer. However I’m pretty sure I’m gonna fail it, i spent all year trying to learn the content and gave up when it got too hard and left papers wayyyy to late.

im thinking if I withdraw now from ucas and exams , then i can still get a good enough predicted grade if I give it one more year . But if I fail, then they wont believe me if I have a high predicted? would this be the case? and would it be weird if i have a two year gap between my a levels in 2022 and maths that ill sit next year?

I don’t think it’s worth taking out huge loans to go to a university I don’t want to go to, and i dont want to settle. please someone give me advice. thank you

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Reply 1
Ahhh anyone please I only have tomorrow to withdraw
I wouldn't take out a loan to go to a university where I would not want to be. I would aim for a university where I would like to study. :smile:
Reply 3
Original post by beautifulworld
I wouldn't take out a loan to go to a university where I would not want to be. I would aim for a university where I would like to study. :smile:


so what should I do a level wise?
Original post by Fluffybubby
im on a first gap year, i did my exams in 2022. I decided to do a level maths this year, to do a course at Warwick and I have an offer. However I’m pretty sure I’m gonna fail it, i spent all year trying to learn the content and gave up when it got too hard and left papers wayyyy to late.

im thinking if I withdraw now from ucas and exams , then i can still get a good enough predicted grade if I give it one more year . But if I fail, then they wont believe me if I have a high predicted? would this be the case? and would it be weird if i have a two year gap between my a levels in 2022 and maths that ill sit next year?

I don’t think it’s worth taking out huge loans to go to a university I don’t want to go to, and i dont want to settle. please someone give me advice. thank you

Have you sat the exams yet? If you do sit the exams then you will need to declare that, including whatever results you get. You can of course retake in the following year, but that may or may not be an issue for some courses.

The matter of doing the A-level over 2 years vs 1 is going to be uni specific. I imagine most would not have an issue with it, although some may observe that by doing it over 2 years by itself, you might've had an easier chance of it with more time to focus on just 1 subject, instead of 3....although equally, you may well have been working simultaneously so they may not make any judgements due to not knowing the whole context.

Out of interest, what course did you apply to that you hold an offer for which requires A-level Maths? As most courses requiring A-level Maths do so because the course is necessarily mathematical, and normally will use the A-level Maths content from day 1 and build on that - often quite quickly. If you are struggling with A-level Maths as a single subject without any other courses alongside it, you may need to also take a moment to reflect on whether the course is actually a good option for you.
Reply 5
Original post by Fluffybubby
so what should I do a level wise?


What grade do you need and where are you at the moment?
Reply 6
Original post by artful_lounger
Have you sat the exams yet? If you do sit the exams then you will need to declare that, including whatever results you get. You can of course retake in the following year, but that may or may not be an issue for some courses.

The matter of doing the A-level over 2 years vs 1 is going to be uni specific. I imagine most would not have an issue with it, although some may observe that by doing it over 2 years by itself, you might've had an easier chance of it with more time to focus on just 1 subject, instead of 3....although equally, you may well have been working simultaneously so they may not make any judgements due to not knowing the whole context.

Out of interest, what course did you apply to that you hold an offer for which requires A-level Maths? As most courses requiring A-level Maths do so because the course is necessarily mathematical, and normally will use the A-level Maths content from day 1 and build on that - often quite quickly. If you are struggling with A-level Maths as a single subject without any other courses alongside it, you may need to also take a moment to reflect on whether the course is actually a good option for you.

Computer systems engineering. I also did do three a levels in one go with an AAB. I also sat cs a level this year on my own, and for that I know I did well. But for maths, I just didn’t contemplate how much work it would be, I spent most of the year trying to make the “most” out of my gap year by working and coding
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Reply 7
Original post by Muttley79
What grade do you need and where are you at the moment?


Don’t think I can get an A by Tuesday to be honest. I’ve done exam qs but never done a paper in actual conditions
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Reply 8
Original post by Fluffybubby
Don’t think I can get an A by Tuesday to be honest. I’ve done exam qs but never done a paper in actual conditions


Do a paper now and see how it goes.
Reply 9
Original post by Muttley79
Do a paper now and see how it goes.


What would happen if I get 0 or something, should I not do the exams? If I do badly, would I be able to scrounge enough marks for the next two papers?
Original post by Fluffybubby
Computer systems engineering. I also did do three a levels in one go with an AAB. I also sat cs a level this year on my own, and for that I know I did well. But for maths, I just didn’t contemplate how much work it would be, I spent most of the year trying to make the “most” out of my gap year by working.

CSE is a very mathematical course so I think if you are struggling with A-level Maths now, that might be a red flag you need to take note of and sit down and think carefully about exactly what it is you are struggling with why. As in that kind of course you'd be covering a similar range of material as A-level Maths, but at a higher level, in a shorter amount of time. So if you are struggling with balancing your time with A-level Maths, I think there is a real chance you would struggle with the course in balancing your other modules with the mathematical methods content (not to mention the actual mathematical material across all your modules).

