Iran sentence alcohol drinkers to death.

Okay, so you clearly don't know anything about post-1979 Iran.

Do they?

I was referring to Egypt and Turkey who you labelled as Islamist as that's somehow supposed to mean they're on the same level as Iran or Saudi Arabia.

Polls have proven you wrong. It's irrelevant whether you believe Muslims should support Sharia law. In the west, most Muslims don't in fact support it. In Syria, most don't and like Turkey's model of governance. There are few countries who have a Islamist state, others merely have a symbolic gesture of Islam as the state religion akin to Church of England being our state religion.

Iran this, Iran that. Why does everybody pick out the bad things of this country or there religion all the time. It's actually getting really annoying and I'm not even from Iran or muslim.



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Shia law, the person should instead be whipped tbh. But it also depends on the circumstances too I guess.



Yes because Iranians want to go back to secularism, and have Hijabs banned and be forced to wear suits and ties (hijab banning definitely helped the "revolution"). I take it you're a murtad or something and have some kind of zeal for religion? Because I've noticed a lot of bias from your posts.

I've spoken to many Shia Iranians (you know, the people who form up 90% or so of the population), and I strongly, (and I don't care if you're iranian) doubt that Iranians share your vision of "alcohol and gay people". Religion aside here too, it's not in "Iranian culture either" (well, I can't speak for Jahiliya days).

If I am right and you are an Iranian Murtad, then I wouldn't take anything you say about what "Iranians want" too seriously. There's millions of Iranians, who might not be "as practising" as their neighbours, but they certainly do adhere to their basic religious principles and I can definitely not imagine them endorsing alcohol and homosexuality. It sounds like your fantasy.

Try reading about Mujahedin (MEK or PMOI) for starters. Then Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan (DPKI). Then People's Resistance Movement of Iran (Jundullah) if you're still unconvinced.

They as in Iranians, or they as in the Iranian leadership?

Agreed. People follow the bias of the media and believe that all Iranians want secularism when in fact almost all Iranians follow basic Islamic principles and there have been numerous protests against secularism.

Agreed. People follow the bias of the media and believe that all Iranians want secularism when in fact almost all Iranians follow basic Islamic principles

and there have been numerous protests against secularism.

I'd love to hear a nice story coming out of the middle east for once. I can't remember ever hearing about anything good coming out of that sandy backwards ****hole.

Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan -

The Kurds rebelled in Iraq and Turkey.

I don't see how the Kurds in Iran also rebelling constitutes an ideological difference with the Iranian islamist regime given that they were also rebelling in Muslim countries with much more relaxed interpretations of Islam.

Jundullah -

In an October 17, 2008 interview aired on Al-Arabiya TV, its leader Abdolmalek Rigi stated the group had given "over 2,000 men" military, political and ideological training but that the number of its members "in the mountains does not exceed 200.

The group's (now dead) leader Abdolmalek Rigi, however, always denied the organization had any separatist agenda,[2][5][6][8] or foreign links, claiming that they merely fight for equal rights for Sunni Muslims in predominantly Shi'a Iran

So Jundullah is simply another facet of the big internal muslim civil war of shia's/sunnis. Given that most Iranian's are Shia, I'm not sure we can take claims that a terrorist organisation smuggling narcotics into Iran really constitute armed rebellion with the support of the wider populace.

MEK

They appear to be legit and a fair demonstration that not all Iranians are obedient towards the regime. I apologise for implying that Iranians have not rebelled, given that clearly several thousand fighters is a respectable figure. I will however note, that this is largely a historical organisation that lost a lot of support in 1985 when it rebased to Iraq during the Iranian-Iraqi war. Which raises questions about Iranian subservience to a theocratic regime in the years since, that they allegedly don't support - despite being co-religionists.

Both, the Iranian leadership and with the support of the population.

How can these cultures still believe in things like "sorcery" when we abandoned that BS half a millenium ago?

Eh? We finally stopped prosecuting people for witchcraft in 1951 with the Fraudulent Mediums Act, which abolished the 1541 Witchcraft Act. Have you not heard of Helen Duncan?

This is one case, was she executed, was their great controversy around it?

You tell me.

http://www.rferl.org/content/iran-alcohol-death-penalty/24625625.html

On other rediculous crimes, two people (seperate events) beheaded for "sorcery" in saudi arabia

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/8952641/Saudi-Arabia-execution-of-sorcery-woman-condemned.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18503550

Its happening here as well, multiculturalism eh?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police-to-be-given-specialist-training-to-help-child-victims-of-witchcraft-beliefs-7682466.html

4000-6000 LGBT people have been killed in Iran, various stonings of gay people or people dressed like westeners in Iraq, there are literally hundreds of cases.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Iran

How can these cultures still believe in things like "sorcery" when we abandoned that BS half a millenium ago?

That's what our government wants you to think, we need an enemy to distract us from revolting aginst them in our own country. If you go over there they're probably all lovely people.