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Original post by iRobot_Mk3
That's merely your own opinion. Brininging comparisons to Hitler is also quite pathetic. At the end of the day, if you don't value your culture and religion, so be it. if you are prepared to see it die, then please do not consider yourself Asian/Muslim/Hindu/Sikh or whatever because you are seeing to it that those traditions die out. if you made an effort to make your partner follow your ways, fair enough. if you don't, then you are contributing to the suicide of your community.


Ok i appreciate what you're saying and apologies for that Hitler reference, that was a bit ott/pathetic of me.

But i just feel passionately that free will is the greatest thing anyone can ever have and should never come second to anything else.

For example, if someone came into your house right now and forced you to renounce your faith and made you, against your will, worship something you'd never identify with (lets say Scientology) and forced you adhere to the cultural traditions of eskimos simply because there is a dying scientology and eskimo community in the UK, is that justified?

Or do you think people, whatever their ethnic or religious background, should be entitled to believe whatever they choose and adhere to whatever cultural traditions they wish free of fear of intimidation or violence.

Personally I prefer the latter and so for me individual freedom will always dominate over cultural or religious preservation.

Agree with me if you will but if you dont then lets just agree to disagree :smile:
Original post by catty khan
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Original post by Indo-Chinese Food
Take a look at any broad st bar you will meet plenty of pakistani girls grinding it on the dance floor with black guys thats a fact i can see with my own eyes- 2nd generaion girls in thiis country especially birmingham are far less innocent than you think
Thats also why birmingham has a big problem with honour killings and beatings within the paksitani community - girls parents uncles and brothers have been arressted loads of times as reported in local papers for going out with black men.


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Original post by Anonymous
I'm brown, boyfriend's white... And it's amazing :love:

I was brought up Muslim, but not too strict... We get the occasional stare or remark if we're somewhere around brick lane or something though, and it's not nice, especially cos they know I can fully well understand what they're saying about me... But whatever, things are pretty damn good between us so it's worth hearing crap for :h:


What you gonna do if marriage comes up???:s-smilie:
Original post by Kohl
Ok :tongue:

Let's leave the argument there then. But I win :biggrin:

Not to be nosy or anything, but are you an Indian Muslim?


¬¬ no you didnt win :tongue:

I'm actually a Bengali Muslim, i just don't like the whole cultural aspects and traditional view points of asians...its wrong when it goes against their own faith :s-smilie:
Original post by 11thElement
I would love to date an Indian/Pakistani woman. I've always thought they're so damn sexy. I never had the guts to approach them though in case they find interracial mixing disgusting. Besides Indian/Pakistani men might hate me for it anyway, so I just avoid taking the risk.

Indian girls are easier since they tend to be less religious. Dating a pakistani or Bengali girl - unless she is totally irreligious - would be a bad idea for you my friend.
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Original post by merryhappy
I mean why are you 'thankful' that is the case? Would an ideal world according to you would consist of culturally and religious homogenous couples?




No, others can do as they wish, but i believe that Hindus should ideally marry fellow Hindus.
Reply 107
Original post by iRobot_Mk3
cultural preservation is far more important. Intercultural marriages rarely work out btw.

There will come a time when a person will realise that preserving their heritage, religion and culture are the most important things in life. All the fun someone is having in life will pale in comparion to the realisation they will soon have that their religion/culture is dying.

I've no objection to interracial marriages, but there needs to be a degree of cultural/religious uniformity for them to succeed. Often that means adopting the ways of one particular partner. Then, whose culture will the children follow?


well said !
Original post by Mr Smurf
Well plenty of Indian girls like white guys so it does happen. One couple that doesn't happen is Oriental guys with white girls. It's saddening because I am an Oriental that really likes white girls. :sad:


I remember my Chinese friend burst out laughing when I told her that I liked Oriental guys :biggrin:
Reply 109
Original post by Midnight-Sky-Blue
Why must children follow a particular culture? Yes, it could be seen as sad that 'cultures' are dying out but it's going to happen one day as the world mixes more and more. This is why we have museums. Animals end up becoming extinct because the world evolves without them, but it's not the end of the world. We move on and welcome the changes.
Either way, the children may not even want to embrace the 'culture' of their parents - why should they?

And the reason that intercultural marriages rarely work out is generally because of other circumstances and if it's about cultural differences, then that's just sad. If a marriage fails because the two people cannot grow to appreciate the merging of their cultures, then they shouldn't be married at all. Those marriages where the two people embrace each other as a whole and treat the marriage as being no different to a same-cultured marriage, end up working just as much as those. Granted, there are other circumstances which come into play, like families who cannot accept the intercultural marriage, but the sooner that racism dies away, the sooner intercultural marriages will last more.

I'm Indian and I have a white boyfriend, but it doesn't bother us in the slightest. There are some aspects to my culture which are important to me and he respects that, and I respect aspects of his culture which he cares about too. What's brilliant is that we merge those best bits and form new cultural ideas - which is what should happen. We shouldn't seek to preserve what we have only...we should let it grow and change, just like the world is changing. If you want it to be kept the same, then wake up and welcome to the twenty-first century.


Really and what forms of indian culture do you feel your other half will "embrace" ?
Original post by SWdon
Really and what forms of indian culture do you feel your other half will "embrace" ?

