The &quot;Is this university/course good enough for banking/consultancy?&quot; thread

Original post by T.Adams VI

However it's not the case when you start considering Warwick/UCL.

UCL is quite average for a lot of their science courses, in some cases poor. Warwick is quite average for almost everything bar maths/econs.

UCL has a lot of departments like English, Architecture, Medicine, Neuroscience, Law, Economics etc which are very good and for some better than their counterparts at Oxbridge, LSE or Imperial.

I agree that for every stellar department there is an average one but in my opinion UCL is the best uni in the country after these 4 and is certainly more "well-rounded" than warwick.

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Lakhvir.Singh

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Would doing Computer science at Nottingham or Birmingham allow me to go into banking?

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Original post by Frenchous

UCL has a lot of departments like English, Architecture, Medicine, Neuroscience, Law, Economics etc which are very good and for some better than their counterparts at Oxbridge, LSE or Imperial.

I agree that for every stellar department there is an average one but in my opinion UCL is the best uni in the country after these 4 and is certainly more "well-rounded" than warwick.

Lol in other words you think UCL is the 5th best, no need to try blow its trumpet. None of those courses you listed have better departments those that at Oxbridge/LSE/ICL AFAIK. English, Medicine, Law, Economics are all better at Oxbridge/LSE and Imperial if offered. Intrigued to know why you say that UCL is more 'well rounded' than Warwick when they offer a similar amount of courses..It's only people on here who reckon that Warwick's Maths/Econ/Business dept are the only departments with credibility..when the educated know that its more than that which puts the UCL on the map. You'd be able to say UCL is more 'well rounded' than LSE and Imperial' but who cares.

Original post by T.Adams VI

Warwick isn't a world leader in anything it does though, so it lacks that elitsm. It's the same with UCL.

Oxbridge = world leaders in almost everything they do. (Cambridge No 1 in world for maths IMO)

LSE = world leaders in economics/eocial sciences

Imperial = world leaders in engineering/sciences

If you go to one of these four the the marginal differences are miniscule. (unless cambridge mathmo)

However it's not the case when you start considering Warwick/UCL.

UCL is quite average for a lot of their science courses, in some cases poor. Warwick is quite average for almost everything bar maths/econs.

LSE is essentially a world leader in social sciences because of its Economics dept. To the average layman, the only LSE courses which would 'wow' you are the Economics, Law and maybe Government/International Relations..Aside from that, the other courses at LSE don't carry all that much prestige. By your thinking, LSE could also be considering average 'bar' a select few courses. I'm not dissing the other departments, they are all still 'very strong' but they are not 'world renowned'

I'm not sure what you'd define as average, but I'd agree that Warwick and UCL are probably amongst the likes of Durham, Bristol, St Andrews,etc once you ignore their flagship courses, but I'd wager that they have more then 2 very strong departments.

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Frenchous

Original post by Tsunami2011

Lol in other words you think UCL is the 5th best

Indeed the best after the 4th is the 5th. You got it, congratz. And indeed, I think UCL is the 5th uni in the country.

Original post by Tsunami2011

None of those courses you listed have better departments those that at Oxbridge/LSE/ICL AFAIK. English, Medicine, Law, Economics are all better at Oxbridge/LSE and Imperial if offered.

English at UCL is on par with Oxbridge, Law is on par with LSE, Medicine is on par with Imperial, Neuroscience is better than Oxbridge.

Original post by Tsunami2011

Intrigued to know why you say that UCL is more 'well rounded' than Warwick when they offer a similar amount of courses..It's only people on here who reckon that Warwick's Maths/Econ/Business dept are the only departments with credibility..when the educated know that its more than that which puts the UCL on the map. You'd be able to say UCL is more 'well rounded' than LSE and Imperial' but who cares.

Because "well rounded" means more top-rated departments. Both UCL and Warwick have a lot of departments but UCL has more top notch departments than Warwick.

And given this definition, UCL is not more well rounded than LSE or Imperial.

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English at UCL is on par with Oxbridge, Law is on par with LSE, Medicine is on par with Imperial, Neuroscience is better than Oxbridge.

Err no. UCL Law is not on par with LSE. LSE is closer to Oxbridge for Law than it is to UCL and often placed above Oxbridge for Law. English at UCL is not on par with Oxbridge. The UCL English dept doesn't seem to be anything more than marginally beter than the respective departments at Durham, St Andrews, Bristol,etc. Medicine may be correct. Oxbridge don't do Neuroscience at UG so that's not a hard feat. I guess you study at UCL, hence your inflated perception of it.

Because "well rounded" means more top-rated departments. Both UCL and Warwick have a lot of departments but UCL has more top notch departments than Warwick.

Fair enough.

EDIT: lol Negged by UCL fanboys :ahee:

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Frenchous

Original post by Tsunami2011

Err no. UCL Law is not on par with LSE. LSE is closer to Oxbridge for Law than it is to UCL and often placed above Oxbridge for Law. English at UCL is not on par with Oxbridge. The UCL English dept doesn't seem to be anything more than marginally beter than the respective departments at Durham, St Andrews, Bristol,etc. Medicine may be correct. Oxbridge don't do Neuroscience at UG so that's not a hard feat. I guess you study at UCL, hence your inflated perception of it.

Yes I go to UCL. I don't want to start a useless debate but UCL is famous for english and you obviously have no clue when you say UCL compares with Durham for that subject.

