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OK so I have a bit of a problem regarding my insurance

Basically I applied to do Psychology at Birmingham, Sussex, East Anglia, Exeter and Manchester, but I have decided to change courses to study History instead.

Sussex have changed my course to AAB and hopefully Birmingham will change my course (which will be an ABB offer). So basically I don't have an insurance, as either one will be my firm (hopefully Birmingham)!

I want East Anglia to be my insurance, but their History course also requires grades AAB-ABB, so that's out of the question. So I have 2 courses to choose from that allow me to have an insurance (grades BBB-BBC). These are 'American History with English History' (this involves a year abroad in US, Australia or Canada) or 'Philosophy with History'.

I've never studied American History or Philosophy, but both interest me slightly. My question is which degree would be better for future employability and hopefully becoming a journalist? And which one would you take and why?

Please help! I really can't decide and want to get this sorted out a.s.a.p! If anyone has experience of studying these subjects at any University any advice or information would be much appreciated!
Reply 1
I might be wrong, but people who have studied Philosophy are generally seen as people who can "think" and that is a plus for future job applications...


Then again, American History is very interesting, the question is, "do you want to go to USA/Canada/Australia for a year?"
Reply 2
ferdi.g
I might be wrong, but people who have studied Philosophy are generally seen as people who can "think" and that is a plus for future job applications...


Then again, American History is very interesting, the question is, "do you want to go to USA/Canada/Australia for a year?"


Yeah, I was thinking that philosophy may help more with journalism because it makes you question everything or something? :confused: you can tell I have no idea! I do like all aspects of History and having never studied American History obviously I'm intrigued, but my favourite part of History is Russian History, which obviously I would have to completely rule out of my degree if I did American and English History... but the year abroad sounds sooo amazing! This is such a dilemma!
Reply 3
First, wait until you have all your offers.

Then, ignore grades. Choose where you most want to go as your firm, and your 2nd favourite as your insurance. Some unis will be more lenient than others, and you may get offered an alternative course then.
Reply 4
Juno
First, wait until you have all your offers.

Then, ignore grades. Choose where you most want to go as your firm, and your 2nd favourite as your insurance. Some unis will be more lenient than others, and you may get offered an alternative course then.


I want Birmingham to be my firm (if not then Sussex) and East Anglia to be my insurance. I absolutely love all 3 of those Universities and cities, plus UEA is the only one to guarantee accommodation if you put them as your insurance and offer the lowest grades, so they are obviously a good choice for an insurance, especially as Sussex asks for higher grades than Birmingham, is lower in the league tables than UEA and does not guarantee accommodation if you put them as an insurance. I just can't decide which course to apply for at UEA!
Reply 5
Does anyone have any information about philosophy at degree (or even A level) that could help me decide? Like what is it about, what kind of things do you look at, discuss etc?
Instead of deciding "I want to go to UEA" work the other way around and actually consider these courses carefully - regardless of the amount of ducks, lakes and pretty things the UEA campus throws at you if you're on a course you don't enjoy then you won't be loving the the university.

If you want to do history it seems incredibly silly to opt for a philosophy course. If you take this one only 33% of your time will actually be spent doing history meaning given you've gone to the effort of changing your courses etc it is rather ironic if you go to a university and don't actually study history. The other course UEA have offered you does seem more applicable but you will have to read into it more and consider things such as do you actually want to go on a year abroad? If you don't want to and don't want to do a 4 year degree then there is little point accepting this offer. Similarly, look at the course information online - this degree will mean you're specialising in specific aspects of history so are you okay with this or would you be put out that you're not also studying Russian history, or somewhere else in the world? I envisage that within this course you will touch on the relations with Russia, particularly during the Cold War meaning you will still include Russian history in your work and you could do your dissertation etc on this topic. But you will have to look at the course information and check it out.

For both of these cases consider the course properly - if they weren't at UEA would you still be jumping at the chance to study philosophy with history? Probably not is the impression I get from this.

Similarly, as has been said - if Birmingham and Sussex are your favourites why not have one for your firm and another for your insurance? Your insurance doesn't have to be lower grades, it can be higher and many people have been rejected from their firm on results day but accepted to their insurance choice. Your insurance should be your second favourite not the one which only makes sense from a grades perspective as you actually have to go and live there for 3 or 4 years.
Reply 7
Juno
First, wait until you have all your offers.

Then, ignore grades. Choose where you most want to go as your firm, and your 2nd favourite as your insurance. Some unis will be more lenient than others, and you may get offered an alternative course then.


A bit silly to just say "Ignore grades" People have got to be realistic and go where they like but where they can get into. Silly choosing AAA if you know you can only get ABB.
Reply 8
oxymoronic
Instead of deciding "I want to go to UEA" work the other way around and actually consider these courses carefully - regardless of the amount of ducks, lakes and pretty things the UEA campus throws at you if you're on a course you don't enjoy then you won't be loving the the university.

