Having sex with someone who is drunk

People would most definitely tell your Gran to be remember to leave the window closed as it reduces the risk of burglary.
People make mistakes, but if you're drunk and jump into a car and kill a 5 year old because of it, you have to take responsibility.
If you're drunk and jump onto a dick, again you have to take responsibility.
Also, most people who mention the binge drinking do so because they don't like anything about it, whether it's sex, violence, illnesses. etc that stem from it. Just because a lot of people do binge drink, it doesn't mean people can't think it's stupid.
People want to point out that it is good to minimise risk of being a victim or culprit of a crime. People should be able to do this without the cries of "victim blaming"

Oh, so that makes the burglary OK?
Way to make a weird analogy that makes no sense...having sex with a bloke when you are drunk is the same as killing a 5 year old?
Of you should minimise the risk, but that doesn't make it your fault if someone takes advantage - and I wasn't taking about someone being drunk and 'jumping on dick', I'm talking about a girl being absolutely wasted to the point that consent is impossible, and the guy rapes her. What I'm saying is that she should not feel guilty, because although although it was stupid to get to that point, it is very easy to, and it is the bloke who has commited the crime, not her! I'm not against safety information in any way, everyone should know how to be safe and should look out for the friends they have come out with. What I have a problem with is the people that scream 'she deserves it' or 'it's all her fault', or try to defend the rapist in these situations. Sure it's a bit of a grey area at times, but if the girl is too drunk to coordinate herself properly, speak properly, walk properly, and you are sober or nearly sober, it is taking advantage, and YOU not the victim is in the wrong.

1.I never said that, but you are more than welcome to show me where I did.
2. I don't think anyone is arguing this, what people are arguing about is how quickly people jump to a conclusion of rape instead of the simplicity of someone doing something (someone) that they wouldn't do sober and when someone questions it they are confronted by angry replies of "victim blaming, misogyny and many other things."

3. I think people in general don't take enough responsibility for getting themselves so pissed they can barely stand, that doesn't just mean because they could get raped but attacked, their body damaged, mugged etc. I think people that regularly and knowingly get themselves into that state need to stop.

It's so tiring how some people always assume "taking precautions" = Blaming the victim or making the crime less of a crime.
I don't know whether they are stupid or just can't read.

No, I'm sorry (actually, I'm not), but you're simply not right. Quite a few people in this thread have said that it's the woman's own fault for getting so drunk in the first place.

Oh, and if the defendant reasonably believed the woman to have consented, it's not rape. So what you said about "there are rapes and there are rapes" is utter crap. The difference is nothing like manslaughter and murder.

You know, if people who've been hit by cars hadn't left their houses, it wouldn't have happened.

Woman at party gets drunk, gets with guy, goes upstairs, has sex, too drunk to remember in the morning, claims it was rape.

Woman walks home, attacked by masked man who drags her into a bush and rapes her.

Do you seriously think those two offences are equal? One is quite obviously more serious, and thankfully, is taken as such by our courts.

If you leave your door open and get burgled, its partially your fault. If you leave your laptop on your car seat, and it gets stolen, its partially your fault. If you get drunk and get with someone then have sex but can't remember, it's partially your fault.

Nearly all the female responses in this thread have been illogical and emotionally tainted. Please try not to be so dramatic.

Lol, I'm a disgusting human being? I treat my women with more equality and respect than most guys.

And since when did this become purely a man raping woman issue? This kind of scenario could go in any direction; be it man taking advantage of Man, women taking advantage of man etc. The fact that you've automatically focused this on the one subset says a lot about your own biased mindset.

I know. It is pretty much exclusive to rape/sexual assault you get this reaction though.
If I made a thread saying "I had my ipad stolen, I left it in on the drivers seat in my car with the window wound down and 8 hours later it was gone!" You know people will say "That was a pretty silly thing to do" and be in agreement. however no one is saying "well the guy who stole it isn't guilty because you made it so easy for him."

Everyone knows that, the problem is the line of being too drunk to consent is not clear at all...

I can understand its a tough subject and sometimes in the heat of the moment you could go over your limits. But just like with many things in life, one careless mistake/ lack of responsibility could be disastrous. We live in a world where there are all sorts of people so people need to be cautious. If you truly want to get drunk, make sure you have a trustworthy sober friend that will stay with you for the whole night etc.

Rule of thumb don't bang drunk people!

Do you want a medal?

Not really, a lot of sex has had alcohol involved, it is very common in our culture. Rule of thumb, drink sensibly.

Rule of thumb don't bang drunk people!

Define being drunk?
There was already a post in here that very rationally explained that you can't always know when someone is drunk.
P.S. Making your post in bold and with big letters does not make it more valid/important. Just makes you look silly.

This is such an inane and utterly useless comment that I don't even understand why you would even bother replying.