I don't force him to embrace any parts of the Indian culture because I feel choosing to follow traditions is a personal choice by myself, but he does try to play a part in things which I enjoy and cause him no problems to join in with, such as Diwali, where he made sure he put effort in to take part in it in the past. For him, he is takes part in certain celebrations, such as for the Winter Equinox, which I made sure I helped him celebrate.
Nevertheless, I would not be offended if he didn't take part in certain beliefs which I have, because we are two different people. Some people consider religion to be part of one's culture and an example of something which I do for religious reasons is not to eat beef and though I don't mind him doing so if he feels comfortable with eating it, he embraces the fact that he knows that if I cooked for him, I would never cook anything containing beef and he would never cook anything containing beef in a meal which we would share. It's all about compromise. I don't think culture is that big of a deal, tbh.
Original post by 11thElement
I would love to date an Indian/Pakistani woman. I've always thought they're so damn sexy. I never had the guts to approach them though in case they find interracial mixing disgusting. Besides Indian/Pakistani men might hate me for it anyway, so I just avoid taking the risk.


Pakistani girls will be happy to date white guys - if you are to marry them you would probably need to convert if their family is strict muslim. Someone told me once that girls are necouraged to hook up with 'outsiders' in order to convert non muslims into the faith.
But actually Pakistani girls in the uk are more likely to marry their cousin than a white guy - it is quite a mjor health issue in this country in terms of children in the pakistani community having various defects registered far more frequently than any other ethnicity
Original post by Iqbal007
What you gonna do if marriage comes up???:s-smilie:


They never think that far ahead :wink:
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Original post by No Man
It happens more often with Indian girls, since they're less likely to be Islamic.


Well not really a good friend of mine was with an Indian girl for a couple of years. She was a high cast hindu and so beautiful. The really did love each other and the family did know they were together and they did turn a blind eye to their relationship but if they had decided to move in together or marry her family would have completely cut her off, she'd have been dead to them. In the end the pressure that put on the relationship caused them to split up as she couldn't face giving up her family and he had to carry such a massive burden of responsibility for her because she would have given up her family and community for him.

They were genuinely in love and it was sad when they split up.

How likely or successful interracial relationships are will really depend on the people involved and their families but it is fraught with issues and difficulties.

I dated a Muslim guy for a while he was nice and we had a real spark but his mother acted like I was the devil's whore and put a lot of pressure on him to stop seeing me.
I'm going to find me a nice Latina some day, marry her, and have a load of south american babies. One of the reasons why I'm learning spanish atm :smile:
Reply 115
Original post by Mr_Platini
I'm going to find me a nice Latina some day, marry her, and have a load of south american babies. One of the reasons why I'm learning spanish atm :smile:


Well I guess with latina girls you don't have the cultural barrier...... Other than learning Spanish/Portuguese.
Reply 116
Yeah it does happen but it depends where you live. It happens a lot where I am.
Original post by I-Am-A-Tripod
Pakistani girls will be happy to date white guys - if you are to marry them you would probably need to convert if their family is strict muslim. Someone told me once that girls are necouraged to hook up with 'outsiders' in order to convert non muslims into the faith.
But actually Pakistani girls in the uk are more likely to marry their cousin than a white guy - it is quite a mjor health issue in this country in terms of children in the pakistani community having various defects registered far more frequently than any other ethnicity



I woudn't mind converting to Islam and marrying them. Indian and Pakistani women are gorgeous. These English girls are fat.
Original post by Indo-Chinese Food
Take a look at any broad st bar you will meet plenty of pakistani girls grinding it on the dance floor with black guys thats a fact i can see with my own eyes- 2nd generaion girls in thiis country especially birmingham are far less innocent than you think
Thats also why birmingham has a big problem with honour killings and beatings within the paksitani community - girls parents uncles and brothers have been arressted loads of times as reported in local papers for going out with black men.


OP - Please don’t link Pakistanis with Indians as we are distinct from one another in various aspects especially culturally and socially.

I find it amusing how you along with other Indians in this thread totally dismiss the question about Indians girls and decide to spew your malarkey about Pakistani girls. Indians are obsessed about Pakistanis as you have shown and a great deal sadly worship us, just the other day I was informing an Indian taxi driver about the vast differences that exist between the two countries and it was sad to see him getting all angry and jumpy about my comments.

Should a Pakistani girl be out clubbing then to me it doesn’t matter who she is ‘grinding’ with whether that be black or white person. Thankfully for us this doesn’t happen as you like to suggest as I’m not devoid of the reality of my community as only a handful still go clubbing and those who do go to out head to places mainly like shisha lounges or Cafés around Sparkhill/Mosley/Small Heath area rather than Broad St.

It’s hilarious that you only refer to Black guys as it is supposed to offend me but isn’t nothing surprising as Indians are extremely prejudiced to black folks while at same time worshipping white folks which is oddly amusing as a great deal of your own folk are extremely dark and in some fair amount of cases even darker than blacks themselves. Some of my closest mates whom I grew up with are black and countless times I’ve been told Pakistani girls are the ‘hardest to date’ and how they are strict and only stick with men from their own nationality. Many white mates whom raise up the topic of inter-racial dating have echoed their sentiments saying Pakistani girls are off-limits and praise them by saying they are extremely modest and polite. Pakistanis in B’ham have a reputation in B’ham for being a close knit community.

Pakistanis rarely ever date/marry outside their community but the same can’t be said about Indians girls especially the younger generation who are desperate for any man regardless of race and are known to put out easily. It’s commonly known Indian girls are easy and loose, I myself have been approached countless of times by Indian girls and I’m not the type who flirts or gives of the wrong messages. There are many distasteful phrases used to describe how easy they are and even Indian schoolmates have admitted this to me.

If your black/white and you’re having problems dating an Indian girl then there seriously is something wrong with yourself. I’m not going to say much more but I ask whites/blacks to take their chance with Indians and you’ll be surprised how many of them will not only date you but consider a long-term relationship even if it means going against their parents back
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Original post by No Man
Well I guess with latina girls you don't have the cultural barrier...... Other than learning Spanish/Portuguese.


Yeah. Quarter latino myself so that's one of the reasons I'm actually down here atm improving my spanish!

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