If you want to do history it seems incredibly silly to opt for a philosophy course. If you take this one only 33% of your time will actually be spent doing history meaning given you've gone to the effort of changing your courses etc it is rather ironic if you go to a university and don't actually study history. The other course UEA have offered you does seem more applicable but you will have to read into it more and consider things such as do you actually want to go on a year abroad? If you don't want to and don't want to do a 4 year degree then there is little point accepting this offer. Similarly, look at the course information online - this degree will mean you're specialising in specific aspects of history so are you okay with this or would you be put out that you're not also studying Russian history, or somewhere else in the world? I envisage that within this course you will touch on the relations with Russia, particularly during the Cold War meaning you will still include Russian history in your work and you could do your dissertation etc on this topic. But you will have to look at the course information and check it out.

For both of these cases consider the course properly - if they weren't at UEA would you still be jumping at the chance to study philosophy with history? Probably not is the impression I get from this.

Similarly, as has been said - if Birmingham and Sussex are your favourites why not have one for your firm and another for your insurance? Your insurance doesn't have to be lower grades, it can be higher and many people have been rejected from their firm on results day but accepted to their insurance choice. Your insurance should be your second favourite not the one which only makes sense from a grades perspective as you actually have to go and live there for 3 or 4 years.


I don't think that I would like to take that risk to be honest, especially with the cuts that Universities are facing this year. Birmingham would definitely be my firm (they will offer AAB or ABB if they do give me an offer). Then Sussex and UEA are literally joint second favourite, I would honestly struggle choosing between them if they offered the same grades. However, Sussex's offer is AAB and UEA's will be BBB. I may not have originally intended on studying Philosophy, but the degree is split 50:50 (I don't understand how you got only 33% being History...) and I'm allowed to put more of an emphasis on History if I want to in my second and third years. Plus, Philosophy does sound very interesting and is apparently very beneficial for Journalism. I also have the opportunity of going abroad for a semester, which is also something I would like to do. Plus, if I really don't like Philosophy, I'm sure I'd be allowed to change to straight History if I'm performing well in my History modules!
moomin_love
I don't think that I would like to take that risk to be honest, especially with the cuts that Universities are facing this year. Birmingham would definitely be my firm (they will offer AAB or ABB if they do give me an offer). Then Sussex and UEA are literally joint second favourite, I would honestly struggle choosing between them if they offered the same grades. However, Sussex's offer is AAB and UEA's will be BBB. I may not have originally intended on studying Philosophy, but the degree is split 50:50 (I don't understand how you got only 33% being History...) and I'm allowed to put more of an emphasis on History if I want to in my second and third years. Plus, Philosophy does sound very interesting and is apparently very beneficial for Journalism. I also have the opportunity of going abroad for a semester, which is also something I would like to do. Plus, if I really don't like Philosophy, I'm sure I'd be allowed to change to straight History if I'm performing well in my History modules!


If it is with history, which is what you've written it means its weighted 2:1 in favour of history. If it were 50/50 it'd be philosophy and history, whereas given you've written philosophy with history this means the emphasis is on philosophy. With regards to changing to straight history if you didn't like it, I would check this out with them - if you're doing a "with" degree it is highly unlikely you'll be able to swap because you won't have done enough modules in the relevant subjects as your degree is weighted towards philosophy. Similarly, even with joint honours it can be difficult to change to single honours as you'll only have done half of the course content the single honours people will have covered.

It sounds like you've got a plan sorted out which is good, but I would encourage you to properly look into the courses before making decisions as otherwise you might find you can't do something you want in the future :smile:
Reply 10
oxymoronic
If it is with history, which is what you've written it means its weighted 2:1 in favour of history. If it were 50/50 it'd be philosophy and history, whereas given you've written philosophy with history this means the emphasis is on philosophy. With regards to changing to straight history if you didn't like it, I would check this out with them - if you're doing a "with" degree it is highly unlikely you'll be able to swap because you won't have done enough modules in the relevant subjects as your degree is weighted towards philosophy. Similarly, even with joint honours it can be difficult to change to single honours as you'll only have done half of the course content the single honours people will have covered.

It sounds like you've got a plan sorted out which is good, but I would encourage you to properly look into the courses before making decisions as otherwise you might find you can't do something you want in the future :smile:


Ok thanks. I didn't know the wording of the degree mattered. They changed it this year to be Philosophy and History, which is 50:50, but hopefully I'll be able to weight it more towards History (unless I find I really love Philosophy when I get to Uni)! lol. Well, I've been told that having a Philosophy and History degree is good to go into Journalism, so I'm happy with doing that course, plus I love learning about new things so I'll probably be happy with Philosophy. I'm just really hoping that Birmingham accept me and give me an ABB offer because I should be able to get those grades and it's for the subject that I REALLY want to do: History and Russian Studies :love:

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