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braiiins

Original post by Tsunami2011

Oxbridge don't do Neuroscience at UG so that's not a hard feat.

Cambridge doesn't, but just take a look in the Oxford prospectus.

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Akkuz

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Does anyone know firms which are willing to pay for employees to undertake masters degrees or MBA's are working with for a few years?

So far I've only come across BCG. But I gather BCG is very difficult to get into?

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Original post by braiiins

Cambridge doesn't, but just take a look in the Oxford prospectus.

Oxford don't do it at undergraduate, hence that guy clutching at straws.

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fudgesundae

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Original post by Tsunami2011

Oxford don't do it at undergraduate, hence that guy clutching at straws.

Cambridge offer Neuroscience as the one of the specialisations in the NatSci course.

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braiiins

Original post by Tsunami2011

Oxford don't do it at undergraduate, hence that guy clutching at straws.

Oxford does do it at undergraduate! I was looking at applying for it.

http://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate_courses/courses/biomedical_sciences/biomedical_sciences.html "BA (Hons) Neuroscience".

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Zweihander

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Not going to get into the inane "my university is better than yours" debate, all I am going to say is that you would think having been on this site for 3 years certain individuals would have matured beyond such petty squabbles. Moreover the views expressed by these individuals do not actually even pertain to reality.

One thing I did want to mention is that in my experience from my spring weeks and numerous insight days and networking events, I have noticed that Oxbridge students tend to be nowhere are commercially aware and careers-focussed as their LSE, UCL & Warwick counterparts. If there was no bias in the system, I'm sure those three would be the three top targets.

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Sid K

I'm in the final year of my 3 year B.Com(Accounts) from the University of Mumbai.

I got a 740(97th pctl) on my GMAT.

I'm a fresher (no experience - finance or otherwise). I'm looking at doing the CFA Level I this June.

I know it's a bit late in the day to be asking this, and yet I ask - which are the best Masters courses in Finance in the UK, specifically in terms of employment prospects after the course (FO/MO/BO all ok)?

Is it only courses like the ones offered by Oxford, Warwick and LSE that enjoy favourable employment prospects?

I've seen the sticky re:'Top 20 UK unis for getting an IB Job', but that is for UG programs.

Are there any specific PG programs/Schools recognised particularly for Masters (like Cranfield) which are frequented by IBs, even if not as much as the Top 6 are?

Cass and ICMA have an entire portfolio of Finance Masters, Manchester has been right up there in the Graduate Recruitment statisitcs over the last 5 years or so. Edinburgh is the second largest financial centre in the UK after London.

Do any of these factors indicate a favourable IB standpoint, or are they just details and more details having no significance when it comes to recruitment by the IBs?

Most of Graduate Recruitment at IBs is based on previous internships at UG level. So for a fresher looking for a job with the IBs at the PG stage, is it worth looking beyond the top 6 at any of the said other Unis or is it pretty much gonna mean returning as I came?

And how would the courses in Rotterdam School of Management, St.Gallen and Bocconi compare with any of the aforementioned?

Any other course which suits my profile that I might have missed?

Any help in this regard will be sincerely appreciated (I'm in quite a state about this to be honest! The Career counselors here in India seem to be nothing more than inveterate Googlers!).

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OmnipotentOmelette

Quick question...

I've got offers from the following universities to study maths:
Warwick
Durham
St Andrews
Bristol

Which is best for an IB job (or any good job in the city.)?

The offer for Warwick is very difficult (it requires STEP which is a very hard maths exam), so if that is the best, which is second best? (because if Warwick is my firm then there is a chance I could not achieve the offer)

Thanks!

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Original post by OmnipotentOmelette

Quick question...

I've got offers from the following universities to study maths:
Warwick
Durham
St Andrews
Bristol

Which is best for an IB job (or any good job in the city.)?

The offer for Warwick is very difficult (it requires STEP which is a very hard maths exam), so if that is the best, which is second best? (because if Warwick is my firm then there is a chance I could not achieve the offer)

Thanks!

Warwick is the best by some way. Maths is 'arguably' what points it on the map :rolleyes:

Out of the rest take your pick, all are pretty equal.

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Hackett

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Original post by OmnipotentOmelette

Quick question...

I've got offers from the following universities to study maths:
Warwick
Durham
St Andrews
Bristol

Which is best for an IB job (or any good job in the city.)?

The offer for Warwick is very difficult (it requires STEP which is a very hard maths exam), so if that is the best, which is second best? (because if Warwick is my firm then there is a chance I could not achieve the offer)

Thanks!

As you say, Warick is definantly number 1.

Then Durham.. I know about 4 people who did maths at Durham who are now traders at Citi and JPM. That said, all the universities you have listed are good and will give you a good shot provided you have good work exp and good EC's.

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hash007

Do I need any work experience to get into IB internships over the summer 2013, I start uni in October (imperial) and I'm looking to do some extra curricular to boost my CV. What would you suggest I do? Is work experience in a normal bank okay (HSBC etc?)

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Hackett

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Original post by hash007

Do I need any work experience to get into IB internships over the summer 2013, I start uni in October (imperial) and I'm looking to do some extra curricular to boost my CV. What would you suggest I do? Is work experience in a normal bank okay (HSBC etc?)

Simple answer: Yes.

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