Celtic or Rangers for an Englishman?

I have to say, I'm finding some of what you guys say to be astonishing. There is a severe lack of passion in English football, from the very bottom right to the top. English football is quite simply a very successful business, it's incredibly well financed, well run and well supported by its vast and well populated nation. Give Rangers or Celtic the same opportunities, financially, then I could only imagine the impact they'd have on European football. I'd imagine for example that there fans would not except have a 'good run' in the champions league, in fact they'd expect them to win the champions league, year in year out. Two massively supported clubs with the budgets and competition of the EPL, my god it would be scary. You only have to go back to the 80's, when at least 7 of England's national starting 11 played for Rangers. Why did these players choose to play in Scotland?. Why did they choose to play for rangers?. And what was there opinion of playing for rangers?. Have a look for yourself, I think you'd be surprised. Now the gap is huge between north and south of the border, but only financially, the passion for football is still at home north of the border. I think personally we could learn a lot from them, problem is were so scared to stop this financial rollacoaster that were on.

It's great to see Rangers get promoted this week, because - whether they like it or not - there is no point in one Old Firm club without the other. Without that rivalry, the SPFL is utterly redundant.

It's great to see Rangers get promoted this week, because - whether they like it or not - there is no point in one Old Firm club without the other. Without that rivalry, the SPFL is utterly redundant.

NTipper99 - even more amazing than that - they didn't only go into administration, Rangers FC were liquidated - like Woolworths, the club established in 1872 has ceased to be.

A brand new company (Sevco 5088) was set up in 2012 to purchase the now deceased Rangers FC's assets (primarily Ibrox plus traing ground). Sevco 5088 were then gazzumped by another new company - Sevco Scotland Limited also established in 2012 - and current ownership of the assets of the now defunct Rangers FC are being disputed in the courts by both of these new companies - a shameful and tawdry business you'll agree.

Under employment law, some former employees of Rangers FC TUPE'd over to the new owners of Ibrox. Others, like Gary Naismish, chose not to do so, and were therefore completely free to take up employment elsewhere - Everton in his case.

Sevco Scotland Limited (est 2012) then came up with the wizard wheeze of renaming itself as Rangers International Limited, and established a fully owned subsidiary that they registered as The Rangers FC - all to fool the willingly foolish, or anyone who wasn't paying attention, and for other more nefarious financial reasons.

It was The Rangers FC (est 2012) that was allowed to enter the Scottish league system for the very first time - and ahead of much longer-established clubs - in the 2012-13 season. And they have done well for a new club - climbing through the four leagues in only five years.

In the meantime, our old friends Rangers FC - est 1872 and sadly no more - had to suffer the final ignomony by itself being renamed as Rangers 2012 - the year of its death. This posthumous renaming was done again to fool the willingly foolish.

Just wanted you to know who you were actually choosing to support.

Toodle-pip.

Im a Man Utd fan and despise Celtic one reason bein that they sing YNWA with the scousers but they are just genuinely scum Rangers all the way for me.

No they're not. When those idiots sacked Manchester like the Vandal horde they were all singing God Save the Queen, not Flower Of Scotland; flying the Union Flag, not the Saltire. Did these morons not realise that God Save The Queen doesn't work as well as a provocation in the country where it is the locals' national anthem as it does at an Old Firm game?