If you aren't confident for the A-level exam then I think withdrawing from them now would be a prudent choice - although do actually see how you handle a practice paper in timed conditions (although, that you haven't done that yet makes me believe you may be underprepared...). I think it would also be prudent to really think about why you want to do CSE at degree level and whether that really is playing to your strengths and aptitudes or not. It's very well to think "I want to do X as a job so I need to do Y degree" but if you aren't well suited to the degree, then a) you may not be well suited to the job and b) even if you are, you may end up doing so poorly in the degree that the job in question isn't going to be a viable option anyway.
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Reply 11
Original post by artful_lounger
CSE is a very mathematical course so I think if you are struggling with A-level Maths now, that might be a red flag you need to take note of and sit down and think carefully about exactly what it is you are struggling with why. As in that kind of course you'd be covering a similar range of material as A-level Maths, but at a higher level, in a shorter amount of time. So if you are struggling with balancing your time with A-level Maths, I think there is a real chance you would struggle with the course in balancing your other modules with the mathematical methods content (not to mention the actual mathematical material across all your modules).

If you aren't confident for the A-level exam then I think withdrawing from them now would be a prudent choice - although do actually see how you handle a practice paper in timed conditions (although, that you haven't done that yet makes me believe you may be underprepared...). I think it would also be prudent to really think about why you want to do CSE at degree level and whether that really is playing to your strengths and aptitudes or not. It's very well to think "I want to do X as a job so I need to do Y degree" but if you aren't well suited to the degree, then a) you may not be well suited to the job and b) even if you are, you may end up doing so poorly in the degree that the job in question isn't going to be a viable option anyway.

but I know I am capable, I just left things too late and didn’t really realize how a level maths was or how it was assessed. My view was just textbook questions, didn’t realize papers would be such beasts and that was completely on my behalf for lack of practice, given I wasn’t in a school setting. Please don’t tell me to give up, I can’t mentally take that in right now. Thank you
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Reply 12
Sit a paper now to timed conditions - if you mess it up then withdraw.
Original post by Fluffybubby
What would happen if I get 0 or something, should I not do the exams? If I do badly, would I be able to scrounge enough marks for the next two papers?
Original post by artful_lounger
CSE is a very mathematical course so I think if you are struggling with A-level Maths now, that might be a red flag you need to take note of and sit down and think carefully about exactly what it is you are struggling with why. As in that kind of course you'd be covering a similar range of material as A-level Maths, but at a higher level, in a shorter amount of time. So if you are struggling with balancing your time with A-level Maths, I think there is a real chance you would struggle with the course in balancing your other modules with the mathematical methods content (not to mention the actual mathematical material across all your modules).

If you aren't confident for the A-level exam then I think withdrawing from them now would be a prudent choice - although do actually see how you handle a practice paper in timed conditions (although, that you haven't done that yet makes me believe you may be underprepared...). I think it would also be prudent to really think about why you want to do CSE at degree level and whether that really is playing to your strengths and aptitudes or not. It's very well to think "I want to do X as a job so I need to do Y degree" but if you aren't well suited to the degree, then a) you may not be well suited to the job and b) even if you are, you may end up doing so poorly in the degree that the job in question isn't going to be a viable option anyway.

i dont think its really fair to tell them to give up mainly because you cant really excel at any subject if you don't study for it.
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Original post by Fluffybubby
What would happen if I get 0 or something, should I not do the exams? If I do badly, would I be able to scrounge enough marks for the next two papers?


I think you're being too harsh on yourself, you're definitely capable of sitting exams judging by your A-level grades AAB so try to muster up some motivation to do a past paper now - I'm sure you'll find that you know more than you think and it may just be immense pre-exam stress that's making you think this negatively. You got this and don't let people tell you to give up! <33
Original post by Fluffybubby
but I know I am capable, I just left things too late and didn’t really realize how a level maths was or how it was assessed. My view was just textbook questions, didn’t realize papers would be such beasts and that was completely on my behalf for lack of practice, given I wasn’t in a school setting. Please don’t tell me to give up, I can’t mentally take that in right now. Thank you

I'm not saying "give up" I'm saying "consider all your options". There is no point in doggedly throwing yourself at a degree which you just don't have the aptitude for - you would be much better off doing one that plays directly to your strengths, doing very well in that, and going on from there. Ultimately the majority of graduates go into generalist grad roles which don't require any specific prior degree anyway, and for those generalist roles employers don't care whether you did theoretical quantum bioengineering or underwater basket weaving.

I'd also note that doing a course which matches your strengths well but doesn't fit into some preconceived notion of a "superior" course is not "settling" either.
Original post by lollapoalso
i dont think its really fair to tell them to give up mainly because you cant really excel at any subject if you don't study for it.

Advising someone to critically reflect on their strengths, reasons for choosing a particular course, and considering whether there are alternatives they hadn't considered is not "telling them to give up".
Original post by artful_lounger
Advising someone to critically reflect on their strengths, reasons for choosing a particular course, and considering whether there are alternatives they hadn't considered is not "telling them to give up".


but they dont know their strengths if they havent taken a reasonable go at it? they havent even done a paper how can they reflect on their strengths. they also did computer science a level so that does show some kind of liking to the course no? maths is a subject many take even though they hate it, and its just something u have to work at. im doing the same course as them at the same uni which is why i even commented on the thread, and i dont have an aptitude for maths. i only got it by working at it the past year.
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Reply 18
Original post by Muttley79
Sit a paper now to timed conditions - if you mess it up then withdraw.


I just spoke to someone and they said it would look worse to withdraw than to resit an exam? in your opinion, is that the case?
Reply 19
Original post by Fluffybubby
I just spoke to someone and they said it would look worse to withdraw than to resit an exam? in your opinion, is that the case?


No - if you withdraw there's no evidence you were ever entered for the exam - nothing on UCAS. If you take it and get a grade you have to declare that grade and resit.

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